Somalinimo: a system of morality

[udun]

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[senoritaa]

If one or some don't believe in Somnalinimo, what is the need to keep repeating that self hate? I think one is trying to implant that self hate in the rest of us. We should look at the loyalties of all of the people that are teaching us in that self haring trick.

Somalinimo is alive and kicking. If it is not alive, why are they having so many meetings in order to keep us down, to continue the mayhem on us, why the need to unleash us all of these mercenaries on our people and country?

Somalinimo == pure Somali self identity + Islam. If one is not Muslim, he/she is out of it.

Somalinimo exists but not on a political level, it exists on an individual level we help our fellow Somali, feel empathy with other Somalis. Political Somalinimo did exist and it was destroyed by one group in Somalia we all know who they are, there is no need to play the blame game and say other people are "having meetings" and plotting against Somalis. Somalis overcame colonialism and bigger barriers to unite in 1960 so if they really wanted to now they could its as simple as that.

[marcassmith]

If one or some don't believe in Somnalinimo, what is the need to keep repeating that self hate? I think one is trying to implant that self hate in the rest of us. We should look at the loyalties of all of the people that are teaching us in that self haring trick.

Somalinimo is alive and kicking. If it is not alive, why are they having so many meetings in order to keep us down, to continue the mayhem on us, why the need to unleash us all of these mercenaries on our people and country?

Somalinimo == pure Somali self identity + Islam. If one is not Muslim, he/she is out of it.

Somalinimo exists but not on a political level, it exists on an individual level we help our fellow Somali, feel empathy with other Somalis. Political Somalinimo did exist and it was destroyed by one group in Somalia we all know who they are, there is no need to play the blame game and say other people are "having meetings" and plotting against Somalis. Somalis overcame colonialism and bigger barriers to unite in 1960 so if they really wanted to now they could its as simple as that.

I couldnt agree more Senoritaa on the bit about somalinimo being derived from the individual level!

[Alluring]

If one or some don't believe in Somnalinimo, what is the need to keep repeating that self hate? I think one is trying to implant that self hate in the rest of us. We should look at the loyalties of all of the people that are teaching us in that self haring trick.

Somalinimo is alive and kicking. If it is not alive, why are they having so many meetings in order to keep us down, to continue the mayhem on us, why the need to unleash us all of these mercenaries on our people and country?

Somalinimo == pure Somali self identity + Islam. If one is not Muslim, he/she is out of it.

Somalinimo exists but not on a political level, it exists on an individual level we help our fellow Somali, feel empathy with other Somalis. Political Somalinimo did exist and it was destroyed by one group in Somalia we all know who they are, there is no need to play the blame game and say other people are "having meetings" and plotting against Somalis. Somalis overcame colonialism and bigger barriers to unite in 1960 so if they really wanted to now they could its as simple as that.

Somalinimo was destroyed by one group? That is the biggest lies known to Somali history. Somalia was destroyed by various factions, not only one group.

[udun]

Somalinimo is getting destroyed by those who are running away from it. Actually, their grand design was to run away from it from the beginning of their destruction. All Somali factions factions participated the mayhem we are in but those who are running away from it and ones denying to reconcile are the ones destroying it.

[marcassmith]

Somalinimo is getting destroyed by those who are running away from it. Actually, their grand design was to run away from it from the beginning of their destruction. All Somali factions factions participated the mayhem we are in but those who are running away from it and ones denying to reconcile are the ones destroying it.

Udun, I don't think Somalinimo is being destroyed, rather its an evolving process. This will not be the final stages of the forever evolving nature of somalinimo. Each generation adds something different but its continues to survive. Our generation’s sense of Somalinimo is not a representation of the definitive Somali traditions, norms and values. Even in the qurbo-joog you get new forms of Somalinimo developing. A hybrid form of Somalinimo that is the result of people migrating from their homes (Somali peninsula) to a new home (Diaspora).

Identity is a fluid concept and should not be categorised into two binary categories - good Somalinimo and bad Somalinimo and as some people have gone further by declaring the notional thought of Somalinimo dead since they are unable to capture its true essence because its manifestations are not contingent on state authority (Political somalinimo).

For me Somalinimo is a holistic system of norms, traditions and values which have been slowly developed. It’s not dependent on political authority and has no clear definition since every individual sense of Somalinimo varies. You could say it’s also like your own personal value system. Nonetheless, there are elements of Somalinimo that all individuals collectively share. These are: Somali ethnicity, Islam, culture, language and tribe (this is more specific depending on individual preference but must still be included in the overall framework of what constitutes Somalinimo).

[GENERAL_SNM]

Somalinimo is getting destroyed by those who are running away from it. Actually, their grand design was to run away from it from the beginning of their destruction. All Somali factions factions participated the mayhem we are in but those who are running away from it and ones denying to reconcile are the ones destroying it.

Factions my arse. Somalinimo was to begin with a dream which turned into a nightmare when certain groups decided to put their own needs ahead of everybody elses. Today that nightmare/dream is over and the reality is Somalinimo is none existent, its expired. You are never getting another free ride sxb, its time you learnt about honest money which comes from hardwork. We are running away from the likes of you who is still using Somalinimo for their own greedy interests.

Somalinimo is dead, today its nin wallo ba nafta, nabay iyo umada.

[Cirwaaq]

Somalilandnimo exists for you guys tho... but they want to repress it with every ounce in their bounce

Key difference of Paradigm:

- In somaliland children have been raised in the last 20years with the concept of somaliland as an independent country!

- In Somalia the children have ben raised with the concept of Somali republic which is being thorn apart by the isaaqs!

Imagine a debate between two groups from the two countries if everyone in the debate is 20 or below?

What will happen in the next 10years?, 20years? 30years?

The children of the south are being raised with a flawed concept that will undermine their value for their country, because they will always feel a part of it is missing. Where as the children of Somaliland do not have any emotional attachment to somalia or the flag or the former republic, their country is complete... This Void will continue to grow...

[marcassmith]

- In Somalia the children have ben raised with the concept of Somali republic which is being thorn apart by the isaaqs!

That is not something you would normally say Cirwaaq.

[grandpakhalif]

Somalidiids will never redefine Somalinimo

[Cirwaaq]

- In Somalia the children have ben raised with the concept of Somali republic which is being thorn apart by the isaaqs!

That is not something you would normally say Cirwaaq.

Sometimes we need to tell it like it is. This is not to say that what the children are being educated with is true, it just happens to be what is being injected into the majority.

In relaity somaliland has evolved above a 1 clan progative however that is not what is being projected by the media and the gossip channels. Perhabs i was unfair to the southern collective. There are parts of somalia that hold that view to represent fact.

Some times it is confusing when one says somalia and i can bet there isn't a shared view of what somalia is, the same way there is no shared view of somalinimo.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Somalidiids will never redefine Somalinimo

You need to shut your brain to save the planet.

[Nolol cusub]

2ndtoNone

There are many ways of looking back Somalia and what it means to us.

In my case I was lucky enough to remember my travels to Baladweyn, Kismaayo, Luuq, beled xaawo, marka, and biyooleey. I was Lucky enough to have seen the rich landscape and the beauty of Somalia and the best part of its people before the civil war. So when I see someone writing off his own people and country I have to wonder if the issues involved are personal in nature.

It makes a big difference on how you look back your past. I mean, was someone born and raised in peaceful somalia or someone had rough time in growing up baadiyo, refugee camp, and Ghetto life style? And of course, it is not ones fualt to have expererienced the worst part of Somalia. It is fate.