Somali Membership In The Arab League

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Murax

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[sexy-kitten]

Come to think of it, it has become quite useless when You think of Somalis future. I think future Somali Statehood is most probably gonna have a heavy regional (Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda) influence and will probably be bankrolled financially by some combination of Western powers. Generally speaking I do not see any sort of inroads the Arab League Has made in Somalia, yet the African Union which is 500x weaker financially has had the most impact in Somalia whether You view that negatively or positively is up to You. Although I don't see any real influence the Arab League will ever play in Somalia in the future, it still doesn't hurt to keep the membership. Perhaps it could be a little tool to coax some funds in the future.

I never really got the whole idea of us joining the Arab League. Is that supposed to bring us closer to them or something? Weren't we all supposed to "help each other" all because we were all under the Arab League umbrella? Like you said, most of the Arab countries sat and watched us all die or kill each other without interfering. What good is an agreement if you can't hold your end of the bargain?!?!

[RovingMadness]

Come to think of it, it has become quite useless when You think of Somalis future. I think future Somali Statehood is most probably gonna have a heavy regional (Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda) influence and will probably be bankrolled financially by some combination of Western powers. Generally speaking I do not see any sort of inroads the Arab League Has made in Somalia, yet the African Union which is 500x weaker financially has had the most impact in Somalia whether You view that negatively or positively is up to You. Although I don't see any real influence the Arab League will ever play in Somalia in the future, it still doesn't hurt to keep the membership. Perhaps it could be a little tool to coax some funds in the future.

Murax,the arabs are not intermingling in somalia's because of their inept foreign politicy,and they dont have a desire to exploit somalia like the west and our african neighbors do.for instance,Ethiopia, aside from its political monopoly on somali politics dries out our economy of hard currencies through that cursed green leaves , and Uganda have done nothing but send trigger happy military merchants who shell our capital indiscriminately day in and day out and killed tens of thousands as a result.on the other hand,the arabs have brought in hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars into our local ecnomy through the trade of live animals and their charities.thus no comparison between the arabs and our regional neighbors.the arab play much better role and our membership in the arab league have been beneficial thus far.

Your thinking is grossly one-dimensional and the recent history of Somalia makes a mockery out of your crude assumptions. Somalia's biggest challenge today is religious radicalism and the threats posed by groups who are inspired, financed, trained and sustained by Arab ideologies. Somalia is today teeming with Arab Jihad-seekers and our country has been turned into Jihad factory where our people are being massacred and oppressed at will by Arab foreigners, meanwhile the Arab world sees Somalia as a dumping ground for its social rejects. Somalia is to the Arab radicalism what Bangalore is to Information Technology and our country's future has been hijacked by Arab Jihadists. I fail to see how someone can make themselves so oblivious to the facts and instead choose to deal with the most provincial of conspiracy theories.

Of course, Uganda and other regional countries are concerned with the situation in Somalia and they have every right and obligation to stand with the people of Somalia in their fight against religious radicalism simply because this menace threatens everyone in the region. As someone who actually hails from Mogadishu and has family members in the city, I for one hope and pray to see the day the AU troops defeat the terrorist network that terrorizes my people.

[gurey25]

roving the battle has already been lost,,
you are out of touch..
back home from ras kamboni to zeylac the majority have subscribed to that peculiar Saudi arabian version of islam that is now mainstream..

you and me are both strange outsiders,semi gaalo..(even if you pray all 5 salah and follow the sunna)
if you dont join in and at least look the part you will be nothing....

[RovingMadness]

roving the battle has already been lost,,
you are out of touch..
back home from ras kamboni to zeylac the majority have subscribed to that peculiar Saudi arabian version of islam that is now mainstream..

you and me are both strange outsiders,semi gaalo..(even if you pray all 5 salah and follow the sunna)
if you dont join in and at least look the part you will be nothing....

That's sadly true, but I don't think all hope is lost. Provided there is a visionary and competent leadership that understands what is at stake, I think alot can be redeemed, but it will take many sacrifices and courage and I am not sure these Islamists from the President to the Prime Minister to the Council of Ministers and the other weirdos that have ambitions of power have what it takes to steer this nation to a better path that is free from the Arab manipulations and experimentations with our people and land. One can only hope and pray, and that is what we do.

[samadoon-waaxid]

Come to think of it, it has become quite useless when You think of Somalis future. I think future Somali Statehood is most probably gonna have a heavy regional (Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda) influence and will probably be bankrolled financially by some combination of Western powers. Generally speaking I do not see any sort of inroads the Arab League Has made in Somalia, yet the African Union which is 500x weaker financially has had the most impact in Somalia whether You view that negatively or positively is up to You. Although I don't see any real influence the Arab League will ever play in Somalia in the future, it still doesn't hurt to keep the membership. Perhaps it could be a little tool to coax some funds in the future.

Murax,the arabs are not intermingling in somalia's because of their inept foreign politicy,and they dont have a desire to exploit somalia like the west and our african neighbors do.for instance,Ethiopia, aside from its political monopoly on somali politics dries out our economy of hard currencies through that cursed green leaves , and Uganda have done nothing but send trigger happy military merchants who shell our capital indiscriminately day in and day out and killed tens of thousands as a result.on the other hand,the arabs have brought in hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars into our local ecnomy through the trade of live animals and their charities.thus no comparison between the arabs and our regional neighbors.the arab play much better role and our membership in the arab league have been beneficial thus far.

