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Siciid85 wrote:udun, read the source Aliyyi Oromada posted wa if you can read english.


that they were able to take advantage of a smallpox epidemic among the Orma in 1865, attacking their former overlords."

Somalidu wa rageedi.Brap.

BlackVelvet wrote:Is it just a childish point scoring thing or can you actually be proud to claim that your ancestors used to be slave owners? If it's true then it's terrible and if it's not it is shocking that an adult black African can joke about such a thing. Marka why would you say it as if wax lagu faano ey tahay? Shameless, then you will say that Islam and Al Shabab are the key in another thread, yahuu


Forgot this is somalinet generals after all

i dont understand what you mean about " it i shocking that an adult black african " ? really, did you really just write that.

maybe in your small world you have been tought that Black african = slave(or history of slavery) well that is not true for every black african, infact its far from the truth, specially with Somalis.

you must think Europeans, Arabs, Hindis, etc were never slaves Lol some are still today, how silly, you remind me of the bimbo racist from "everybody hates cris" and even she is more accurate as she actually deals with a decendant of slaves.
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back to your main point, Somalis did have slaves, and yes they did enslave each other, and they did have rules for slaves aswell. a slave is a living breathing talking property, one can be proud of their ancestor for being wealthy which can be indicated by the fact they have numerous slaves, but being proud of your ancestors having slaves with an emphasis on "owning another human being" is like people in the prophets muhammeds (scw) being proud of their ancestors drinking alcohol. it is something that is probably Xaram but i am not sure.

what i do know is Islam took a strong stand against Slavery and actually dealt with it from different angles. directly it was encouraged to marry slaves, freeing slaves and taking care of slaves. indirectly, proverty was tackled so slavery would be less.

Look at this langaab siciid

he ignores what i posts and read the post of an Oromo

Focking cuqdadlow

if we were the overlords of Oromos then why are Oromos living in Ethiopia and not in Somalia??

we created Somalia all the way to Kenya. without us, Somalia would stop at Galkayo

Marehan had complex slave system and freed alot of slaves

read more
http://marehansade.blogspot.com/search?q=slaves

CoolPoisons wrote:Look at this langaab siciid

he ignores what i posts and read the post of an Oromo

Focking cuqdadlow

if we were the overlords of Oromos then why are Oromos living in Ethiopia and not in Somalia??

we created Somalia all the way to Kenya. without us, Somalia would stop at Galkayo

Marehan had complex slave system and freed alot of slaves

read more
http://marehansade.blogspot.com/search?q=slaves

dude that is something to be proud of, Marexan freed alot of slaves they get alot of Ajar, ilaahay dadkeen qeyr buu uugu badalayaa.

lol Whocares who enslaved who, there was a wider conflict between Oromo and Somali.The Oromo lost and are today concentrated in the Oromo and N.West kenya regions.Coolpoison theres no need to feed your ego sxb, you just followed Absame when you saw us chasing the Oromos.

Can we examine why through humanity history slavery was necessary? Or invented? What is the benefit of it? is it --Human selfishness that is biologically blue printed n them or it just says more about the slaves than their masters. Perhaps, it says more about the weakness of the slaves?

Slavery began with the invention of humanitarianism...

One tribe would raid another tribe and the typical Isse used to wipe out their targets. Some gadibgursi decided to spare their target tribe and instead of killing them all inherited the responsibilty of carring for the women and children of the tribe they defeated. Soon they realised that these extra civilians served as extra pair of hands when distributed among the victorious tribe...

Slavery is born.

In conclusion slavery was the eariliest seed of Humanitarianism. Man kind is still evolving Africans a little bit slower then the rest.

Evidence:
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The white race who are considered as the greatest race for humanitarianism is a case example, observe humanitarianism where ever there is poverty among the white race you will find modern form of slavery albanions, bulgarians and hungarians have a modern slavery(prostitution) evident as a form of economically sustaining their population and to accelerate their economic development. They also invented minimum wage

hanqadh wrote:lol Whocares who enslaved who, there was a wider conflict between Oromo and Somali.The Oromo lost and are today concentrated in the Oromo and N.West kenya regions.Coolpoison theres no need to feed your ego sxb, you just followed Absame when you saw us chasing the Oromos.

You chased us, we chased you, who cares. It's all nonsense. Nothing more than animals in the wild. It's not about that anymore. I would probably enjoy a Hassan Turki leadership more than you.

