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[quote="Kamal35"]I said that you are not good muslim since you started insulting non muslim. Point 1.
-I'm a human being. I make mistakes. Get over it.-
If you want to be a good muslim, start studying atheism, Karl Marx, Niezstche, muslim philosophers of Al-Andalus, and then refutating them word by word, sentence by sentence. That's point 2.
-Read my second post. I assume you haven't since you wouldn't be saying the above, if you had.-
Being a good muslim is not parroting hadiths or Al Quran, but explaining it at the proper moment, in a given moment. That's called knowledgement. That's point 3.
-Being a good Muslim is following the word of Al-Quran and the Sunnah, in the best way, and of course fulfilling lofe's purpose with is worshipping Allah,-
Insulting people from other beliefs just because they have other beliefs is not a proof of intelligence, but a proof of stupidity. Re-read Al Quran once and again and you will find how Al Quran is saying once and again: be respecful, be nice, be humble, be paceful. It seems that it doesn't fit with you. That's point 4.
-I am humble and peaceful, with someone who is the same. There are n humble or peaceful non Muslims on this website-
Someone critizising Islam is not an enemy of Islam. It's just someone critizising a belief. The reaction of a good muslim, instead killing him or felt insulting by him, should be trying to discuss with him with good manners and trying to convince. That's point 5. I can critizise Islam in the same way you can critizise Nietzsche. But believe me: I wouldn't kill you if you critizising Nietszche. I would only discuss with you and I would try to convince you. Not to kill you.
-Everyone, from what I have seen has tried to show you the right way. Maybe they are fed up. You can't beat a dead horse. Especially not more than once. Oh, and the other day you threatened to kill me. Very peaceful of you!-
Some interesting people, muslim people here, have spent more than two years discussing about everything: Some of them are muslim, other ones we are not muslims. We never had a problem discussing each others. Viking, Mowhawk, Mad Mac, Basra, me, The Law26, Gurey25. There's not a problem: we discuss about Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan. Nobody feels offended if someone is not muslim. Ask to Mowhawk if he feels offended because Mad Mac is an American soldier.
-I'm not offended by non Muslims. And still after two years you don't get it. That's not any nastyness speaking, I'm just saying it like I see it.-
We all have our points of view and we discuss. But people like you make this place a mess when you start with the shit of "Kaffirs", "non muslim" and the rest of the shit. That's point 6.
-If you are not Muslim you are not Muslim. Don't cry about it.-
Flooding this site, General-General Discussions, which has nothing to do with "Islam Discussion", when you could go and post, without any interference, in the Islam Section, is point 7. It's ok you can bring here, to General-General Discussions Islamic issues. We are talking here about Somalia, and Somalia is a Islamic country.
-I'm glad you acknowledge that Somalia is an Islamic country! I give you a point for that-
But bringing here islamic issues all the time, when you have a specific section for islamic issues, I think it's abussive. Just imagine if Mad Mac brought here a USA company and their families talking about how great the Americans soldiers were in Somalia. They have a web page for that, called BHD93: you can visit it. Even Mad Mac doesn't visit it. And Biko and me visited it and were banned because some jokes.
-Mad Mac is not Somali, nor Muslim. Why are you bringing him up?-
Look: If you're angry against something, Europe, the West, USA, just say it. If you want Islam to rule the world, just say it. But don't flood some spaces in which some muslims and some westerners are trying to find a way to talk to each others, and to respect to each others and to learn from eatch others. That's all.
You'll find really hard discussions, really hard controversies. But deal with it.
But you're a not a good muslim. Why? Because you don't allow people who is not muslim to express their ideas.
Think about it.[/quote]
You are not in any position to judge me.
No one is.
Think about it.
-I'm a human being. I make mistakes. Get over it.-
If you want to be a good muslim, start studying atheism, Karl Marx, Niezstche, muslim philosophers of Al-Andalus, and then refutating them word by word, sentence by sentence. That's point 2.
-Read my second post. I assume you haven't since you wouldn't be saying the above, if you had.-
Being a good muslim is not parroting hadiths or Al Quran, but explaining it at the proper moment, in a given moment. That's called knowledgement. That's point 3.