Your thinking is grossly one-dimensional and the recent history of Somalia makes a mockery out of your crude assumptions. Somalia's biggest challenge today is religious radicalism and the threats posed by groups who are inspired, financed, trained and sustained by Arab ideologies. Somalia is today teeming with Arab Jihad-seekers and our country has been turned into Jihad factory where our people are being massacred and oppressed at will by Arab foreigners, meanwhile the Arab world sees Somalia as a dumping ground for its social rejects. Somalia is to the Arab radicalism what Bangalore is to Information Technology and our country's future has been hijacked by Arab Jihadists. I fail to see how someone can make themselves so oblivious to the facts and instead choose to deal with the most provincial of conspiracy theories.

Of course, Uganda and other regional countries are concerned with the situation in Somalia and they have every right and obligation to stand with the people of Somalia in their fight against religious radicalism simply because this menace threatens everyone in the region. As someone who actually hails from Mogadishu and has family members in the city, I for one hope and pray to see the day the AU troops defeat the terrorist network that terrorizes my people.

listen kiddo,you can blame the arabs all you want,but we all know that the greatest somali worlords were not saudi or yemani.they were hutu.not to mention the first Itihad military undertaking was sponsored by ur Godfather caydiidi.unless you wanna pretend moqdisho's missery started in 2006 with the arival of few disfranchised arab fighters then you really dont have a point.actually your point is sterile,and if you knew a thing or two about salafism (which you wrongly deem to be a saudi product) you would know they are the one that are blessing the saudi king with the religous legitimacy he ejoys,and they are the ones who outlawed coming out on protests and labeled it as a western product in Egypt as well.thus salafism has nothing to do with this militarism of al shabaab that you see.also,if arab islamists had any significant influence on somalia al-shabaab would have had a global agenda as oppose to a national one.the reality on the ground is that al-shabaab are fighting for a political cause and not a religous one.so dont try to give the somali version of jihaad any arab label.the two are far from each other.besides what do you call exteremism,according to your own definition? you do know somalia is not Kentucky where you can ban the sharia law right? walle it would be a cold day in hell before you,gurey25,and union dream about going back to somalia without being hunted for your semi-blasphemous rhetoric

[RovingMadness]

listen kiddo,you can blame the arabs all you want,but we all know that the greatest somali worlords were not saudi or yemani.they were hutu.not to mention the first Itihad military undertaking was sponsored by ur Godfather caydiidi.unless you wanna pretend moqdisho's missery started in 2006 with the arival of few disfranchised arab fighters then you really dont have a point.actually your point is sterile,and if you knew a thing or two about salafism (which you wrongly deem to be a saudi product) you would know they are the one that are blessing the saudi king with the religous legitimacy he ejoys,and they are the ones who outlawed coming out on protests and labeled it as a western product in Egypt as well.thus salafism has nothing to do with this militarism of al shabaab that you see.also,if arab islamists had any significant influence on somalia al-shabaab would have had a global agenda as oppose to a national one.the reality on the ground is that al-shabaab are fighting for a political cause and not a religous one.so dont try to give the somali version of jihaad any arab label.the two are far from each other.besides what do you call exteremism,according to your own definition? you do know somalia is not Kentucky where you can ban the sharia law right? walle it would be a cold day in hell before you,gurey25,and union dream about going back to somalia without being hunted for your semi-blasphemous rhetoric

For someone whose defining political cause in the 21st century is neo-colonialism by another clan, you sure do have alot of gall confidently talking about politics and social issues

Listen, Mr Macho-man, I don't know what gutter-hole you creeped out from, but the issue of religious radicalism started in Somalia in the late 70s and gained momentum in the 1980s as a result of increased Arab influence in Somalia. I don't know what you aim to achieve with your little denials but whatever your inspirations, you are not convincing anyone and am not even sure you are convincing yourself here. It is phony to allege that religious radicalism started in Somalia in 2006, for someone that throws around some weird historicism, you sure do suffer from a severe case of amnesia. Al Shabab was fathered and nurtured by Al Itixad, another terrorist organization that devastated Bari, Gedo and the Jubba Valley in the 1990s. Lol, Al Itixad actually fought against the USC in Kismayo and was instrumental in slowing down the USC momentum and bought time for the fleeing members of the regime. So, your little tirade of tying religious radicalism to Hawiye is both deluded and simply stupid, but then you are the one that runs around creating fascinating tales of Dhabshiil financing Al Shabab, so clearly you are someone that is not short of creativity.

The Arab World has made a very sinister pact with the Salafis whereby the Arab regime would allow the Salafis to recruit and experiment their ideas in far-off Muslim countries such as Somalia and Afghanistan in return for sending Arabian social rejects away. Whoever denied this? The Arab World is today teeming with all sorts of immoral and evil practices from open display of prostitution to blatant practice of homosexuality. Why is Osama Bin Laden and his death merchants not suicide-bombing Dubai and Beirut? Why are 100s suicide bombings being carried out in Somalia and Afghanistan while the Arab World is free from the filth cult of death they created? You are too moronic not to ask yourself these basic questions.

Al Shabab has clearly and openly stated on multiple occasions that it is jihad is international one that extends from Somalia, Solomon Islands, Alaska and Japan, and has even went as far as to burn the Somali flag at the first sight, good luck selling your expired eggs to someone else. This kiddo is not buying 'em.

[RovingMadness]

From 4:18 Abu Mansur clearly states the objectives and aims of Al Shabab and what they are fighting for. National struggle, my ass

[grandpakhalif]

I am Arab and my ancestor is Abdirahman bin Ishmael, whoever insults Arabs insults me.