Boqortoyati Wiil-Waal

[Teeri]

No Wiilwaal was the cheif of the Bartire in 1854 that we know from Burton, so he lived till 1870's and he was killed by Raage Ugaas. And wiilwaal didn't rule any where near Zaylac, Zaylac during Wiilwaal time was ruled by Xaaji Sharmaarke Saalax Cali even some 40 years before Willwaal was even a cheif.

STFU Siciid, stop fabricating bullshyt like your idoor cousin X.playa claiming will waal was alive in the mid 1900s, when we know he was alive more than a century before that. everyone knows of will waal's legnedary and being the first to unite somalis under him to push the gallas back. since you idoors claim that the Sayed used to do abulution with alcohol before prayer ( sunhanallah) i have decided talking to you about a great somali hero is too much a disrespect to him as your just like the jews in fabricating stories against dead great men of old! so leave it at rest as your peoples hate is evident!

[ModerateMuslim]

I thought this Place was called Ogaden for all people who live in the ogaden region not The qabil one, Thats why they said dont post in the somali galbeed section post your stuff here. Ogaden maha qabil wa dhul siiday noo sheegeen dadka qaari

don't be a fool and fall for onlf/ogaden worshippers' lies/propagandas. onlf and and this whole ogadenia-thing are nothing but poorly disguised good ol somali tribalism, and sooner or later their sheer stupidity and extreme fanaticism will betray this (case in point: this emotional girl who goes by the nick 'teeri').

[Siciid85]

Teeri, but xkeyse gave a history reference from the book of richard burton regarding wiilwaal soo why are you getting all worked up? is there any other accurarate documented history of when wiilwaal lived aside from burtons book?

[Teeri]

I thought this Place was called Ogaden for all people who live in the ogaden region not The qabil one, Thats why they said dont post in the somali galbeed section post your stuff here. Ogaden maha qabil wa dhul siiday noo sheegeen dadka qaari

don't be a fool and fall for onlf/ogaden worshippers' lies/propagandas. onlf and and this whole ogadenia-thing are nothing but poorly disguised good ol somali tribalism, and sooner or later their sheer stupidity and extreme fanaticism will betray this (case in point: this emotional girl who goes by the nick 'teeri').

Alshabab ibn alkataab, wankusalamay too , i heared you and your gang are the only shatans walking with human form on earth! i would love to interview you and make a movie one day, we also want to know what it feels like to claim another mans tribe and attack them at the same time, we also want to know you satanic tactics in how you turned almost every white old man in his 50s into a peado?? you sick bastard, couldnt you have corrubted them in another way ibliis?? why the innocent children made to suffer? sharmoto, stop getting your knickers in a twist!!

[Siciid85]

Emperior, but most H.Y regard Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Xirsi Qani as the rightful suldaan and some regard Suldaan Cusmaaan Suldaan Ali madar as the right 1 laakinse legally speaking both have the right to call themselfs suldaan although Suldan Cusmaan Suldan Ali madar is regarded as the reer ainanshe suldaan rather then H.Y , besides the H.Y - Bari have their own sultnate aswell since Sultaan Ducaale Muuse(1890-1955) , Sultaan Cali Suldaan Ducaale (1920-1977), Sultaan Rashid Sultan Cali the present sultan (b.1955) the reason the H.Y - Bari made their own sultnate was because they didn't want to come under the influence and the control of the Xirsi Cismaan in central regions and Burco i know it seems complex Taarikh.

yeah all the sicid garxajis sultans in the east had their own sultans thats for sure But the firs Xirsi qani lineage came in the 1900s eventhough they can both claim Suldaan , but this would not happen if sultan cawad was not killed in Battle and suldaan dolaal Nuur The son of sultaan Nuur axmed amaan the pro dervish sultaan who was also killed in Battle. Labbada suldaan ma jiireen . Laakin way dhacday marka wa caadi.

That is what happens when the sub clan has too many sons and they all contest for the suldaaniimo do you know of the story of how suldan nuur amaan became a suldan apparently he won a contest against his two brothers Magaan - Reer Magan and Axmed - Reer Axmed and 18 other brothers i was reading the other day some history about it from a british author who was in british somaliland at that time i am currently searching for the full version of it.

[The_Emperior5]

Yeah the same thing happened to Qawdhan ducaales Grandfather Suldaan farax Suldaan Guleed marku dhintay , Any way sultaan nuur axmed amaan when he was sultan their was big beef in burco between H.Y. subclans Whats the title of the Book aan ku so baadhe eh.

[Siciid85]

Emperior, the book is called British Somaliland By Ralph Evelyn Drake-Brockman - 1912 - , here is some screen shots of the book and how the baha - diriiye weren't happy when Suldan Nuur Amaan won the contest.


British Somaliland By Ralph Evelyn Drake-Brockman

Sultan Nur won, and was proclaimed Sultan of the Habr Yunis tribe but this choice the baha - diriiye were not at all pleased.

[ModerateMuslim]

teeri,

abaayo, first-of-all, i'll allow your emotional outburst, taking it for granted as part of your womanly nature. second-of-all, after reading one of your posts in this thread, i take back for wholly linking you with the hypocrites. for it seems that you're not entirely lost:

we need more men like him who are willing to spill enemy kuffar blood to make sure his children and grandchildren enjoy the lands they live in peacfully and prosper economically, inshallah something Sheikh Ibrahim is in the mist of doing now!!

i applaud on this cause it shows signs of strong emaan. hatred for the kuffar, the first for condition of tawheed, which is a rare thing among the so-called muslims of today, and love for the most sincere of allah's slaves, the mujahideen (like sh ibraheem), which is even more rare.

but i warn you too - because, on the other hand, you also shows signs of shirk, in your extreme devotion and loyalty to your clan. straighten out this contradiction of yours - mixing of tawheed and shirk - because shirk and tawheed can never co-exist, as tawheed requires undivided belief.

[Queen_Arawello]

According to some historians WiilWaal's boqortoyo was the only real Somali boqortoyo that existed. The legendary King was well known for his bravery, poetic and fighting skills in the battle field, he drove The Last Of The Galla Kings From Jigjigga and his kingdom extended from Jigjigo to Saylac.

Walal No Disrespect, But No Bartire Has Ever Ruled Zaylac, Not Even Gobolka Awdal Itself,,

You Could Say Jigjiga But Not Zaylac

I read it somewhere he fought against colonist that wanted to control the port of Zeila

[koohi]

cidii riyoonaysa ha iska riyoto
saylac ku wada riyooda

but the fact is no somali man ruled saylac except the Samaroon kings.

[The_Emperior5]

^^ Sharmarke ali salah baashe and he was no gadabuur

[koohi]

^^^ who is sharmarke ?

[The_Emperior5]

^^^ who is sharmarke ?

The Former ruler of seylac some 200 years ago he is the one who ousted Sayid Maxmmad al bari the arab ruler of seylac at that time
Emir Sharmarke ali salah baashe

[Siciid85]

Emperior, not only Emir Sharmaarke Salah Baasha, his son also use to rule seylac Emir Maxamed Sharmaarke Salah Baasha it's the guy Richard burton describes in his book, he also describes Emir Sharmaarke Salah Baasha his father who was old at that time.

[ina aadan]

War saylac iyo barbara waxaa haystay turki oo u talinjiray e nin somali ah muuna u talin

e tarikh aan jirin ha nagu kor samaysanina