Sahro Maxamed Cali Samatar appreciation THREAD

[Coeus]

Is she the one married to the African American dude or is that another daughter? Personally I don't think a woman married to a non-Somali man should be allowed to hold office in Somalia.

On what grounds can you deny a Somali citizen the right to hold office in her own country?

She is raised in the US in a upperclass home, her father ali samatar a murderer and a relativly rich man who together with the other top officials often took more then their official salaries. She was raised on the money from the public in Somalia, stolen by her dad.

Then she comes back to Somalia to be part of a goverment that has reconciliation as a priority. Does this sound logic to you? Should we laso give Morgan the defence minister job and send him to Hargeisa for reconciliation?

Some people and their families should never ever come close to the Somali goverment. If Somalia is gonna move on and develop, we cant have this family from the 70s coming back and giving their children goverment posts.

[DropkickMurphy]

Is she the one married to the African American dude or is that another daughter? Personally I don't think a woman married to a non-Somali man should be allowed to hold office in Somalia.

On what grounds can you deny a Somali citizen the right to hold office in her own country?

What parts of I think did you miss? Laws are made and if I had the power that would be a law I would institute.

[Coeus]

Coeus, Hargeisa was also settled by yibirs, gadabuursi, ogadens, dhulbahante infact you could find any tribes, since Hargeisa was made the second capital of Somalia, and during those war times the non-isaaq's were killed and displaced by SNM rebels. Don'y forget that SNM attacked Borama which is a Gadabursi town, what other options did the government had. Don't assume the government didn't try using politics to solve it before war, where Siyad Barre appointed many Isaaq's in the government and he even visted North Somalia places like Berbera. Also don't forget SNM attacked weak villages in the Somali galbeed border with North Somalia, seriously other than bombing SNM what other option were there other than poltically giving them extra seats, don't forget Isaaq are not the only tribe in Nort Somalia we have so many tribes such as Dhulbahante, Warsangali, Samaroon, Ciise, Yibir, Tumaalo, Shiekhaal etc. Why didn't these tribes form a rebel group?

Ximaan listen man. Hargeisa is a full Isaaq city like Burco and Berbera. These were the places bombed. Even Somali pilots didnt want to bomb Hargeisa, Siad barre had to hire white people to fly the air planes. The drinking water in Hargeisa got Poisioned by the goverment also. The people who buried their belongings on the ground before they left hargeisa, came back with bombs instead of belongings on the ground. Ogaden that came to live in Hargeisa was planned by Siad barre to settle them there because of his hate for Isaaqs, we know that already. Yibir and all these miniorities were not killed by SNM. Or else they would not be loving Somaliland and be celebrating with SNM veterans. Gudabuursi was also not attacked by SNM, or else gudabuursi would be against Somaliland and the SNM.

Saaxib you cannot scream Unity and qaraan, when it is the same people and their family coming back to the goverment seats. You want unity? Then understand that certain people dont deserve to govern Somalia.

[TheblueNwhite]

Did she kill anyone? no
Is she a Somali citizen? yes
Did she choose her father to be Samatar? no

Wasn't Mohamed Siyad's son a presidential candidate not long ago?

What are you smoking son? Khalif Galeyr who stole millions from Somalia and left 2500+ out of a job was made PM, and Sahra who didn't steal a cent can't work for the government according to you because her hubby happens to be a non Somali and her dad's name is Samatar? GTHO

Drop- I'm glad you will never have that power.

[Estarix]

Coes@
From what i know and read the Jets were South African and the pilots were Somalis.
Where did you find the info that the pilots were South African.

[Coeus]

Did she kill anyone? no
Is she a Somali citizen? yes
Did she choose her father to be Samatar? no

Wasn't Mohamed Siyad's son a presidential candidate not long ago?

What are you smoking son? Khalif Galeyr who stole millions from Somalia and left 2500+ out of a job was made PM, and Sahra who didn't steal a cent can't work for the government according to you because her hubby happens to be a non Somali? GTHO

Drop- I'm glad you will never have that power.

That kind of desicions are hurtful for the reconiciliation of Somalis from both North and South.

