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Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:38 am
by DR-YALAXOOW
abdi.ismail wrote:Dameer yalaxow, go back to your farm. :lol: :arrow:

Look at these gaalo-loving adoon retards. Are you comparing rome, a city built by pagan romans and that had nothing to do with Isa (caleyhi salaam) or his message with makkah and madina the resting place of the prophet SAWS and the sahaba (may Allah be pleased with them)? Building a mosque in rome is different to building a church in ard al Islam. For one thing Christianity is wrong and Islam is the true faith, therefore do you want to build a temple of kufr in muslim lands? Just because they gave you welfare and a citizenship you think can re-write islam to please gaalo kaadida iska nadiifin? GTFOH you hapless donkey. :lol: :lol: :down:
the question is not if christianty is wrong or not, we are talking about christian countres in europe and north america they allowed to be build masjids in their countres so why not we muslims alllow to build church for christians in who live in saudi arabia to worship their allah god! my question is why UK and sweden allow muslims to build masjid in their country and saudi arabia can not allow christians to build church in their country.

saudi arabia it self is not holy country. only 2 cities in saudi arabia are holy whichs makka and madiina and
prophets scw allowed jews in madiina to build their macbads in madiina therefore those who are agains churches in saudi arabia are wrong. ABOUT PAGANS even makka once was hands of paggans, maka was worship places of arab pagans, and christianyty and judeism are monotheists religion like Islam. waxay rumeysan yihiin one allah like us. so why not build churches in saudi arabia, iam for it 100`%

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:45 am
by The_Emperior5
Dr ximaar maantu ka daray oo u yidhi dhulki bareykeysna aynu kniisadu ka dhisno :lol: oo dabeedna :lol: Kniisadiihi yurub ku yaalay ba misajido laga dhigayaa he does not even know all the gaalos in the west are not even christians wa wada atheist. aan wax diin ah ba aminsaneyn ama ilahay ba

Dhulka barakaysan waligeed laga dhiso mayo kniisad ama guri Yuhuud

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:52 am
by melo
Rasulullah sallahu calayhi wassalam ordered non Muslims just not out of Makkah and Madinah, but of the entire area. It is a misconception that Makkah and Madinah are only off bounds to the Non Muslims.

And lol@ Union posting pics of the Cabdullah and the people. War Cabdullah is a known mujrim. He would have riots if he dared ok that.
Why u arguing with him? Christians, Jews and Muslims are monotheists. Ask a Christian and they will tell you they believe in one God. Even though the Holy Trinity makes no f-king sense whatsoever , it doesn't change this fact.
:lol:

In reality, both the Christians and jews are mushriks. They take men as legislators besides Allah, which Allah calls as "taking lords besides Allah". Is this not shirk at its highest?

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:52 am
by melo
Rasulullah sallahu calayhi wassalam ordered non Muslims just not out of Makkah and Madinah, but of the entire area. It is a misconception that Makkah and Madinah are only off bounds to the Non Muslims.

And lol@ Union posting pics of the Cabdullah and the people. War Cabdullah is a known mujrim. He would have riots if he dared ok that.
Why u arguing with him? Christians, Jews and Muslims are monotheists. Ask a Christian and they will tell you they believe in one God. Even though the Holy Trinity makes no f-king sense whatsoever , it doesn't change this fact.
:lol:

In reality, both the Christians and jews are mushriks. They take men as legislators besides Allah, which Allah calls as "taking lords besides Allah". Is this not shirk at its highest?

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:56 am
by melo
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
abdi.ismail wrote:Dameer yalaxow, go back to your farm. :lol: :arrow:

Look at these gaalo-loving adoon retards. Are you comparing rome, a city built by pagan romans and that had nothing to do with Isa (caleyhi salaam) or his message with makkah and madina the resting place of the prophet SAWS and the sahaba (may Allah be pleased with them)? Building a mosque in rome is different to building a church in ard al Islam. For one thing Christianity is wrong and Islam is the true faith, therefore do you want to build a temple of kufr in muslim lands? Just because they gave you welfare and a citizenship you think can re-write islam to please gaalo kaadida iska nadiifin? GTFOH you hapless donkey. :lol: :lol: :down:
the question is not if christianty is wrong or not, we are talking about christian countres in europe and north america they allowed to be build masjids in their countres so why not we muslims alllow to build church for christians in who live in saudi arabia to worship their allah god! my question is why UK and sweden allow muslims to build masjid in their country and saudi arabia can not allow christians to build church in their country.

saudi arabia it self is not holy country. only 2 cities in saudi arabia are holy whichs makka and madiina and
prophets scw allowed jews in madiina to build their macbads in madiina therefore those who are agains churches in saudi arabia are wrong. ABOUT PAGANS even makka once was hands of paggans, maka was worship places of arab pagans, and christianyty and judeism are monotheists religion like Islam. waxay rumeysan yihiin one allah like us. so why not build churches in saudi arabia, iam for it 100`%
Here's the difference.

