Coeus come in

[Walaashiis]

This sums up Somaliland democracy : you are either with us or against us. You queezing the guy because he does not agree with you? so you have to disown him, only if you could have

Imagine if he were in Hargeysa? allow people to have their opinions . I remember back in 2003, Jaamacn Mohamed Qaalib was detained in haregeysa for his support for greater Somalia. Coeus is a Westren educated young man who sees things beyond the box. We should appreciate his existance God bless his father.

[union]

says the guy who said Allah laws are not made to rule the land

Twisting words again.But if you insist on bringing up Allah's laws, let us begin implementing them by stoning your khat chewing mother. Perhaps if khat chewing pregnant women are stoned, they'll stop producing brain dead bastards like your good self in the "republic" of somaliland.

I am for stoning those who commit zina islam tells us that again my mother does not chew leave my mother out of this did i diss your mother

Sharia law is ISLAMIC law the law of allmighty its superior to any other constitution in the world.

Well, you certainly do act like she consumed some illicit drugs. Even you're writing screams "I'm a crack baby".

Also, for a man of your age, you do act a bit childlike and immature. Surly a respectable, Islamic sharia following individual like yourself (who also doesn't chew) would not act in such a way? Is it apart of Islamic law and etiquette to constantly keep recycling clan baiting threads? Is it Islamic law to instigate fights, and provoke people? Or accuse people of things without having even a shred of proof (like accusing coeus) ? I can go on and on, but the main point is that it isn't Islamic law to act like a 3 year old bitch. Try growing up. Then you can lecture me about Islamic law, when you practice what you preach.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Drop his national Identity?
What Identity is that may I ask

While Somaliland may be an independent government in your rather wishful and unrealistic mind, according to the laws of the Somali nation and the international community, you are not. Therefore your identity if Somali, and not Somalilanders. Does that make sense now? You can deny it all you want, throw little fits and hurl insults at everybody who says otherwise, but at the end of the day you are Somali, until somaliland takes a seat at the UN. Which isn't going to happen, let's be quite honest.

I doesn't even make sense, I am somali regardless of my country. In Djibouti there are afars and somalis, so are these somalis citizens of somalia. The citizens of somalia and the ethnicity somali, should be differetiated. Do not confuse the two.
Also my nationality on paper is British, I have not and never had a somali passport so I was never a citizen. Insha'allah I will hold dual nationality with the Somaliland citizenship and even if somaliland never get's recognition, the fact still on the ground is that no government official from somalia can land in hargeisa and claim that it is somalia: 20years and counting

[Coeus]

I doesn't even make sense, I am somali regardless of my country. In Djibouti there are afars and somalis, so are these somalis citizens of somalia. The citizens of somalia and the ethnicity somali, should be differetiated. Do not confuse the two.
Also my nationality on paper is British, I have not and never had a somali passport so I was never a citizen. Insha'allah I will hold dual nationality with the Somaliland citizenship and even if somaliland never get's recognition, the fact still on the ground is that no government official from somalia can land in hargeisa and claim that it is somalia: 20years and counting

The people living in Djibouti are not called Somali on their passports. That is a recless comment you just posted. Only those living in Somalia have Somali passport. The Somalis in ogaden have Ethiopian passport. And those in Kenya have kenyan. If you dont want to be part of Somalia, then your nationality according to law, isnt Somali. Therefore you are rejecting the Somali nationality. Stop joking around. Somaliland wont become a country. You can keep the flag and the dream, but the goverment will become a federal goverment, under the REAL adminstration in Somalia.

[union]

Drop his national Identity?
What Identity is that may I ask

While Somaliland may be an independent government in your rather wishful and unrealistic mind, according to the laws of the Somali nation and the international community, you are not. Therefore your identity if Somali, and not Somalilanders. Does that make sense now? You can deny it all you want, throw little fits and hurl insults at everybody who says otherwise, but at the end of the day you are Somali, until somaliland takes a seat at the UN. Which isn't going to happen, let's be quite honest.

