I met Congressman Keith Ellison at Jummah

[Enlightened~Sista]

Voltage, would you have supported such an intervention to topple the dictator Mohammed Siad Barre?

[*Nobleman*]

Go to Salaat right after voting to authorize the bombing of innocent Muslims in Libya. All in a day's work

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll493.xml

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13828762

Thats exactly why I dont show muslim politicians love. On one hand the canvas for muslim votes on the other hand they vote to bomb muslims abroad

The other Muslim congressman, Andre Carson, voted No

You can't paint everyone with the same brush bro! Stuff isn't as black and white as they seem.

Ruunti I am talking merely from a UK prespective, where we have MP's that will come to the masjid only during election time, canvas for Muslim votes and then vote across party lines to make Muslim peoples life even harder, both at home and abroad. If I honestly was going to ever vote i'd probably judge the candidate on merit and those that are most alligned with my personal beliefs as opposed to him just being Muslim. As proven time and time again Muslim mp's dont do shid for muslims.

[*Nobleman*]

If I was in Congress I would have voted to take Gaddafi out too. Nobleman ku lahaa this is why I don't vote for Muslim politicians. So the Muslims about to be massacred in Benghazi have a less claim to life than Gaddafi's mercenary army? Indha la'aa dadkaa.

I don't vote period. I just don't show them love, meaning I couldnt care less if he is muslim or gaal when he votes in parliament and they all vote the same way.

Secondly these revolutions as is happening in Libya, is not even permissible according to Ulema. This deserves a thread of its own.

Thirdly I don't believe in this propaganda we are fed. One day people are living in peace and the next day 'the brutal regime turn on their own people' , for absolutely no reason. All this fuss in the middle east is probably western funded. Regime change means bring the next puppet that we can control.

Lastly as ES said

Voltage, would you have supported such an intervention to topple the dictator Mohammed Siad Barre?

You know what they say, everyone has their favorite dictator. When evidence and accusation suggest both are very similar.

[LobsterUnit]

Nobleman, Ibn Baz and other Saudi Scholars made takfir on Gaddafi and declared him a kaffir some decades ago.

[Monsieur]

[kadarre]

thats why i put the flag there. to show the irony.

[IRONm@N]

What are these idiots talking about. Gaddafi is a mass murder tyrant, and any good muslim will take him out. same also for Bashir al assad, Mubarak and Ali salah, there is nothing Islam about these murders that rob and rape the resources of the country, and use their army to terrorise the weak.

[gurey25]

down with all brutal dictators.

Seemyer if you support Qaddafi against the rebels, you should apologize for being against siyad barre..

[Hyperactive]

down with all brutal dictators.

Seemyer if you support Qaddafi against the rebels, you should apologize for being against siyad barre..

good point. i dont think he is supporting dictator ghadaffi but he doesnt want others who have different agenda than rebels, not necessary care about the innocent people, who involved it.

knowing arabs or 3rd word mentality, some one worse than him will come. dadka an la nool nahay, concept of human rights and dignity ba ka maqan. very hard hearten people who make excuses to abusive any one who goes against them.

[grandpakhalif]

I see that you're besides yourself but there's no need to throw a fit brother, From what I understood of your little rant about justice, you're saying that the innocent life lost in Tripoli this past week from Nato's bombardment was to save the one that Qaddaffi may have killed (had Nato not intervened) or is it to atone for the countless ones he took over the past forty years. A just war is synonymous with jihaad. Therefore, Nato's campaign in Libya being

an obligation...religiously speaking

would make its forces a bunch of Mujahideens No wonder your so quick to anger. the hubris of an empty mind.

I'm just about bored with this little buryo measuring contest that passes for a battle of wits. A good night to you brother

Wallahi you karbaashed this uncle tom

[ToughGong]

down with all brutal dictators.

Seemyer if you support Qaddafi against the rebels, you should apologize for being against siyad barre..

Gurey how can I support a dictator ninyaho maad waalantahey
I'm just saying the hypocracy of the so called "International community" knows no bounds
The US is the biggest supportet of the dictator of of Turkmenistan (a dictator par exellance)
The man that re-named the months of the year after his family

[Basra-]

Keith is gay.

[Voltage]

Voltage, would you have supported such an intervention to topple the dictator Mohammed Siad Barre?

No, and here is why. Was Siad Barre an autocrat towards the end of his reign? Yes. Could people have legitimate reasons for fighting against him? Yes. However, when you had SSDF (Majerten), SNM (Isaaq), USC (Hawiye), etc fighting against him on tribal basis then that outcome would be clear, it is an internal fractious matter that should not be interfered with. Anytime you see people advocate for their nation on a sectarian basis, then they would try to govern in a sectarian manner which would lead to instability and maybe even something worse than the autocrat.

It is the same reason why I would have also supported intervention in Egypt and Tunisia but would not for a second support any sort of interference in Syria, Yemen, or Bahrain. Ironically enough my position could be construed as to be similar to the current US foreign policy on the Arab Spring but that is only because we came to the same conclusion.

Egypt, Tunisia, Libya a whole populace rose up with one voice against their autocrats and they should be supported to achieve their united aspirations. What we see in Syria or Bahrain or Yemen is exactly sectarian division and just as much detractors Hafiz Assad has in Syria he has supporters and interference would lead to civil war and sectarian instability.

[Enlightened~Sista]

No?..expected you'd say that, I didn't bother reading the rest.Very hypocritical of you.

[Voltage]

Somalis can be so simpleminded.