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Shirib wrote:

Murax wrote:All of You are so focken retarded. Ethiopia soo wadan maaha? Soo lama aadi karo? Every US President goes to Mexico upon election and every Mexican President comes to the White House upon their election. Chinese Heads of States visit Japan to this day even though Japan brutally occupied that Country in the past. All of You dumb ass qaxootis here are posting from Holland, US, UK yet like to talk shyt Your asses can't cash. If You're gonna live in the West, eat their welfare, at least gain something intellectually.

You're retarted as hell. The American, Mexican, Chinese Presidents rule their own countries, he doesn't need anyone else. Can u say the same for the TFG? The answer is no, they get orders from other countries and have to report to them. They can't even exist without other countries. So cash that buddy

It doesn't matter whether He rules His Country or not bonehead. The bottom line is He is a Head of State (whether on paper or not) and International Protocol is that Heads of States of Neighbors visit each other. This is Why You'd see Maxamuud Karzai visit Azerbajan even though He doesn't rule Afghanistan, or Nuur Maliki visit Kuwait even though He didn't really rule Iraq. In this case even though, they may not be talking as two sovereign heads of state, it doesn't matter what they talk about, but this is simply How the International world works.

Murax wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:

Murax wrote:All of You are so focken retarded. Ethiopia soo wadan maaha? Soo lama aadi karo? Every US President goes to Mexico upon election and every Mexican President comes to the White House upon their election. Chinese Heads of States visit Japan to this day even though Japan brutally occupied that Country in the past. All of You dumb ass qaxootis here are posting from Holland, US, UK yet like to talk shyt Your asses can't cash. If You're gonna live in the West, eat their welfare, at least gain something intellectually.

Why were you resenting when the hutus and Dabayacos under the TFG were heading to Addis?

At least waxa dahda wuxu u tagey Addis inu Kahadhlo qadhiyadha Somali Galbeedh

This is the problem with You Cagdheers. You want to kala saar gaalo. If He visited Kenya, its 100% fine. If He visits Ethiopia its a problem. I never had a problem with a Somali head of State visiting Ethiopia, there is nothing in diinta that says You are committing Xaraam if You do that. Now principle wise I have always been against the entire concept of TFG period and it doesn't change with Farmaajo in office. I never open threads about TFG. What I was saying is there are 100's of valid complaints that can be made of His Gov, but this isn't one of them and quite retarded to be honest.

Dude if Shabaab was 100% Marexan you would definatly look for an excuse. The rationale is as long as its Ilkoyar defend him even if he is a devil.
This is not Somalinimo but Ilkoyarnimo.

actually he is not the head of state but the head of the government

khalid ali wrote:actually he is not the head of state but the head of the government

Khalid,


Do You agree with Me that gaalo is gaalo. Ama hate them all or treat them all the same way. Some idiots want to have calaaaqad with some and not others.

Murax wrote:

khalid ali wrote:actually he is not the head of state but the head of the government

Khalid,


Do You agree with Me that gaalo is gaalo. Ama hate them all or treat them all the same way. Some idiots want to have calaaaqad with some and not others.

Naah Gaalo is not Gaalo

If Gaalo is Gaalo MSB would not have waged the 1977 war and would be ass kissing Mengistu.

Murax wrote:It doesn't matter whether He rules His Country or not bonehead. The bottom line is He is a Head of State (whether on paper or not) and International Protocol is that Heads of States of Neighbors visit each other. This is Why You'd see Maxamuud Karzai visit Azerbajan even though He doesn't rule Afghanistan, or Nuur Maliki visit Kuwait even though He didn't really rule Iraq. In this case even though, they may not be talking as two sovereign heads of state, it doesn't matter what they talk about, but this is simply How the International world works.

