Forbes The World's Happiest Countries :#85- Somaliland

[Ganjaweed]

Marcussmith,

The fact will always remain as such, that only God has the power to give people brains. For you to imply that Somalis are not divided people and not controlled by outside forces is a complete yarn, and you know it. I have told you previously that SNM was created and given logical support by the Ethiopian government in 1981 (and other factions as well, before 1981, mostly with SSDF in 78). To you I ask; was it not Ethiopia that declared a state of emergency on the first of July in 1960, when they found out Somaliland entities were becoming the Republic of Somalia? Was it not the Ethiopians who fought alongside the British and the Italians to keep your people under colonization? And is it not the Ethiopians who your "free Somaliland" runs to every time when you need support? For you to also imply that unity is "bad" is like me implying that "eating breakfast is unbeneficial." It is comical at best. Countries and people, even families when united are able to achieve things unknown to man. Just state that you hate other clans, and want your own to have one, because that is more concrete than your ploy for helping the greater Somali population.


The difference between Ethiopians and Somalis is one thing love for country. Ethiopians even in the midst of war never once broke any of their treasured monuments. What do Mooryans do at the sight of it? Sell them to Arab countries, for profit.
Ethiopians would rather have nothing to eat, and be controlled by a regime for the rest of their lives instead of seeing their country torn into parts. That is a difference between an Ethiopian and a Somali. Simple, fact.

Please spare us. You are arguing that Somaliland wants to separate from Somalia simply because "we hate somalia". That is both naive and highly innaccurate. Somaliland wants the best for it's people, it wants to develop socially and economically, what would being tied to a dead weight (Somalia) do for any of us? It's clear that somalia doesn't care about it's people or it's future. What I find funny is, the people who destroyed this funny, illusive and intangible notion of "Somalinimo" (which itself only existed for a relatively short period) are the ones suddenly waving the blue flag and calling for unity. Unity won't solve your problems; hardwork, dedication, selflessness and power-sharing will. Somalis in somalia don't have any of those characteristics. That's why until the day of judgement your people will still be fighting. Somaliland isn't anyone's business, least of all yours. This metaphor has been used to death, but I'll use it again because you guys just don't seem to get it; The situation is like your house is burning and instead of putting out the flames and salvaging your belongings, you are preoccupied with your neighbnours home (which coincindently is perfectly fine). So spare us the bullcrap about somalinimo and big bad Ethiopia. You destroyed your country and you alone. Whether somalinimo exists or not we don't want anything to do with Somalia.

[Cirwaaq]

What Alluring is proposing is that the somali republic was far more important and should been allowed to countinue with it's genocide of the Northern Clans. She is of a school of thought that sympathizes with the old regime and fully accepts their acts as the acts of preserving the republic. Be it the mass murder and rape of Majeerteens or the Isaaqs or the total excavation of all northern assets and then the well documented attempt to errase all the cities of the norther clans. Alluring is proposing that the somalilanders had no right to trun to their nieghbours in their hour of need. Somalinimo and the existence of the republic in her view dictates the norther clans should have accepted their faith for the good of the republic.

- It was somali muslims commiting genocide!
- It was under the banner of qaran and kacaan they looted and raped!
- It was the republic that instead of protecting the lives and porperty of it's citizens that chose to erradicate them of the face of the earth.


The pain in those that defend the Republic stems from the frustration that The republic failed to carryout their planned extermination and tootla wipe out of the norther clans. Their entire love of the republic is based on these past goals and therefore the hatred they still hold is a front for their true intention.

They want a second apportunity to finish the extermination began by the republic against the norther clans!!!

Siyaad is dead so is the republic and you can't do anything about it. While the likes of you have your sights locked on those who have already sailed the remainder of the republic is fracturing into village states. In such a state you are either too ignorant or shortsighted to see the reality of your wish. Koonfur is decades behind either P.land or S.land a united and ressurected former republic only means the utter domination of all republic affairs from the north How could an intelligent person wish for such a thing?

You want to be an economic slave?

[Alluring]

I think we need a full fledged Somaliland debate, and from what you wrote I lost a few braincells. HAY YO, Somalilanders, if you have a good debater, and is able to understand history I am up for a debate, go make a thread. Because once and for all I want to destroy your foundation.

[Cirwaaq]

Destroy is the key word!

You have placed the existence of the former republic above the life and property of the northern clans!

I think you wish Siyaad barre had succeeded.

[Air Canada]

I am just wondering, what will Bill Maher say if he saw Alluring?

Calling her even category 5 dumb is an insult to all dumb people.

[Goljano Lion]

Anyone else look at the rest of the list? ENUFF' SAID.

My gut feeling says Odaygii Majeerteen wuu ku so furay, nayaa I have told so many times, stay out of politics otherwise my gloves are off

[Goljano Lion]

I think we need a full fledged Somaliland debate, and from what you wrote I lost a few braincells. HAY YO, Somalilanders, if you have a good debater, and is able to understand history I am up for a debate, go make a thread. Because once and for all I want to destroy your foundation.

