Purpose of many kids

[GacanSareeye]

Dabo,

naa spare is not substance, its extra. in arabic its closer to israaf than arzaaq

predestined to die of starvation

[HELWAA]

GacanSareeye


'and when you have too many kids where do you get the spare to gave to all your children'

like i said-- u r a gaalo. Allaah provide risiiq. Waa Caalaf. Every child born, their food and shelter is already predestined.(even if it is predestine to die of starvation)

I cant believe am saying this...but basra is right.

Gacan

The problem with many somali households is the father is never around...he is either chewing with his goats friends or killing his time in some maqaaxi.Ilaahy ninka ayuu masuuliyada saarey, hadu isagu hawshiisi gabay ma caruur ba hagaagi bey kula tahay.

[GacanSareeye]

I respectably disagree, owning largely to the fact that Somalis and their White neighbour do not share living standards and conditions and therefore do not enjoy the same access to opportunities. All other things being equal, perhaps if there was the same level playing-field and opportunity were open to all however as things currently stand, Somalis, by and large find themselves living in relatively deprived areas - where there is poor public services and lack of opportunities.

This is what is great about America Marc. life is not static. you can adjust and move up within a generation. When someone is new here he might start out at the bottom, but you have the ability to move as quickly as is never possible than in any other place in the world. imagine this simple scenerio. a farax goes to the university, he lives in the Riverside area of Minneapolis where the its crowded, and the houses are little. He goes to school of 10 years and becomes a doctor. He gets hired by a hospital, b/c of his income he buys a new home and establishes a new family. that guy has become a middle income earner within 10 years of his life, what about his children, do you think they will come back to Riverside or even see it, if he locates to a different states. do you think they will ever experience the same depravity you talk about.

culture differences are totally different, and i am not advocating for that to be the same. the somali household if religious will always pray while his neighbor will always party.

[GacanSareeye]

Helwaa, do you think a somali guy will go to a maqaaxi if his wife was making delicious food you cant blame the man when woman have more power and knowledge of what is taking place. why gave more children to a loser that has already abandoned the kids he already has, oh, its Qadar, and its calaf, and yes it is also maktuub.

[HELWAA]

[SultanOrder]

PO

Come lean on my bosom.

Why cuz I know ur mom is fat?

[Basra-]

The unmarried Helwa is very annoying, let the record show.



GacanSareeye

What do u have against cedar riverside? Let me remind u that the prominense of or value of the riverside neighborhood will soon increase as there is a novel about the apartment of ceder riverside novel that is out and written by a certain yasmeen.ITs called Nomad something, the novelist portray a picture of intolerable exaggeration, even accordin the expensive word---luxurious' to describe these modern day slum apartments. I beg your pardon, what is my purpose of protesting ,if i am dissing it myself. Pardon me yaaqee.

[Basra-]

PO

Your hoyo is even fatter and an athiest. akhaas.

[marcassmith]

This is what is great about America Marc. life is not static.

I agree, there are some processes at work here, not least in terms of social stratification. However, among Somalis, though these processes are active - it is mainly experienced by a limited few, if any. Although I cannot speak from an American perspective. Even if that was the case, those who achieve the American dream do not represent a significant number of the Somali community.

Consequently, you often see Somalis, prior to even moving up the social hierarchy both in terms of employment and educational opportunities, negotiating their place among Americans. Once a person because of war or displacement finds themselves in a new social setting, it often takes a while before that person not only learns about the social customs of their host country but finds the confidence to integrate themselves within work place or educational environment. Most likely, you find the person developing a hybridity of personalities, not merely accepting the dominant culture, but rather creating home from homes type of environment. In my opinion Somalis are currently at this stage. We are now finally making the push towards the transition of integrating ourselves within the host country's system

[HELWAA]

basra

[GeoDesic]

The crisis isnt' about the economics but about how to bring up kids with strong personality based on islamic and Somali culture. And that is very difficult objective given the environment. In somali culture, the greater the number of kids, the more opportunities the family had. That mindset doesn't work in the West. It is actually counter productive because of the extreme efforts required to raise kids with strong islamic personality and somali culture. So, for people planning to have lost of kids, they should move and leave the west at least temporarily to raise their kids in an Islamic environment then come back. That way, they give the kids a good chance of survival in a miserable world.

[Basra-]

'That way, they give the kids a good chance of survival in a miserable world'


Spoken like my favorite pesimist. How do u do sir?



Helwa

walaal i am at work, i cannot see anything other than my name with a small capital letter b.

[KeligiiJabhad]

Children are part of the beauty of life, and they're a gift and a blessing by Allah. As a result, I believe it's Ok to have more than 4 kids as long as the parent knows their responsibility towards their children.

[marcassmith]

Children are part of the beauty of life, and they're a gift and a blessing by Allah. As a result, I believe it's Ok to have more than 4 kids as long as the parent knows their responsibility towards their children.

Sums everything I have been trying to say all night!

[Basra-]

masugge u do realize these very' beauty' children grow up into ugly adults right? Hence your argument is ilogical.