Muslims disrespect the holy name of Ali (radhi Allahu anh)

[djibsomali]

Ali is not special and should not be elevated more than any ohter assaxabii

Lakiin Ali waa lagaa gardarnaa!!
The head of the sunny was against him and ploted against him.

The khawaarij killed him you know that?

lool that is what they telling us
however we know who was against him

[LobsterUnit]

jibouti somali, stop double nicking.

wallahi i was typing an insult and then said what is the use

just for your advise i am not a double poster and never been one!!

no point waa iska jaahil

The only Jahil is the one who is accusing the companions and the Muslim Ummah of disrespecting a companion. Shias rivile sAHABA, NOT ahlul Sunnah.

[RuralMan08]

4 or 5 out of thousands?

If you don't know, then say you don't know. Don't say false things for the sake of sounding good in an argument. That's the peak of jahl. Now answer my question;

Do you believe in the Imamah (divinely appointed successors of the Prophethood)?

I do not believe in such a thing. I think Ali (ra) was not given the status he deserves.

[RuralMan08]

The only Jahil is the one who is accusing the companions and the Muslim Ummah of disrespecting a companion. Shias rivile sAHABA, NOT ahlul Sunnah.

I never accused any Sahaba of such a thing. Maybe only in your mind. My argument is completely different, i love all Sahaba (RadhiAllahu anhum).

[LobsterUnit]

^^ Do you have the names/proof of the people who took Ali out of the hadith books and only reduced him to "four or five hadiths". Or is your argument based on hearsaY like, " i never heard, bla bla"?

[Paddington Bear]

^^ Do you have the names/proof of the people who took Ali out of the hadith books and only reduced him to "four or five hadiths". Or is your argument based on hearsaY like, " i never heard, bla bla"?

It is not even an argument (he refused my balloon suggestion).
It is a ruse to attract the irate Shababi fans into this thread. I am done here, I leave these two in your capable hands.

[RuralMan08]

It is not even an argument (he refused my balloon suggestion).
It is a ruse to attract the irate Shababi fans into this thread. I am done here, I leave these two in your capable hands.

Al shabab are doing a wonderful job in Somalia. If it wasnt for them most of Southern Somalia will become half bantu within the next century.

So praise Al Shabab for keeping your lineage pure

[ModerateMuslim]

This is the weirdest conspiracy theory I ever heard. Where do the Jews fit into it? There is no conspiracy theory without Jews you know.

Paddington did you know that Ali (radhiAllahu anhu) didnt recognise Abu Bakr's khalifa for over 6 months?

Anybody here believe that Ali (ra) should have been the first Khalifah?

what are you - a shia? why are you spreading shia lies? especially the part about ali (ra) denying abu bakr's legitimacy for over 6months? this is nothing but a shia lie - something which they're even better at than the jews. ali (ra) never withhold his bayah from abu bakr (ra) - to claim otherwise is a lie.

and abu bakr (ra) was the right person to lead the muslims after the death of the prophet (saw) - and the only one capable of it. as unimaginably great as ali (ra) was - abu bakr as-saddiq (ra) was that much greater and quintessential. just compare the decisive leadership provided by the one whom allah swt has made known that he's pleased with - abu bakr (ra) - after the death of the rasul (saw) with the khalifa of ali (ra). the leadership and decisions of abu abakr (ra) when everything was in the balance are the stuffs leegnds are made of. so even someone as blessed as ali (ra) can't be compared to abu abakr (ra). in fact, abu abakr is greater than all of the rest of the sahaba (ra) put together. and this the aqeeda of the muslims.


anyways, a muslim is the one who proclaims - by intentions, actions and words - the oneness of allah. this is what makes and defines a muslim - not the family of the prophet (saw)

[LobsterUnit]

^^ Do you have the names/proof of the people who took Ali out of the hadith books and only reduced him to "four or five hadiths". Or is your argument based on hearsaY like, " i never heard, bla bla"?

It is not even an argument (he refused my balloon suggestion).
It is a ruse to attract the irate Shababi fans into this thread. I am done here, I leave these two in your capable hands.

this one even woke up somalistar.

[Paddington Bear]

[RuralMan08]

what are you - a shia? why are you spreading shia lies? especially the part about ali (ra) denying abu bakr's legitimacy for over 6months? this is nothing but a shia lie - something which they're even better at than the jews. ali (ra) never withhold his bayah from abu bakr (ra) - to claim otherwise is a lie.

and abu bakr (ra) was the right person to lead the muslims after the death of the prophet (saw) - and the only one capable of it. as unimaginably great as ali (ra) was - abu bakr as-saddiq (ra) was that much greater and quintessential. just compare the decisive leadership provided by the one whom allah swt has made known that he's pleased with - abu bakr (ra) - after the death of the rasul (saw) with the khalifa of ali (ra). the leadership and decisions of abu abakr (ra) when everything was in the balance are the stuffs leegnds are made of. so even someone as blessed as ali (ra) can't be compared to abu abakr (ra). in fact, abu abakr is greater than all of the rest of the sahaba (ra) put together. and this the aqeeda of the muslims.


anyways, a muslim is the one who proclaims - by intentions, actions and words - the oneness of allah. this is what makes and defines a muslim - not the family of the prophet (saw)

Who said its a Shia lie? It is recorded in history even acknoweldged amongst the main Sunni schools of thought. The companions differed about different things including different things including the khalifaship

[Aliyyi Oromada]

4 or 5 out of thousands?

If you don't know, then say you don't know. Don't say false things for the sake of sounding good in an argument. That's the peak of jahl. Now answer my question;

Do you believe in the Imamah (divinely appointed successors of the Prophethood)?

I do not believe in such a thing. I think Ali (ra) was not given the status he deserves.

Listen brother, you need to slow down and stop making judgments based on issues you are not knowledgeable about. You are getting way ahead of yourself. I advise you to learn about the mans life, how he spent his time, how many ahadeeth are narrated from him in the books of hadeeth and the matters they pertain to (I believe they are in the hundreds), as well as ahadeeth about him. I believe as I stated, given his responsibilities and his character, it makes sense why he didn't narrate as many ahadeeth as abu-hurayra or Aaisha ra. For example when he became Khalifa his inaugural speech was one sentence, then he came down from the pulpit and went back to work.

[Hyperactive]

i really enjoyed reading posts here specially PB's .lol

seems they doing some kind of thinking and putting pieces together, not bad at all.
but you'll discover soon or later when you grow up this is useless and waste of thinking and not effecting your own life.

been there and done it when i was 14,15, but luckly i had scholars around me to ask all the questions and resources in the liberary.

[Shirib]

Rural Man,

I agree with BV, I never heard of a hadith from Abu Bakr, Cumar, or Cuthman, so what are u going on about?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Imam Ali r.a and some of his supporters did believe that he had more right to the caliphate than abu bakr siddiq ra . However i love Ali r.a but on this i have to disagree with him becuase iam of the opinion that abu bakr siddiq ra umar ra and uthman ra were better yet after them muawiya ra had no right to rebel against amirul mumineen of that time . He was wrong while Ali ra was right. Muawiya's group invited ammaar ibn yasir to the fire while he invited them to jannah.