Aliyyi Oromada wrote:

hanqadh wrote:lol Whocares who enslaved who, there was a wider conflict between Oromo and Somali.The Oromo lost and are today concentrated in the Oromo and N.West kenya regions.Coolpoison theres no need to feed your ego sxb, you just followed Absame when you saw us chasing the Oromos.

You chased us, we chased you, who cares. It's all nonsense. Nothing more than animals in the wild. It's not about that anymore. I would probably enjoy a Hassan Turki leadership more than you.

Even from simple utilitarian point of view, Oromos should have accepted Islam earlier.
Instead of giving them tirriso (=sheeggato) status and helping them , they would have sold their protege
thus gaining more wealth and power.
Somalis should be grateful to the Waaqeefennaa religion which forbod slavery
and Oromos should kill every Qaallu (=waaqeefenna priest) for outlawing slavery

B.

Perfect_Order wrote: Exhibit B

Basra smh Must you always have your own category, can't fit in the with the rest of them?

Somalistar you can join her if there is room


BV this is what you started

PO Somalistar and Basra don't count but I see your point

snoop12 wrote:

BlackVelvet wrote:Is it just a childish point scoring thing or can you actually be proud to claim that your ancestors used to be slave owners? If it's true then it's terrible and if it's not it is shocking that an adult black African can joke about such a thing. Marka why would you say it as if wax lagu faano ey tahay? Shameless, then you will say that Islam and Al Shabab are the key in another thread, yahuu


Forgot this is somalinet generals after all

i dont understand what you mean about " it i shocking that an adult black african " ? really, did you really just write that.

maybe in your small world you have been tought that Black african = slave(or history of slavery) well that is not true for every black african, infact its far from the truth, specially with Somalis.

you must think Europeans, Arabs, Hindis, etc were never slaves Lol some are still today, how silly, you remind me of the bimbo racist from "everybody hates cris" and even she is more accurate as she actually deals with a decendant of slaves.
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.
back to your main point, Somalis did have slaves, and yes they did enslave each other, and they did have rules for slaves aswell. a slave is a living breathing talking property, one can be proud of their ancestor for being wealthy which can be indicated by the fact they have numerous slaves, but being proud of your ancestors having slaves with an emphasis on "owning another human being" is like people in the prophets muhammeds (scw) being proud of their ancestors drinking alcohol. it is something that is probably Xaram but i am not sure.

what i do know is Islam took a strong stand against Slavery and actually dealt with it from different angles. directly it was encouraged to marry slaves, freeing slaves and taking care of slaves. indirectly, proverty was tackled so slavery would be less.

Snoop do you have a problem with me?
If so you should deal with it because it is coming out all wrong dude. If you accept that Islam stood against slavery then there is no need for a Muslim person to be proud of such a thing. One should be embarrassed on behalf of ones ancestors, if pride is what it induces in you then clearly you do not understand your own point.

As for Africans we know our own history, so what are you talking about? This is not about Europeans or Arabs and their own history cuqdada iska qaad. If you don't know why a Black African should not see owning slaves as something to be proud of then there is really not much for me to say to you is there

SMH you probably think yourself on a different league since "Somalis were never slaves"

Perfect example of an apolegetic white

BlackVelvet wrote:Is it just a childish point scoring thing or can you actually be proud to claim that your ancestors used to be slave owners? If it's true then it's terrible and if it's not it is shocking that an adult black African can joke about such a thing. Marka why would you say it as if wax lagu faano ey tahay? Shameless, then you will say that Islam and Al Shabab are the key in another thread, yahuu


Forgot this is somalinet generals after all

Good observation. Waa waxa iga yaabiyay. Salaada intay ku jiraan un bay ilaah caabudaan, kuwooda ugu fiican, and the same somalis oo hadda tukaday yaa qabiil afka kula jira oo qof soomaaliyeed nasabadiisii wax u dhimaaya. Munaafaqnimada waa sinji soomaalida marka loo eego. Si kale oo lagu fahmi karo ma jirto cudurkooda. Munaafiqiin as they come. Qabiilkaa aad uga xoog badan iimaankooda. Waa ummad dhaciif ah. From Imam to their average, qof nadiif ka ah qabiil waa yar yahay.

Advo wrote:I doubt boyaaso can be considered slave? but if ur grandparent slaved someone than shame on them.

You can't be responsible for what your grandparents/ancestors did, it's between them and God.
better to slave someone than be slaved, it was a dog eat dog world back then.

The idea of owning another human as a slave is rather backward. I am surprised how it was once tolerated but now condemned.