It doesn't matter if that's how the IC works or not, the people have a right to be outraged. He went and visited a country that was massacring the Somali people in their capital not too long ago and still continues to stir troubles in Somalia. Unlike Karzai and Maliki, who visit friendly neighbors, Farmaajo has visited the arch enemy of Somalia. Forget being a free country or not, there would be outrage today if Obama decided to meet with the Taliban, and he unlike Farmaajo is a legitimate President. I fail to see your entire point of telling people off for being mad, in fact the better question would be why would they not be outraged.

The_Patriot wrote:

Murax wrote:

khalid ali wrote:actually he is not the head of state but the head of the government

Khalid,


Do You agree with Me that gaalo is gaalo. Ama hate them all or treat them all the same way. Some idiots want to have calaaaqad with some and not others.

Naah Gaalo is not Gaalo

If Gaalo is Gaalo MSB would not have waged the 1977 war and would be ass kissing Mengistu.

MSB destroyed Somalia by attacking Ethiopia. Biggest mistake he ever made.

MSB did not destroy somalia it was Marexan that destroyed Somalia when they overrun the entire govt and were embezzling funds of the govt.

Murax you were never pro TFG is it Farmajo that made you pro TFG?
You were Hiraale supporter who was to create his own bantustant in Jubaland.

If you guys actually Support Farmajo then actions speak lounder than words.

Let the Dhollow group fight in the name of TFG and let Ahlusunah Waljamaca be airlifted to Xamar.

Murax,

Huuno retarded ma nihine, waxbaa indhaha naloo saaray. Anigu aan iska hadlee, haddii dameer ay Somaaliyi doorato waxaan taaganahay ha la taageero, iskaba daa ninkan wax bartay eh. Mid kasta hala taageero ayaan qabaa, iyadoon la eegeyn qabiil. Waayo Xamar waa xudduntii dalka, haddii ay degto oo dawladdaas aan Xamar dhaafini ay guuleysato waa guul Somaali usoo wada hoyatey.

Hase yeeshee, masiibo ayaa kasocota dalka, inakstoo ay Somaaliyi tahay inay iyadu is eersato, haddana waxa walaaqaya ee aan marnaba dooneyn dawlad ka dhalata Somaaliya waa qolyahaa aynu deriska nahay...Sidaa daraadeed anigu koley qof baan ahoo waan ka naxaa markaan maqlo nin masuul ah ayaa aaday meeshaas..Unless ayna ahayn African Union Summit iwm...If that makes me dumb, so be it, I am a proud dumb old women

Dadkana ha isku qaadin, kuwan iyaga loogaba taliyo meeshaas ee raaliga ka ah ee haddana fitno darteed uga hadlaya arrinta TFG hanagu darin dee..Waa ku sidee

The_Patriot wrote:Murax you were never pro TFG is it Farmajo that made you pro TFG?
You were Hiraale supporter who was to create his own bantustant in Jubaland.

If you guys actually Support Farmajo then actions speak lounder than words.

Let the Dhollow group fight in the name of TFG and let Ahlusunah Waljamaca be airlifted to Xamar.

Listen You slow kid

I don't care about farmaajo
I don't care about TFG


I said it 1 million times. What I don't like is irrationalism in any form, and thats what I saw here plain and simple. Either be be a total isolationalist, or interact with the outside world.

LOL@Murax defending Farmaajo "soo Itoopiya wadan ma aha".

The problem with the relationship between Somalia and Ethiopia is not one which cane be described using examples from relations between existing states whom are independent to choose to visit and develop there own policy instruments towards a particular country.Ethiopia is a major participant in the Somali conflict, they have actively armed warring parties and continues to have no regard for the borders of Somalia.They have created a Political landscape where they have enormous influence over the affairs of Somalia whether through vassal states whom they actively bolster, warring sides and members of the TFG.The extent of this meddling in the affairs of Somalia have accumulated to the level where no politician or group in Somalia can survive without directly creating links with Addis ababa and pursuing there blessing.If your not on this side of the Political scale then your obviously an obstacle to Ethiopian Interests(Al-Shabab,ONLF,etc),Theres no denying these fundemental facts. Ethiopia is an obstacle to Somali peace so any Somali leader should be wary of there approaches.But sadly every Somali leader rushes to that old cushion seat where Meles entertains his subjects.

