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Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:42 pm
by union
grandpakhalif wrote:Union you are actually directly furthering my argument, Allah SWT uses the word literally in the aforementioned ayaat about the thief, and in other circumstances uses a dfferent grammatical metaphoric word for the same word would make sense 'cutting off relationship'. This is common sense yo ucan't literally cut a relationship
How do you know he doesn't mean cutting the causes compelling the thief to steal? Like poverty, lack of education?
And why didn't Prophet Joseph cut the hands of the thief in that story in the Qu'ran?
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:03 pm
by kadarre
union wrote:kadarre wrote:Union, I swear you are like a Zionist.
What do you mean?

Why do you always start topics like this? I remember your topic about evolution. Where you tried to push some gaalo views on us.
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:05 pm
by union
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You mean the view supported by the worldwide scientific community? Including all legitimate Muslim scientists?
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:08 pm
by ToughGong
Why do you always start topics like this? I remember your topic about evolution. Where you tried to push some gaalo views on us.
It's all a ruse.He wants Uncle Sam to believe he has repented from his time spent in the Swat Valley(Taliban Country) to get his green card
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:09 pm
by kadarre
Evolution is a theory not a fact!
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:11 pm
by union
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No, it's not only a fact but a fundamental scientific principal.
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:14 pm
by Cirwaaq
Look behind them, these are their future fighters are TFg willing to kill all of them, when the father dies and drops his AK47 his son will pick it up, they have had 10years of indoctrination and the grandson will follow the same footsteps
Each father you kill will have a at least 3 sons who will seek revenge for the death of his father!
This will never end.
Stop killing innocent somali people.
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:15 pm
by Shirib
union,
I think you may argue that Al Shabaab isn't giving people a fair trial, or that they are cutting off hands when mass poverty exists and they should take that account before amputations.
But I don't think you can call cutting off limbs "draconian" or not apart of the religion. From the time of the prophet it is clear that it is a fair and just practice and is decreed by Allah. If you really think otherwise, I'm not sure of what else to say to you.
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:19 pm
by NewHargeisaGirl
Excellent post, @ UNION
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:27 pm
by tightrope
greenday wrote:No i t's not up for interpretation the Quran is a clear book with guidance an all, there are no riddles, our scholars have agreed that thief hand must be cut off unless he was forced to steal under special circumstances, such as poverty.
Most people dont steal for fun, the people in Somalia are poor so they do have a reason. We know that Allah is forgiving.
Alshabab are cutting of hands for their own agenda.
AGREE WITH YOU 100%

Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:34 pm
by union
Shirib wrote:union,
I think you may argue that Al Shabaab isn't giving people a fair trial, or that they are cutting off hands when mass poverty exists and they should take that account before amputations.
But I don't think you can call cutting off limbs "draconian" or not apart of the religion. From the time of the prophet it is clear that it is a fair and just practice and is decreed by Allah. If you really think otherwise, I'm not sure of what else to say to you.
Am I wrong for advocating for an interpretation of the Qu'ran that is humane, just, and decent? A religion revealed from the most righteous himself has to be the most righteous, and whichever way you make it out cutting off a hand for stealing a cellphone isn't right.
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:34 pm
by union
Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:35 pm
by union
tightrope wrote:greenday wrote:No i t's not up for interpretation the Quran is a clear book with guidance an all, there are no riddles, our scholars have agreed that thief hand must be cut off unless he was forced to steal under special circumstances, such as poverty.
Most people dont steal for fun, the people in Somalia are poor so they do have a reason. We know that Allah is forgiving.
Alshabab are cutting of hands for their own agenda.
AGREE WITH YOU 100%


Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:41 pm
by tightrope
AL-SHAYDAN ALSO CUTS HANDS AND LEGS OF BOYS AND MENS WHO REFUSED TO JOIN THEIR SATANIC ARMY!
SOMALI TEEN ISMAIL KHALIF ABDULLE NOW LIVING IN NORWAY AS A REFUGEE

Re: Wonderful world of radical Islam
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:52 pm
by Madd_Scientist_
Allahu Akbar!!!!!