[tightrope]

Coeus, he has ordered the SNM rebels to be killed, we shouldn't blame him for SNM hiding in residents homes and neighborhoods like cowards. SNM were the only coward rebel group in Somali history, instead of battling with their opponents in military bases they rather go to places where the ordinary people live. I know my history well, and I won't believe in these fabricated stories, the only people that accuse the guy of crimes are the Isaaq tribe, why don't other tribes that lived in the same neighborhoods with Isaaqs accuse him. If a variety of clans accuse him, then the stories would had been less biased. Throughout his time in the government general mohamed ali did so many good things, and I won't ignore them for a fabricated story. Regards to your question, would I ever appoint any of his family member for governmental post, I would if the person is qualified for that post.

USHEEG

Look at this xoolo, thousands upon thousands Majerteen got starved to death by Siad barre regime and your giving thumbs up to his cabinet.

I'M AGREED WITH XIMAN THAT SNM ARE COWARDS WHO ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CIVILIAN DEATHS IN HARGEISA!

[DropkickMurphy]

Drop- I'm glad you will never have that power.

You never know man. But you know what? I kind of hope I never do. I don't want the responsibility that comes with having that kind of a power. I would not mind someone else carrying out the kinds of things I like to see happen though.

[Coeus]

Coes@
From what i know and read the Jets were South African and the pilots were Somalis.
Where did you find the info that the pilots were South African.

Actually none of them were South africans, they were Rhodesians from present Zimbabwe

According to Amnesty International several thousand civilians were killed when SNM-held areas were bombed by Somali Air Force pilots. One Somali Air Force pilot defected to Djibouti in July, saying that he was refusing to obey orders to bomb civilian targets in the North. Thousands more civilians from Hargeisa were deliberately killed by artillery bombardment as they fled towards the Ethiopian border to escape from the fighting and killings in the city.

"Ex-Rhodesian air force pilots who now hold South African or British passports piloted the Hawker Hunters have been far more dangerous and effective than the silver-coloured Somali piloted Migs."

[Coeus]

I'M AGREED WITH XIMAN THAT SNM ARE COWARDS WHO ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CIVILIAN DEATHS IN HARGEISA!

Do you have any factual proof that SNM killed innocent civilians? Provide facts.

[TheblueNwhite]

Don't come here with this North South bull crap. If they really hate the regime, they wouldn't elect Riyaale, the highest ranking NSS oficial for Barre to lead SL for 8 years.

If Riyaale can be forgiven so can everyone else that worked under Barre. Lets cut the bullshit here.

[Coeus]

Don't come here with this North South bull crap. If they really hate the regime, they wouldn't elect Riyaale, the highest ranking NSS oficial for Barre to lead SL for 8 years.

If Riyaale can be forgiven so can everyone else that worked under Barre. Lets cut the bullshit here.

Riyaale wasnt elected, he was assured presidency by Igaal. Many people became tired of Riyaales corruption and indeed after 8 years they were fed up with his incompetence. And are you insuniating that they dont hate the former regime?

[ZubeirAwal]

SNM cowards, do you know us isaaqs did the first ever somali coup in history?
"The officers included Abdullah Saeed Abbi, Mohammed Ahmed, Hassan Kayd and many other officers. The government imprisoned all those officers involved in the coup and later released them to participate in 1964 war with Ethiopia. Somalia had no military forces equivalent to the jailed officers."
however hargeisa was a full isaaq city,and i don't give 2 fucks what you say ximan, my father and grandfather fought in that war, and wallahi did they fight for something

[Knight of Wisdom]

Don't come here with this North South bull crap. If they really hate the regime, they wouldn't elect Riyaale, the highest ranking NSS oficial for Barre to lead SL for 8 years.

If Riyaale can be forgiven so can everyone else that worked under Barre. Lets cut the bullshit here.

The question is....What did Siyaad Barre's government did, that needs to be forgiven about? If any REBEL movement attacks a city and captures it, any Government would counter-attack the city to reclaim it by all means necessary.

[XimanJaale]

Coeus, don't you support TFG? Aren't they bombing and throwing rockets to Al-Shabaab, in order to free the city from terrorist rebels, and where are al-shabaab hiding? In residents homes, businesses and neighborhoods right? So why can't Siyaad Barre do the same? Never ever think that Siyaad Barre hated your tribe, he was obessed with nationalism and was against the rise of rebel group, and General Mohamed Ali was working for him to secure the rebel infested places in the North.