ONLF should just give in and work within Federal Ethiopia.

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Murax, it is funny. I used to hate Ethiopians too but I have as much good Ethiopians friends as I do Somalis. I can honestly say I have meet less Ethiopians I disliked than I met Somalis. Wallahi they are generally a good people.
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Voltage wrote:Murax, it is funny. I used to hate Ethiopians too but I have as much good Ethiopians friends as I do Somalis. I can honestly say I have meet less Ethiopians I disliked than I met Somalis. Wallahi they are generally a good people.
Ethiopians are generally cool and friendly people...

...till they find out you're Somali
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xabashi asslicker gathering i see. Well im outta this thead.
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Coeus wrote:xabashi asslicker gathering i see. Well im outta this thead.
Horta have you ever met a Habesh person in your life? Get your head outta your ass, not all of them are for the genocide of Somalis. I know this may be a tough pill for you to swallow, but some are actually normal human beings...
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DawladSade wrote:
It is time to revive Jubbaland State of the Republic of Kenya again, we were so close last time. 8)
I see you voltage!!! 8-)
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those nice friendly people cut of somali girls breasts so that when they grow up and become moms they will not be able to breastfeed their kids. they castrate somali men so they won't be able to reproduce.
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Coeus wrote:If that is the case the all of Somalia should be given to Ethiopia. Since a people fighting for their survival and right to live in their ancestral lands without colonial intervention is "played out" according to you. Maybe we should forget the contribution the darwish made for Somalis, or the countless soldiers that died in the Ogaden war to free our fellow Somalis. Fuck yourself you deluted idiot.


If you do not have anything good to say about those fighting occupation and colonialism, then shut up.

:lol: :lol: :som: :up:

Long live ONLF.
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Archerr wrote:those nice friendly people cut of somali girls breasts so that when they grow up and become moms they will not be able to breastfeed their kids. they castrate somali men so they won't be able to reproduce.
Yup.

Fuk the habashi, ONLF keep up the fight :up:
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Archerr wrote:those nice friendly people cut of somali girls breasts so that when they grow up and become moms they will not be able to breastfeed their kids. they castrate somali men so they won't be able to reproduce.
...clearly you missed the part where I said "...till they find out you're Somali"

Get real, you're gonna hate a nation of 70 million because of atrocities committed by their military? If that's the case then all Americans must be evil beings because of what happened during Abu-Ghraib.
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The most respected and much celebrated member of this forum gone kuku :o

Real Federalism is to be considered as possible solutionby ogadenia though.
There is no meaning in having an angry 75 million strong ethiopia as neighbour: u will be like Puntland or somaliland!
or even divided according clans or subclans!
In a word u have to be much involved in ethiopian politics; I advise you to make alliance with the new generation amhara leaders!
The guys will give anything to be close to power, represent yourself as an asset for them in their long and deadly competition they will have with oromos!

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the armed resistance should be given up...

if the whole region wants independence, it can go straight to the constitution of Ethiopia where it says there is a political process for federal regions to want to break away

but sadly the guns is what our people only know
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FAH1223 wrote:the armed resistance should be given up...

if the whole region wants independence, it can go straight to the constitution of Ethiopia where it says there is a political process for federal regions to want to break away

but sadly the guns is what our people only know
Tried it more than once,the response was "hell no,heres a bullet".Have any of you ever read up on the history and what led to the current conflict :?:

After deliberating on the moves and intentions of EPRDF and understanding the choices put forth by EPRDF, the Ogaden people decided that it was unacceptable to succumb to the designs of EPRDF and forgo their quest for self-determination for which so much blood was shed and so many have suffered. The Ogaden Somali people were made to choose choice either relinquishing what they had fought for so long or to fight.


On 28 January 1994, at a press conference in Addis Ababa, ONLF called for referendum on Ogadeni self-determination. On 22 February 1994, a cold-blood massacre took place in the town of Wardheer, where more than 81 unarmed civilians were killed by TPLF militias, who tried to kill or capture alive the chairman of the ONLF, Mr. Ibrahim Abdalla Mohamed, who was addressing a peaceful rally in the centre of the town.


In February 1994, the regional assembly passed a unanimous resolution, in accordance with the Transitional Charter. It demanded a referendum on self-determination and independence for the Ogaden people under the auspices of international and regional bodies such as the United Nations, the Organisation of African Unity, the European Union, and other independent non-governmental organisations.


The EPRDF government reacted swiftly overthrowing and virtually disbanding all democratically elected institutions in the Ogaden, including the regional parliament. Like their predecessors, the president of the parliament, vice-president and several members of the parliament, were arrested and transferred to prisons in Addis Ababa. Mass arrests and indiscriminate killings took place.


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Voltage,

I understand where you are coming from.

I suspect as time goes on, more Ogadeen will start seeing themselves as Ethiopian-Somalians than as Somalis or Ogadenians. This has as much to do with ground realities as it does with psychology. I remember few years ago, it was rare to find a pro-Ethiopian Ogadeen whereas today there are thousands of them who support Ethiopia to the last drop. One only needs to see the videos of the recent Somali Region of Ethiopia aka Zone 5 to understand where these peoples' sympathizes lie. There were 10x more Ogadeen supporters of the Ethiopian government than there were of those protestors. As I recall only a dozen or so people bothered to show up to protest while the hall hosting the so-called Somali Region President was packed. Even celebrated mainstream Somali celebrities such as the gifted Nimco Dareen showed up to welcome the Ethiopian delegation.

Of course, politically for Somalia, this whole so-called Ogadeen Region has been drain and suicidal mission.
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The people you see showing up by the loads to clap for mr iley are non other than "inagaba waan idin la dagnaa dhulka",waa wax la wada ogyahay sxb all one has to do is go and read http://www.kilil5.com. There you will be able to see the truth.Funny how the only web with that name is owned by none Og's.This ship has sailed,nin seatle ama mn fadhiya oo raaxo ku nool waxba laga weydiin maayo.Naftiina ha dhibina gentlemen :up:
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new-york24 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:the armed resistance should be given up...

if the whole region wants independence, it can go straight to the constitution of Ethiopia where it says there is a political process for federal regions to want to break away

but sadly the guns is what our people only know
Tried it more than once,the response was "hell no,heres a bullet".Have any of you ever read up on the history and what led to the current conflict :?:
If they did, we wouldn't be having this discussion NY. :)
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