A MASTER PLAN....

[ZubeirAwal]

What makes you think you can do that
SNM was disbanded 20 years ago and formed somaliland which is even stronger, and SNM fought 2/3 of the SNA including Tanks and warplanes aswell as ground soldiers, which they were all defeated,

[EastAfrica]

What makes you think you can do that
SNM was disbanded 20 years ago and formed somaliland which is even stronger, and SNM fought 2/3 of the SNA including Tanks and warplanes aswell as ground soldiers, which they were all defeated,

SNM =Somalidiid-land same thing, does not matter how many times you change your name, snm/somalidiidland is still useless and evil rebel gang

[EastAfrica]

Dhulbahante is a minority within Somaliland's borders.

Every where in world, only oppressed minorities want to secede from their countries, In Somalia, snm/somalidiidland want to secede from Somalia, because Isaaq is minority inside Somalia borders from Loo-yacadde/Seylac to Kismaayo

[EastAfrica]

s****a saado cali soo leef leef.

SNM waaa S.,.,.,., Naagaha Marqaansan

[SLJOOFAY]

I know I'm not Isaaq but after spending time and effort studying Somaliland, its past and hopefully promised future, independence. If we look back at the birth of Somaliland and its current path, I think a monumental mistake was made by those in charge of Somaliland today. Silanyo and Ina Kahin and all the SNM combatants at the time should really have sanitized, what it today the troublesome SSC region. I use the word troublesome not because the have any ability to course anarchy inside Somaliland proper, but because dealing with them now is going to be messy. Had the then new born Somaliland in a full on assault turned all its might on accomplishing this single mission, today that region would be like cerigabo instead of the wild wild west. The leadership of Somaliland and Silanyo in particular need to understand something they missed the first time building a country requires blood to be split yours and more of the enemy's for a country to be born. Today if Somaliland goes hard on those who dont follow the blessed Duriyad, the international community will not be happy and the chances of recognition derailed. So a full on assault is out of the question. We cant forever bribe these double dealing jackals, its pointless. We can gain there support in the short term but in the long term its fruitless and the money spent will not be worth the end result. This seems to be the current SL position, and playing nanny to them.
However I have a better solution. You see our peace in the north makes two people happy us and the west. The west wants Somaliland to stay in this semi-independence position till the south matures and the north gets leaders tired of this no-mans land Somaliland is in and they kiss and make up. Thats is there plan and we just seem to be playing the part they scripted for us.
What we need to do is be pro-active in not begging but forcing our policies on both the west and anybody else who has a problem like the SSC. We need to scare the west and put them under pressure so they make decisions more inline with our policies. We do this buy controlled anarchy. We destabilize the north by making it seem like the SL government is losing control of maintaining the peace and SL is being infiltrated by Southerners or in our SSC supporters in cahoot with Al-Shabab and al-qaida. The officials we currently have in SL from SSC will be stripped of any power and locked up on some trumped up charges of supporting terrorism. This will course two thinks one inflame their supporters and two make the west take notice.
The SL mission thats lobbying for recognition will have to put that on hold and lobby hard to insure that the SSC and AL-qaida are one. Then the SL army will be able to apply a policy similar to that of Ethiopia regarding the Ogadenia or Sudan with it Janjaweed with little international blow back, infact Im sure the west will supply the bullets as long as we have pitched them the benefits well.
The other step needed to gain more television coverage and make the hardlines is the SL government needs to support covertly pirates to operate inside SL waters. This will make the west panic as it the mouth of the Red sea and much more ships will be effected. Again we blame this on Somalis from the south and SL gov does not have the ability to stop these pirates operating in its waters, with it dealing with terrorist in SSC. Meaning more money for SL to remove every last non-somalilander.
This will need sacrifices and blood of alot of innocent people. So how far is SL willing to go.
Otherwise leave the SSC people alone and let them go there separate way. I have never met a pro-sl dhulbahnte person and thats how the majority feel.

Bro, I agree with a lot of wot you say. I agree that some key mistakes in the early days after victory, the blame for these mistakes lies at feet of Habar Jeclo. The Habar awal and Garxajis SNM in the west destroyed a few towns and entered Borama not to occupy it but rather to show the Gudabirsi tribe the consequence of war. The Habar Yoonis in Ceerigabo and western Sanaag gave the Warsengeli such a Karbaash they that now well and truly know their place. The problem was that the Habar Jeclo who suffered the most, in terms of Dhulbahante harresment and provocation, during the Said Barre government where unwilling to exact further revenge on them by giving them the serious karbashed that they both needed and deserved. When Habar yoonis saw that they weren't gona do any thing they decided to deal with the Dhullos themselves at this point the Habar jeclo military leaders such as ina Kahin and elders stood inbetween the SNM and Dhullos and said "you must go through us". Las anood was completly untouched only because of Habar Jeclo "calool jileec" and hesitation.

Having said that, you must realise that Somaliland's democratic values, freedom and above all PEACE cannot be broken or sacrifised for Recognition. The most important thing is that Somalilanders already recognise them selfs as an Indepent nation and have their own National Identity. This SSC thing is a faze and if we have learnt anything from living with Dhullos for centuries is that they never know what they want or even wots good for them, baisically they blow which ever way the wind is blowing.