To be fair to Farmaajo he's in Addis for an Inter-Govermental meeting, so lets not rush to conclusions.Although it would be naive to expect him to shake of the Ethiopians

Murax wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:Murax you were never pro TFG is it Farmajo that made you pro TFG?
You were Hiraale supporter who was to create his own bantustant in Jubaland.

If you guys actually Support Farmajo then actions speak lounder than words.

Let the Dhollow group fight in the name of TFG and let Ahlusunah Waljamaca be airlifted to Xamar.

Listen You slow kid

I don't care about farmaajo
I don't care about TFG


I said it 1 million times. What I don't like is irrationalism in any form, and thats what I saw here plain and simple. Either be be a total isolationalist, or interact with the outside world.

dude you mean I should be a flip flopper like you?

Eega,

Thanks huuno for the clarification

The_Patriot wrote:MSB did not destroy somalia it was Marexan that destroyed Somalia when they overrun the entire govt and were embezzling funds of the govt.

Murax you were never pro TFG is it Farmajo that made you pro TFG?
You were Hiraale supporter who was to create his own bantustant in Jubaland.

If you guys actually Support Farmajo then actions speak lounder than words.

Let the Dhollow group fight in the name of TFG and let Ahlusunah Waljamaca be airlifted to Xamar.

Kani cudur gooni baa hayo......War heedhe daawo malagu wayey?


Murux,

These whole TFG shit is useless and everyone with a functioning head should know that.

Don't argue with these peasants.

One of my favorite quotes......

"Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".

kambuli wrote:Murax,

Huuno retarded ma nihine, waxbaa indhaha naloo saaray. Anigu aan iska hadlee, haddii dameer ay Somaaliyi doorato waxaan taaganahay ha la taageero, iskaba daa ninkan wax bartay eh. Mid kasta hala taageero ayaan qabaa, iyadoon la eegeyn qabiil. Waayo Xamar waa xudduntii dalka, haddii ay degto oo dawladdaas aan Xamar dhaafini ay guuleysato waa guul Somaali usoo wada hoyatey.

Hase yeeshee, masiibo ayaa kasocota dalka, inakstoo ay Somaaliyi tahay inay iyadu is eersato, haddana waxa walaaqaya ee aan marnaba dooneyn dawlad ka dhalata Somaaliya waa qolyahaa aynu deriska nahay...Sidaa daraadeed anigu koley qof baan ahoo waan ka naxaa markaan maqlo nin masuul ah ayaa aaday meeshaas..Unless ayna ahayn African Union Summit iwm...If that makes me dumb, so be it, I am a proud dumb old women

Dadkana ha isku qaadin, kuwan iyaga loogaba taliyo meeshaas ee raaliga ka ah ee haddana fitno darteed uga hadlaya arrinta TFG hanagu darin dee..Waa ku sidee

Adiga maka wadin Kambuli the Queen of Snet marka xaal qaado


Laakin zamanki aan joogno maanta iyo protocolki aduunka waxay qabta in madaxyaasha dawaladaha deriska isla ah inay is booqdan. Waa nadaam dawladeed aduunka dhan ka jiro. Dabcan in Amxaaro Soomali loo adeegsado ama in Ciidamo Itoobiyan wadanka la keeno waan ka soo horjeeda laakin qaabki aan u fikirno waa inay waafaqdo wixi maanta aduunka ka jiro. Wax basic diplomacy la yiraahdo baa maanta aduunka ka jiro, oo wadamaha deriska ah waa inay is xiriiriyaan. Xitaa Sucuudiga fiiri You will find madaxweynaha Iran dhalkaas booqanaayo even though they both hate each other to death.