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if the quran is not interpreted literally, then how should it be interpreted? by picking and choosing what you like?

Naboleon wrote:if the quran is not interpreted literally, then how should it be interpreted? by picking and choosing what you like?

Go ask your sheikh.

BlackVelvet wrote:

Naboleon wrote:if the quran is not interpreted literally, then how should it be interpreted? by picking and choosing what you like?

Go ask your sheikh.

my shiekh? does everyone have their own shiekh now like a therapist. since you agreed with unions statement, care to explain why?

Naboleon, the Quran should be considered a moral and spiritual guidance revealed to a backward society. We can garner wisdom from it, but we should understand it was not revealed to a soceity with the realities of today. Those of us who believe the Quran to be a scientific document that trumps commonsense are mistaken.

BlackVelvet wrote:

union wrote:

BlackVelvet wrote:You have become a very controversial figure.

These people surely must be overreacting

You believe:

1. In secular governance
2. That homosexual activity is a sin but it doesn't make one a kaafir
3. I am guessing not fond of SLand and PLand


Am I missing something?

4. The Quran should not be interpreted literally.
5. Radical religion should be fought with harsh measures.
6. Somalis should return to their Sufi Islam heritage and reject wahabism and the deviant sects of the gulf.

If that is all I don't see why you should be marginalised or banned. The first two are pretty much common sense, the last one is personal opinion shared by other people on SNet.

How peculiar.

To be honest, I was probably banned for posting a vulgar image towards a female member of this forum. It was a mistake and in hindsight I probably would have not done it. I commend the administration of this forum for allowing dissenting voices to be heard, as proven by my nearly two year long membership and upwards of 3,000 posts. No one should be banned for expressing any point of view.

permanent ban turned out to be few hours,

Saas i dheh bal, I was beginning to get concerned about SNet.


Now that you have admitted the truth. BAN THE SOD!!!!!

Vulgarity and probably sexist material will not be tolerated!

You should be worried about the makeup of the modship though. If a certain two rise to adminship I believe dissenting voices will be killed.

Naboleon wrote:

BlackVelvet wrote:

Naboleon wrote:if the quran is not interpreted literally, then how should it be interpreted? by picking and choosing what you like?

Go ask your sheikh.

my shiekh? does everyone have their own shiekh now like a therapist. since you agreed with unions statement, care to explain why?

I genuinely find it taxing to debate with you when your Nick has a typo, wittingly or unwittingly.

Anyway, your sheikh = your local sheikh at your local mosque. Unless you want the address of my local sheikh?

As to your question, it would make sense to ask your sheikh more so than I because he is the one who is studying Islam and the Quran. You can ask him why he bothers since it is all so straight forward to you.

You can read the Quran and have your own very personal understanding and therefore relationship with God however to get a deeper more pertinent understanding most people go to a sheikh or calim who have themselves spent years studying the subject.

union wrote:Naboleon, the Quran should be considered a moral and spiritual guidance revealed to a backward society. We can garner wisdom from it, but we should understand it was not revealed to a society with the realities of today. Those of us who believe the Quran to be a scientific document that trumps commonsense are mistaken.

So you believe the quran like a windows software should be updated according to the time period? why believe in parts of it and not all of it or none of it?

The quran might have been revealed to a backward society, but its wisdom is timeless and it was for an ideal muslim society. Technology might be different, but the people are generally the same and the quran provides a set of laws, code of conduct that all muslims should abide by. Whether you choose to follow them is of course completely up to you, but don't try to misinterpret it for your own purposes.

I’m sorry, but I haven’t seen an "ideal Muslim society" that’s been ruled by religious law for the past thousand years. Have you?

Let me know when it comes about, until then I’ll stick with secular governance that has a proven track record for success.

union wrote:Naboleon, the Quran should be considered a moral and spiritual guidance revealed to a backward society. We can garner wisdom from it, but we should understand it was not revealed to a soceity with the realities of today. Those of us who believe the Quran to be a scientific document that trumps commonsense are mistaken.

Wrong. The Qur'an was revealed to ALL mankind for ALL time. Allah protects his book until the day of judgment.

The Qur'an isn't a science book, but to just dismiss the Qur'an as some book that should be discarded as humanity advances with new technology and science is outright dumb.

union wrote:


You should be worried about the makeup of the modship though. If a certain two rise to adminship I believe dissenting voices will be killed.

SNetters in general tend to have a cult mentality. Pick out the ones perceived to be weak who stray from the norm and swiftly commence a mob attack.

blackvelvet

the question was directed at union, don't give yourself unnecessary headache sister. if you make a blanket statement regarding the diin, the least you can do is explain why.

if the misspelling of napoleon bothers you that much, ignore the name or pretend there is a p there, i could care less. just don't get your panties in a knot.

FAH1223 wrote:

union wrote:Naboleon, the Quran should be considered a moral and spiritual guidance revealed to a backward society. We can garner wisdom from it, but we should understand it was not revealed to a soceity with the realities of today. Those of us who believe the Quran to be a scientific document that trumps commonsense are mistaken.

Wrong. The Qur'an was revealed to ALL mankind for ALL time. Allah protects his book until the day of judgment.

The Qur'an isn't a science book, but to just dismiss the Qur'an as some book that should be discarded as humanity advances with new technology and science is outright dumb.

I never said the Quran should be discarded.

Also, the Quran is open for interpretation and I believe my stance is the correct one and perfectly consistent with Islam.