[Babygirl-]

You agree with him because ciil baad qaabta..

Dhulbahante destroyed the SNM and stopped them! and they knew their best chance was to have Peace with Dhulos.. and today i will destroy whats left of SNM!

[juzme123]

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[Babygirl-]

Calaacaalka jooji.

Waali laa isma gaariin.

[EastAfrica]

And how are our dear Dhulbahante re-paying us (HJ) today. Ungratefulness at its best.

And how are our dear H/J re-paying us Dhulbahante, Ungratefulness at its best. Many prominent Dhulbahante were speaking on behalf of Isaaq rights like AUN Garaad Abduqani who went to meet with snm rebels, and Saado Cali made songs to support Northwest Somalia people, and she went jail for it.

And no single H/J or Isaaq say one word about the Warlord Siilaanyo and Somalidiid militia in SSC region. All Isaaq and H/J blindly like sheep are following Warlord Siiilanyo Dhiigyacab.

[Cirwaaq]

All good things come from Allah swt , we just need to NOT stray too far away from his path , or you'll become as crazy as these "other" people .

So you support the annihilation of Dhulbahante because they are against Somaliland Politically!

Username go take care of the South u claim to be from, where they are killing each other Daily for the last 20+ yrs instead of wishing Dhulbahante to be destroyed! Terrorism, Raping, killing, Massacares, mooryanism, kidnapping are all in the south (Zoomalia) ..

If only wishes could come true.

GOD BLESS SSC!

One day we southerners are the people you claim to worship then next you generalise the whole south based on your debate with one individual. Yeah sure we got a place for you... care to think why we need you in the south?

[Babygirl-]

All good things come from Allah swt , we just need to NOT stray too far away from his path , or you'll become as crazy as these "other" people .

So you support the annihilation of Dhulbahante because they are against Somaliland Politically!

Username go take care of the South u claim to be from, where they are killing each other Daily for the last 20+ yrs instead of wishing Dhulbahante to be destroyed! Terrorism, Raping, killing, Massacares, mooryanism, kidnapping are all in the south (Zoomalia) ..

If only wishes could come true.

GOD BLESS SSC!

One day we southerners are the people you claim to worship then next you generalise the whole south based on your debate with one individual. Yeah sure we got a place for you... care to think why we need you in the south?

My former maid plz wait your turn am dealing with your co-workers

[Cirwaaq]

If i was your house Maid all your children would be Bastards of our affairs while Udun is roaming the streets and can't fulfill his duties.

Hurryup i am missing you.

[CORRUPTION]

Cirwaaq you should not believe these Dhulbahantes they are hypocrites they hate Hawiyes and southerners the most they only use the unity card when they are running away from Isaaq and Somaliland




liste 03:19
This what an ssc poet said he is calling Gaaljecel and garre and gugudhabe hawiye subclan

gaaljecel gara iyo booraan iyo gugudhabbe aan raaco kuwi aan la kala guursan jirin marka waan gumoobay aan arlada iskaga guuro untouchables and clans they cant marry from

[juzme123]

And how are our dear Dhulbahante re-paying us (HJ) today. Ungratefulness at its best.

And how are our dear H/J re-paying us Dhulbahante, Ungratefulness at its best. Many prominent Dhulbahante were speaking on behalf of Isaaq rights like AUN Garaad Abduqani who went to meet with snm rebels, and Saado Cali made songs to support Northwest Somalia people, and she went jail for it.

And no single H/J or Isaaq say one word about the Warlord Siilaanyo and Somalidiid militia in SSC region. All Isaaq and H/J blindly like sheep are following Warlord Siiilanyo Dhiigyacab.

HJ has done nothing to Dhulbahante. trust me, you'd know if we had different ambitions. This strictly about SSC nabadiid militia.

P.S: You seriously need to stop using my arguments. Don't make it a habit. Be more original

[juzme123]

And how are our dear Dhulbahante re-paying us (HJ) today. Ungratefulness at its best.

And how are our dear H/J re-paying us Dhulbahante, Ungratefulness at its best. Many prominent Dhulbahante were speaking on behalf of Isaaq rights like AUN Garaad Abduqani who went to meet with snm rebels, and Saado Cali made songs to support Northwest Somalia people, and she went jail for it.

And no single H/J or Isaaq say one word about the Warlord Siilaanyo and Somalidiid militia in SSC region. All Isaaq and H/J blindly like sheep are following Warlord Siiilanyo Dhiigyacab.

Action speaks louder than words. There is a difference between a few people saying something once or twice and an entire HJ physically defending Dhulbahante from others. The fact that you compare the two things shows your ungratefulness We defended you with blood and the bareel of the gun and your talking about generic songs

As for "re-paying you" for a song that one woman, with Isaaq family, made

I can tell you though, when SSC nabadiid milita is sorted out SSC will be like the rest of SOmaliland with law and order, free schools and an environment cohesive to development We are working on it