I doesn't even make sense, I am somali regardless of my country. In Djibouti there are afars and somalis, so are these somalis citizens of somalia. The citizens of somalia and the ethnicity somali, should be differetiated. Do not confuse the two.
Also my nationality on paper is British, I have not and never had a somali passport so I was never a citizen. Insha'allah I will hold dual nationality with the Somaliland citizenship and even if somaliland never get's recognition, the fact still on the ground is that no government official from somalia can land in hargeisa and claim that it is somalia: 20years and counting

There is no such thing as Somaliland citizenship. You might as well print out a paper from your computer and have it signed by a few iddors at the coffee shop, because that'll have about the same level of legitimacy. And you might feel terribly clever by saying dumb shit like "Somalia will never rule Hargesia", but as long as the rebels of SNM keep delaying the establishment of a national government, the longer Somalia as a whole (including the Northern part) will remain poor and dependent on Ethiopia/NGOs for everything. And as you clearly have nothing intelligent to say, I'll go ahead and terminate any further communication between the two of us in this thread.

[The_Emperior5]

Well, you certainly do act like she consumed some illicit drugs. Even you're writing screams "I'm a crack baby".

Also, for a man of your age, you do act a bit childlike and immature. Surly a respectable, Islamic sharia following individual like yourself (who also doesn't chew) would not act in such a way? Is it apart of Islamic law and etiquette to constantly keep recycling clan baiting threads? Is it Islamic law to instigate fights, and provoke people? Or accuse people of things without having even a shred of proof (like accusing coeus) ? I can go on and on, but the main point is that it isn't Islamic law to act like a 3 year old bitch. Try growing up. Then you can lecture me about Islamic law, when you practice what you preach.

not every muslim is perfect and muslims are far form perfect but islam and sharia law is perfect Islam is a way of life its not just a religion u practise on sunday just like christians do sharia deals with many topics that includes crime politics economics as well as hygiene diet prayers fasting sexuality , if we want to be good muslims its the best way to follow the sharia but you seems to be against the Sharia law of allah i wonder why Do you believe sharia law is not complete or something.?

[The_Emperior5]

I doesn't even make sense, I am somali regardless of my country. In Djibouti there are afars and somalis, so are these somalis citizens of somalia. The citizens of somalia and the ethnicity somali, should be differetiated. Do not confuse the two.
Also my nationality on paper is British, I have not and never had a somali passport so I was never a citizen. Insha'allah I will hold dual nationality with the Somaliland citizenship and even if somaliland never get's recognition, the fact still on the ground is that no government official from somalia can land in hargeisa and claim that it is somalia: 20years and counting

The people living in Djibouti are not called Somali on their passports. That is a recless comment you just posted. Only those living in Somalia have Somali passport. The Somalis in ogaden have Ethiopian passport. And those in Kenya have kenyan. If you dont want to be part of Somalia, then your nationality according to law, isnt Somali. Therefore you are rejecting the Somali nationality. Stop joking around. Somaliland wont become a country. You can keep the flag and the dream, but the goverment will become a federal goverment, under the REAL adminstration in Somalia.

Somali is an Ethnic group its not a nationality the people fo Djibouti are Somalis you should not confuse an Ethnic group with Politics. Somaliland citizenship Djiboutian citizenship Somalias Citizenship Kenyan Citizenship Ethiopian Citizenship thats how it is

[Coeus]

I doesn't even make sense, I am somali regardless of my country. In Djibouti there are afars and somalis, so are these somalis citizens of somalia. The citizens of somalia and the ethnicity somali, should be differetiated. Do not confuse the two.
Also my nationality on paper is British, I have not and never had a somali passport so I was never a citizen. Insha'allah I will hold dual nationality with the Somaliland citizenship and even if somaliland never get's recognition, the fact still on the ground is that no government official from somalia can land in hargeisa and claim that it is somalia: 20years and counting

The people living in Djibouti are not called Somali on their passports. That is a recless comment you just posted. Only those living in Somalia have Somali passport. The Somalis in ogaden have Ethiopian passport. And those in Kenya have kenyan. If you dont want to be part of Somalia, then your nationality according to law, isnt Somali. Therefore you are rejecting the Somali nationality. Stop joking around. Somaliland wont become a country. You can keep the flag and the dream, but the goverment will become a federal goverment, under the REAL adminstration in Somalia.

Somali is an Ethnic group its not a nationality the people fo Djibouti are Somalis you should not confuse an Ethnic group with Politics. Somaliland citizenship Djiboutian citizenship Somalias Citizenship Kenyan Citizenship Ethiopian Citizenship thats how it is

Well isnt that exactly what you guys are doing? Confusing etnicity with Politics? What is this new term called "Somalilanders"? Isnt that confusing your Somali etnicity with the politics of north Somalia? Thus calling yourselves "somalilanders"?