I have known habartan Alluring God knows for how long kulahaa, we need a full fledge Somaliland debate. Of course you have a right to your own opinions and I have been telling you too for the last five years keep it to your self cos it wont matter
Habartan like Alluring and the rest of these Jebe rti homeless Snet crew are trying to convince you over and over, and over again that Somaliland doesn’t exist , my dear jebertis calaalcal wont help you and it wont do any good cos action speaks louder than words, honestly what could you do about it beside calaaling on Snet, these ppl think they are forces at work , I don’t get you at all, you want calaalcal and breath poison about Somaliland all the time
The likes of Granny Kambuli and Alluring should go and rest into Calaacal intensive care unit because their calaalcal toxic opinions garbage have no effect on Somaliland’s future

[udun]

^ Some are just capable to throw insults and all they resort to arfe insults when their points of view is challenged or when someone expresses a different point. Alluring asked for a debate and tyhe next thing that followed were insults. Idiots should I say.

I also think those who support the unity of the Somali Republic should go after the journalists and their host papers which are publishing this fake info. Since SL is not an independent state but a regional goverment in the Somali Republic, how on earth was it listed as one of the "happiest" countries? I think we should go after them and leave no stone unturned until we find out who is feeding this bogus information. We all know there are paid lobbyists in the west and it looks like they are just publishing bogus info to continue milking more donated money from that self hating entity that is called SL.

[Siciid85]

^ Some are just capable to throw insults and all they resort to arfe insults when their points of view is challenged or when someone expresses a different point. Alluring asked for a debate and tyhe next thing that followed were insults. Idiots should I say.

I also think those who support the unity of the Somali Republic should go after the journalists and their host papers which are publishing this fake info. Since SL is not an independent state but a regional goverment in the Somali Republic, how on earth was it listed as one of the "happiest" countries? I think we should go after them and leave no stone unturned until we find out who is feeding this bogus information. We all know there are paid lobbyists in the west and it looks like they are just publishing bogus info to continue milking more donated money from that self hating entity that is called SL.

Bitter.

[shiniile9]

Denmark- the happiest place on earth. . Wait, am i living a diffrent planet.

[udun]

^ Some are just capable to throw insults and all they resort to arfe insults when their points of view is challenged or when someone expresses a different point. Alluring asked for a debate and tyhe next thing that followed were insults. Idiots should I say.

I also think those who support the unity of the Somali Republic should go after the journalists and their host papers which are publishing this fake info. Since SL is not an independent state but a regional goverment in the Somali Republic, how on earth was it listed as one of the "happiest" countries? I think we should go after them and leave no stone unturned until we find out who is feeding this bogus information. We all know there are paid lobbyists in the west and it looks like they are just publishing bogus info to continue milking more donated money from that self hating entity that is called SL.

Bitter.

Nope. It means busting myth that is getting repeating in certain news orgs. Busting the myth that is!

[ToughGong]

^ Some are just capable to throw insults and all they resort to arfe insults when their points of view is challenged or when someone expresses a different point. Alluring asked for a debate and tyhe next thing that followed were insults. Idiots should I say.

I also think those who support the unity of the Somali Republic should go after the journalists and their host papers which are publishing this fake info. Since SL is not an independent state but a regional goverment in the Somali Republic, how on earth was it listed as one of the "happiest" countries? I think we should go after them and leave no stone unturned until we find out who is feeding this bogus information. We all know there are paid lobbyists in the west and it looks like they are just publishing bogus info to continue milking more donated money from that self hating entity that is called SL.

udun you've "---" the wrong word

[S_lander-boy]

Somaliland is Africa's best kept secret god willing inshallah I will retire their one day , Holland is fourth place another great country to live in I was born and bred their I love Holland and my neck of the woods Amsterdam Ik hou van Somaliland en Holland !

[marcassmith]

^ Some are just capable to throw insults and all they resort to arfe insults when their points of view is challenged or when someone expresses a different point. Alluring asked for a debate and tyhe next thing that followed were insults. Idiots should I say.

I also think those who support the unity of the Somali Republic should go after the journalists and their host papers which are publishing this fake info. Since SL is not an independent state but a regional goverment in the Somali Republic, how on earth was it listed as one of the "happiest" countries? I think we should go after them and leave no stone unturned until we find out who is feeding this bogus information. We all know there are paid lobbyists in the west and it looks like they are just publishing bogus info to continue milking more donated money from that self hating entity that is called SL.

Udun, I think you are utterly confusing regional government and an independent state - able to assert its own sovereignty. A regional government implies the existence of a federal structure. Somaliland is not part of the TFG nor a regional government since Somaliland has no connection with the TFG. Also - You can continue on your trail to leaving no stone unturned but the facts remain that the former Somalia is in a dire circumstance. Whereas Somaliland continues to build on its success each passing year. What you believe is bongs publishing is merely an objective and balanced account of the facts as currently represented on the ground.

[Goljano Lion]

udun will have a mentality break-down.

Udun, I understand your all for Somalinimo and A Somali State but I am still wondering what is your issue with Somaliland? You haven't explicitly said you have an issue with Somaliland, at least that is what I have been led to believe from these boards.

every man has the right to calaacal and the right to release his frustrations on Snet froum

Somaliland is flying up up to the sky