These western countries you speak of are not christian. Heck, if you polled most people, you'd find that most are atheists. These countries are secular and liberal, meaning in theory they are not allowed to favour one religion over another.

Sacuudi arabia on the other hand is an Islamic country. They are situated on Holy Lands. The same rules do not apply then.

The vatican would never allowed a masjid to be built on their land. And you know what.. i don't blame them.

Places like Mina and Caraafat are not in either cities. How about places like Badr and Uxud. Are you going to say these places are not holy? How about Mount Hira?

The prophet said that no two religions can exist in that area of the world.

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:59 am
by Complicated19
I'm with Union ... I don't see anything wrong with building Churches outside the holy cities . Being able to practise your religion freely is a basic human right. If you want to practise your religion , you need a place of worship. Imagine you didn't have mosques :?:
Why should we be allowed to build mosques everywhere in Christian countries ? Remember that mega mosque plan in the UK? Don't know what happened to it but yeah. The UK is like what ... 2% Muslim? Yet, we are allowed to practise our religion in the way we want . It's not about being a gaallo lover; it's about catering for the needs of all the country's citizens !

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:01 am
by melo
Complicated19 wrote:I'm with Union ... I don't see anything wrong with building Churches outside the holy cities . Being able to practise your religion freely is a basic human right. If you want to practise your religion , you need a place of worship. Imagine you didn't have mosques :?:
Why should we be allowed to build mosques everywhere in Christian countries ? Remember that mega mosque plan in the UK? Don't know what happened to it but yeah. The UK is like what ... 2% Muslim? Yet, we are allowed to practise our religion in the way we want . It's not about being a gaallo lover; it's about catering for the needs of all the country's citizens !
You would have a point if these countries you speak of were actually Christian. The only Christian state in the world is Vatican City. Last time i checked, there were no masaajids there.

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:06 am
by Complicated19
melo wrote:Rasulullah sallahu calayhi wassalam ordered non Muslims just not out of Makkah and Madinah, but of the entire area. It is a misconception that Makkah and Madinah are only off bounds to the Non Muslims.

And lol@ Union posting pics of the Cabdullah and the people. War Cabdullah is a known mujrim. He would have riots if he dared ok that.
Why u arguing with him? Christians, Jews and Muslims are monotheists. Ask a Christian and they will tell you they believe in one God. Even though the Holy Trinity makes no f-king sense whatsoever , it doesn't change this fact.
:lol:

In reality, both the Christians and jews are mushriks. They take men as legislators besides Allah, which Allah calls as "taking lords besides Allah". Is this not shirk at its highest?

Bring forth proof about what the prophet said and I will shut up .



Quite irrelevant . Doesn't change the fact they believe in one God. :|

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:09 am
by Complicated19
melo wrote:
Complicated19 wrote:I'm with Union ... I don't see anything wrong with building Churches outside the holy cities . Being able to practise your religion freely is a basic human right. If you want to practise your religion , you need a place of worship. Imagine you didn't have mosques :?:
Why should we be allowed to build mosques everywhere in Christian countries ? Remember that mega mosque plan in the UK? Don't know what happened to it but yeah. The UK is like what ... 2% Muslim? Yet, we are allowed to practise our religion in the way we want . It's not about being a gaallo lover; it's about catering for the needs of all the country's citizens !
You would have a point if these countries you speak of were actually Christian. The only Christian state in the world is Vatican City. Last time i checked, there were no masaajids there.
Loool I'm talking about Christian majority countries ! You are talking about holy cities ???

Perhaps there isn't a siginificant Muslim community. :|

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:18 am
by melo
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula."

Malik said that Ibn Shihab said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab searched for information about that until he was absolutely convinced that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had said, 'Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula,' and he therefore expelled the jews from Khaybar." - Malik's Muwatta, Book 45, Number 45.5.18

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. - Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4366

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:18 am
by melo
Loool I'm talking about Christian majority countries ! You are talking about holy cities ???