You are still Somali etnicly and any Somali from all of Somalia needs a Somali passport

[grandpakhalif]

Somaliland is not even implementing sharia law its aimplenting a gaalo democracy it doesnt even acknowledge or kill german man who fucked two somali women they let them go, they worship recognition more than allah and his laws, so somaliland cannot be supported. But TFG they support sharia law even Sh shariff said give us a chance we will implement proper sharia law. so TFG is better than this fake somaliland.

[The_Emperior5]

Well isnt that exactly what you guys are doing? Confusing etnicity with Politics? What is this new term called "Somalilanders"? Isnt that confusing your Somali etnicity with the politics of north Somalia? Thus calling yourselves "somalilanders"?

You are still Somali etnicly and any Somali from all of Somalia needs a Somali passport

The thing is i am not from somalia

Somalilanders term a person from Somaliland its simple as that.
A somali From Somaliland
A somali from Djibouti
A somali from Somalia
A somali From Ethiopia
A somali from Kenya

[The_Emperior5]

Somaliland is not even implementing sharia law its aimplenting a gaalo democracy it doesnt even acknowledge or kill german man who fucked two somali women they let them go, they worship recognition more than allah and his laws, so somaliland cannot be supported. But TFG they support sharia law even Sh shariff said give us a chance we will implement proper sharia law. so TFG is better than this fake somaliland.

There is one political party in Somaliland that supports implementing sharia law in our country that shows you that people can voice their opinion to be ruled by sharia i hope inshallah that party in the future leads Somaliland under sharia law

[union]

Somaliland is not even implementing sharia law its aimplenting a gaalo democracy it doesnt even acknowledge or kill german man who fucked two somali women they let them go, they worship recognition more than allah and his laws, so somaliland cannot be supported. But TFG they support sharia law even Sh shariff said give us a chance we will implement proper sharia law. so TFG is better than this fake somaliland.

There is one political party in Somaliland that supports implementing sharia law in our country that shows you that people can voice their opinion to be ruled by sharia i hope inshallah that party in the future leads Somaliland under sharia law

So you're implying that God's laws are up for election at the people's whims?

[Coeus]

Well isnt that exactly what you guys are doing? Confusing etnicity with Politics? What is this new term called "Somalilanders"? Isnt that confusing your Somali etnicity with the politics of north Somalia? Thus calling yourselves "somalilanders"?

You are still Somali etnicly and any Somali from all of Somalia needs a Somali passport

The thing is i am not from somalia

Somalilanders term a person from Somaliland its simple as that.
A somali From Somaliland
A somali from Djibouti
A somali from Somalia
A somali From Ethiopia
A somali from Kenya

Saxiib

Italian Somaliland
French Somaliland
British Somaliland
= A land witch Somali resides

They were all names for the colonies and protectorates. That name ended 1960 1 june. If you want to have that title then its your own personal issue. But if yuo are saying taht the people of the north is Somalilanders then you are wrong. They are Somali from Somalia.

[The_Patriot]

Also I have a question what do you Coues consider to be somalinimo and what is not somalinimo?

Somalinimo is supporting you Somali brothers and sisters who are suffering in Somalia and Ogaden. Aswell as those who succed in the north side of the country. Somalinimo is nationalism. Something every country has. Something Somalis have lost these last 20 years. The very thought of splitting a nation in two because of one dictator, shows that Nationalism hasnt been proper taught in Somalia. Many countries face things we cant imagine, yet the stick together and fight for their Nationalism.

Qabil is for old men, Somalia is a country for young men

so you talked about supporting somali brothers. Lets restrict it to somalia for now and forget about other regions.

What do you understand by the term nationalist?

What do you understand by the term government?

I will make it easy for you an analogy.

for example a single unit i,e a family do you think that its the responsibility of the family members to foster cohesion amongst themselves or the responsibility of a social worker to dictate policies for how the family should run.

[The_Emperior5]

union not at all Somaliland parties should of promoted sharia law but thats what the sl constitution at the moment unfortunately says but the moment that party takes control we will get rid the constitution we have at the moment. and replace it with the holy quran