EEGA9 wrote:bareento wrote:I am working on possible links between habesha and somalis as both claim coming from arabia.
I claim that Somali r semites speaking kushitic language and as such founders of ethiopia who just lost their language.
I already came accross somali leaders of the 16TH CENTURY named Teodros
Masha allah Bareento is revolutionizing the history of the region.
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In the 16th century the Somalis were fighting under the Great leader Axmed Gurey as documented in Futuhul Habasha.Somalis are not related to the midget nation but many bareentos have been incorporated forcefully into the midget nation.
Bareento, my dear cousin. u oroma? ur thinking is at early stages of taking the wrong path. Yes, the midget habashis were originally Hymrites from Yemen who invaded eriteria and went to todays amhara and tigra regions and intermarried with blacks. The Amhar and the Tigra are somewhat like the Ughuz Turks of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan and azerbaijan, all turkic. the habishis are related since they are from the hymrites, they just split in too a few languages like the amhar, tigriniya and gurage etc. they are thus semetic sinc ethey have roots in yemen. we are kushtic, well atleast maternally. we are actually closer to the Afar and the Oroma. the hymrites were from yemen, but not qaatani arabs by ethnic origin. yemen, most people wrongly assume is homogenous with just ''arabs''... it boasts many ethnic groups with different langauges and even religions who are actually native to the land.
secondly: do u just assume because they are originally from yemen, they are straight away arabs?...... they are not. you have the mehri, the baathi and even the smaller numbered people now of the soqotra that are not ''arabs'' yet have lived sided by side with the original arabs for milleniums.
first we need to understand what an arab is.
there are three types of ''arab''.... 1) is the pure original arabs, the Qaatani. these are descendant of such poeple as mentioned in the Quran, Aad, thamud etc. they are officaly from hadramaut/oman, south eastern yemen. the people of prophets salah and Hud were punished in this area, except for the those that believd in them.
2) ''arabized '' arabs. progenies of prophet Ismail, when his father took him and Hajra to the valley of makkah ordered by god to leave them there, as the boy grew up, in makkah with his mother, some of the orginal arabs from hadramaut were passing by and were attracted to the area as they noticed birds circulating the area, so they assumed water must be there ( the water source was the zamzam in makkah) they settled there and ismail married two girls from the original arabs ( he was adviced to devorce the first one by his father ibrahim, a.s., when he told him to ''change the door knob'') even the prohet tells his asxaba that they were ''arabized'' arabs because their father ismail and thus ibrahim were origianlly from babylone since ibrahim was from iraq and ordered to migrate to the blessed land by god from the adolators. isaaq, father of jacob stayed in palastine and ismail was taking by the father to makkah. thus the prophet told his companions they were arabized arabs. ( infact, Omar IBn Khatab asked the Persians to give them back Iraq as it belonged to their father Ibrahim, he was ordered by the prophet to retrieve iraq before the prophet died. when the persians refused, he was forced to invade and conquor them, he once remarked'' wish there was a wall of fire between us in iraq and the persians'') just a further prove.
the third arab is he who has lived amongs them for a while, speaks the language but his heritage is well known and thus usualy ethnically different. these included the dispised Al-akdham minority in yemen, who are thoight to be descendant from habashi soldiers who were defeated in the war of the elephants ( mentioned in surat ''the elephant''.the habashis who tried to destroy the ka'ba in the 6th century) these are ethiopians by origin and were enlsaved afterwards and to this day are despised. the zanjis in iraaq and saudi were slaves taken from ''zanj'' todays tanzania, zanzibar, mozambique, southern africa etc. ofcourse there are aslo the Barbers of the north african lands who are origonally barbers and have been speaking arabic since the islamic conquest. the egytian coptics, the kurdish, the Turkomen, the allavis, balluchistani persians ( persians took yemen from the habashis in the late 6th century and a few stayed after the prophet conqured yemen) and many other smaller minorities in the arab world are considered arabs, byutwhen u speak to them one on one, they ascert their origional heritage.
the word arab is thrown around like a dirty scarve, but when u scratch the surface, the real arabs are found in yemen hadramaut/oman/mahar. the arabized arabs in the majority of the middleast countries and the minorities labbled as ''arabs'' in several middleastern states couldntt care less about being an arab and are fighting for recognition of heritage.
Now, about us. Ogadena are off the bigger Darood tribe. they say they can count daroods lineage back to Mohamed Aqeel ibn abi talib. if this is right. Aqeel was the brother of ali ibn abi talib, thus a hashimite of Quraysh. this means quraysh being descendant of Adnan and thus ismail are not related to these midgaan Hymrite habashis, if ismail goes back to his father ibrahim and he was thus from Iraq, we are not the same stock as these habashis. and further more, when Darood came to somalia, he married a somali woman ( dumbira bint mohamed ibn Dir) we are infact ''somalized'' since our mother is somali. coincidently, the idoors say sheikh isaaq was from the lineage of ali ibn abi talib. doesnt that make us houses of two brothers???????. at the end of the day, everyone is related one way or another through adam. we just adopted the somali way of life, just the way ismails children adopted the arab way of life.
ps: dont try telling us to go back to ''our'' original place..... then that means virtually every nation has to go back to their own ancestorial lands... the english back to saxony in germany, the french back to the ancestorial home lands of the frankish people, the hungarians back to the lands of the Huns, the turkish back to the central asian steeppies, the indians back to the hindustan valley etc. we have shaped and defended somali lands for centuries, consider that our ticket to stay put.
u found a 16th century somali named Teadros?
. what was his favourite food? a raw blood drenching beef steak dinner???
, dude, i think we prefered traditional somali names such as khalaf, hirsi, gacanwayne, oooooosssdheere
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Don't worry about those with the Pseudo-Sheikh title, they are not authentic religious figures they are just Tigre subservient Sheikh wannabes & they would rather chill in comfort while their people are massacred and the Oromo land goes through excessive resources exploitation.