Perhaps there isn't a siginificant Muslim community.
As Islamic and Christian country is defined by its adherence to the principles of that religion. There is not a single western country that can be defined as Christian.

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:20 am
by DR-YALAXOOW
melo wrote:
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Here's the difference.

These western countries you speak of are not christian. Heck, if you polled most people, you'd find that most are atheists. These countries are secular and liberal, meaning in theory they are not allowed to favour one religion over another.

Sacuudi arabia on the other hand is an Islamic country. They are situated on Holy Lands. The same rules do not apply then.

The vatican would never allowed a masjid to be built on their land. And you know what.. i don't blame them.

Places like Mina and Caraafat are not in either cities. How about places like Badr and Uxud. Are you going to say these places are not holy? How about Mount Hira?

The prophet said that no two religions can exist in that area of the world.

Europa and north america australia are christians countres, yes people had become ethiest after darwin evolution theory but still state religion of UK itali sweden america australia are christians religion.

and in MADIIINA the time of prophets scw he allowed jews to build their jews snoeygouges and jews was part of MADIIINA people.

saudi arabia is self is not a HOLY land, JIDDAH, RIYAADH, and mny other cities in SAUDI ARABIA ARE NOR MORE HOLY THAN SOMALIA or sweden.

yes makka and madiina is holy but jerusalam too is holy but there was already other religions before islam come. MADIINA in rasuul scw time there were jews snoeygouges therefore is not true that ISLAM DOES NOT ALLOW other religions to build their macbad in saudi arabia( jazuuratul arab)


VATICAN IS NOT a CITY, VATICAN IS IN ROME ITALY, like MASJIDUL XARAM is in MAKKA SAUDI ARABIA. you can not build of course church inside masjudil xaram either you can not buil inside the VATICAN. but in ROME ITALY there are already biggest masjids in europe, and makka there is no church.



jews are not mushrikiin or Polytheism beliviers, they are like islam one god belivers or so called Monotheist religion.

mushrik or Polytheism are those who believe multiple gods and goddesses like hinduu and budist. jew are not.

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:21 am
by Complicated19
Alright, I have been silenced :lol:

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:25 am
by melo
Europa and north america australia are christians countres, yes people had become ethiest after darwin evolution theory but still state religion of UK itali sweden america australia are christians religion.
No they are not. These countries are secular and liberal. They left religion in the dustbin. It would be the same if you called Kemal Attaturk a muslim :lol:
and in MADIIINA the time of prophets scw he allowed jews to build their jews snoeygouges and jews was part of MADIIINA people.
Yes, and then he preceded to kick them out.
saudi arabia is self is not a HOLY land, JIDDAH, RIYAADH, and mnu other cities in SAUDI ARABIA ARE NOR MORE HOLY THAN SOMALIA or sweden.
But Mina, Carafaat, Uxud, Badar and Mount hira are all not in Makkah or Madinah. Are they all not holy?

yes makka and madiina is holy but jerusalam too is holy but there was already other religions before islam come. MADIINA in rasuul scw time there were jews snoeygouges therefore is not true that ISLAM DOES NOT ALLOW other religions to build their macbad in saudi arabia( jazuuratul arab)
The prophet saws ordered the removal of all christians and jews out of the area. The jews were expelled during his lifetime,and Cumar ra finished the job.

VATICAN IS NOT a CITY, VATICAN IS IN ROME ITALY, like MASJIDUL XARAM is in MAKKA SAUDI ARABIA. you can not build of course church inside masjudil xaram either you can not buil inside the VATICAN. but in ROME ITALY there are already biggest masjids in europe, and makka there is no church.
Abti, please don't embarrass yourself. Wallahi. If you repeat this again, i'm going to have to shame you.
jews are not mushrikiin or Polytheism beliviers, they are like islam one god belivers or so called Monotheist religion.
The Quran says that the Jews took their rabbis as lords besides Allah.

Re: building churches in Saudi Arabia

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:26 am
by Complicated19
melo wrote:
Loool I'm talking about Christian majority countries ! You are talking about holy cities ???

Perhaps there isn't a siginificant Muslim community.
As Islamic and Christian country is defined by its adherence to the principles of that religion. There is not a single western country that can be defined as Christian.
How would you know if someone adheres to the principles of a religion? :lol: :lol:

Didn't know the census had a ' how well do u follow ur religion?' section ! :mrgreen:
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