XAMAR - FEBRUARY 2011

[Shirib]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

[XimanJaale]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

mamuul? As in federal regional mamuul or national government?

[Shirib]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

mamuul? As in federal regional mamuul or national government?

federal, maamulka gobalka banadir.

[greenday]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

Dont you think there are too many clans for that?

Xamar is for all, everyone has other cities. Lets share this one.

[abgaalKING]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

Dont you think there are too many clans for that?

Xamar is for all, everyone has other cities. Lets share this one.

at the expense of local clans?

[XimanJaale]

Shirib, that hard to work out, it will cause conflict as there is too many different tribes that have xamar as their deegan, so i don't think banaadir should have regional mamuul, unless the government choices mayor, regional leader ect from different tribes that have baanadir as their deegan. U see baandir is different to the rest of the 17 regions, looking at the map clearly shows u.

[Shirib]

Benadiris, shaanshi, reer xamar, bantu, somali cad cad, abgaal are the people of Banaadir, they have upper hand as it is their deegan, but Xamar is the capital city so other people like Darood, isaaq, other hawiye, have the rights to live, work in their capital, wats good about Xamar its that it is lived by variety of people, i mean its silly to make Luuq ganaane the capital as it is strictly marehan deegan, also garowe cause its strictly Majertan deegan, or goldogob as it is strictly leelkase deegan, or caadado as it is striclty hawiyd deegan all these cities i mentioned can't turn into capital, marka xamar cadey illaahi ha no dayo

I don't think anyone was talking about living and working. Everyone has a right to live and work anywhere in Somalia. But when it comes to maamuls, it should be the local clans who get it whether it be in Garbahaareey or Xamar.

Agree?

Dont you think there are too many clans for that?

Xamar is for all, everyone has other cities. Lets share this one.

Why should u get to keep yours to yourself and share mine with me?

[Shirib]

Shirib, that hard to work out, it will cause conflict as there is too many different tribes that have xamar as their deegan, so i don't think banaadir should have regional mamuul, unless the government choices mayor, regional leader ect from different tribes that have baanadir as their deegan. U see baandir is different to the rest of the 17 regions, looking at the map clearly shows u.

Actually there aren't. Only clans that have a claim to Xamar are, Abgaal, Wacdaan, Murusade, Reer Xamar, Jareer and Geledi. A maamul for the gobol can be easily worked out within these clans.

The problem with this federalism thing is, why would everyone get to share Xamar at the expense of those clans, surely you can see how it's unfair to those clans.

[greenday]

at the expense of local clans?

No.
Like ximan said most other cities have single clans making it easy for a maamul based on qabiil but in xamar that cant be. What if each qabiil says xamar is part of my maamul gobleed?
The central government should run xamar.

[abgaalKING]

at the expense of local clans?

No.
Like ximan said most other cities have single clans making it easy for a maamul based on qabiil but in xamar that cant be. What if each qabiil says xamar is part of my maamul gobleed?
The central government should run xamar.

really? how many clans live in baladweyn,galkacyo?

[Shirib]

at the expense of local clans?

No.
Like ximan said most other cities have single clans making it easy for a maamul based on qabiil but in xamar that cant be. What if each qabiil says xamar is part of my maamul gobleed?
The central government should run xamar.

The clans that have a claim to Xamar waa la kasaa. Everyone knows who they are, and they can build a maamul for themselves.

If central government is gonna run Xamar, they better be running every other city too. It doesn't make sense for a guy from Galgaduud to come and say I'm gonna rule Galgaduud and I'm gonna rule it myself, and btw we're gonna share Xamar too.

That's unfair, everyone can see that

[greenday]

Why should u get to keep yours to yourself and share mine with me?

Who made xamar yours and not mine? You cant claim xamar as yours. Its shared.

[Shirib]

at the expense of local clans?

No.
Like ximan said most other cities have single clans making it easy for a maamul based on qabiil but in xamar that cant be. What if each qabiil says xamar is part of my maamul gobleed?
The central government should run xamar.

really? how many clans live in baladweyn,galkacyo?

funny thing is the clans who live their are actually feuding clans.

The clans of Xamar don't even feud with each other for the most part. Its outsiders who aren't from Banadir who cause the problems.

[Shirib]

Why should u get to keep yours to yourself and share mine with me?

Who made xamar yours and not mine? You cant claim xamar as yours. Its shared.

Easy, MY CLAN IS FROM XAMAR, and yours is from Galgaduud.

If u wanna share Xamar, I want my share of the pie of Dhuusomareeb

[XimanJaale]

Shirib, that hard to work out, it will cause conflict as there is too many different tribes that have xamar as their deegan, so i don't think banaadir should have regional mamuul, unless the government choices mayor, regional leader ect from different tribes that have baanadir as their deegan. U see baandir is different to the rest of the 17 regions, looking at the map clearly shows u.

Actually there aren't. Only clans that have a claim to Xamar are, Abgaal, Wacdaan, Murusade, Reer Xamar, Jareer and Geledi. A maamul for the gobol can be easily worked out within these clans.

The problem with this federalism thing is, why would everyone get to share Xamar at the expense of those clans, surely you can see how it's unfair to those clans.

share xamar in wat way bro? Xamar is the capital city, and the variety of people that live there makes it suitable, iam sure the people already happy that their deegan will get best treatment as it is a capital city. About mamuul let those benadiris make their own no one is stopping them and it won't affect the rest of the people unless it causes conflict btw the benadiris.