-Being a good Muslim is following the word of Al-Quran and the Sunnah, in the best way, and of course fulfilling lofe's purpose with is worshipping Allah,-
Insulting people from other beliefs just because they have other beliefs is not a proof of intelligence, but a proof of stupidity. Re-read Al Quran once and again and you will find how Al Quran is saying once and again: be respecful, be nice, be humble, be paceful. It seems that it doesn't fit with you. That's point 4.
-I am humble and peaceful, with someone who is the same. There are n humble or peaceful non Muslims on this website-
Someone critizising Islam is not an enemy of Islam. It's just someone critizising a belief. The reaction of a good muslim, instead killing him or felt insulting by him, should be trying to discuss with him with good manners and trying to convince. That's point 5. I can critizise Islam in the same way you can critizise Nietzsche. But believe me: I wouldn't kill you if you critizising Nietszche. I would only discuss with you and I would try to convince you. Not to kill you.
-Everyone, from what I have seen has tried to show you the right way. Maybe they are fed up. You can't beat a dead horse. Especially not more than once. Oh, and the other day you threatened to kill me. Very peaceful of you!-
Some interesting people, muslim people here, have spent more than two years discussing about everything: Some of them are muslim, other ones we are not muslims. We never had a problem discussing each others. Viking, Mowhawk, Mad Mac, Basra, me, The Law26, Gurey25. There's not a problem: we discuss about Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan. Nobody feels offended if someone is not muslim. Ask to Mowhawk if he feels offended because Mad Mac is an American soldier.
-I'm not offended by non Muslims. And still after two years you don't get it. That's not any nastyness speaking, I'm just saying it like I see it.-
We all have our points of view and we discuss. But people like you make this place a mess when you start with the shit of "Kaffirs", "non muslim" and the rest of the shit. That's point 6.
-If you are not Muslim you are not Muslim. Don't cry about it.-
Flooding this site, General-General Discussions, which has nothing to do with "Islam Discussion", when you could go and post, without any interference, in the Islam Section, is point 7. It's ok you can bring here, to General-General Discussions Islamic issues. We are talking here about Somalia, and Somalia is a Islamic country.
-I'm glad you acknowledge that Somalia is an Islamic country! I give you a point for that-
But bringing here islamic issues all the time, when you have a specific section for islamic issues, I think it's abussive. Just imagine if Mad Mac brought here a USA company and their families talking about how great the Americans soldiers were in Somalia. They have a web page for that, called BHD93: you can visit it. Even Mad Mac doesn't visit it. And Biko and me visited it and were banned because some jokes.
-Mad Mac is not Somali, nor Muslim. Why are you bringing him up?-
Look: If you're angry against something, Europe, the West, USA, just say it. If you want Islam to rule the world, just say it. But don't flood some spaces in which some muslims and some westerners are trying to find a way to talk to each others, and to respect to each others and to learn from eatch others. That's all.
You'll find really hard discussions, really hard controversies. But deal with it.
But you're a not a good muslim. Why? Because you don't allow people who is not muslim to express their ideas.
Think about it.[/quote]
You are not in any position to judge me.
No one is.
Think about it.
[quote="raindance"]Brother,
If you are going to things like this: 'your assuming are atheist aren't indeed atheists, you conclude anyone who's not Muslim a atheist??????' please provide some back up, or quote me.
Not every non Muslim is an atheist, of course. Anyone with half a brain knows that. There are Christians and Jews, who also believe in God.
BTW: You sound a lot like FULL_MOON, especially with all the words you are getting from thesaurus.com. There is a difference between using everyday words, that sound intelligent and replacing every word with something else. NOW, you can say I am assuming, but I have back up.
'more you apprehend and perceive for there point of view, If we were to matriculate from one another the less castigation we would have. '
This can be understood, but in English, you can't replace every word with something you find on a thesaurus website.
The meaning is the same but it sounds different. Eg:
'My house is in a busy area'
'My abode is steadfast in a fussy principality.'
[/quote]
Perceive me as who ever you want, But your in no position to call me anyone, I said what I've articulated I see you can't handle criticism, What I've said wasn't near criticism. loooooool at thesaurus website don't prejudice others that surpass your comprehension.
If you are going to things like this: 'your assuming are atheist aren't indeed atheists, you conclude anyone who's not Muslim a atheist??????' please provide some back up, or quote me.
Not every non Muslim is an atheist, of course. Anyone with half a brain knows that. There are Christians and Jews, who also believe in God.
BTW: You sound a lot like FULL_MOON, especially with all the words you are getting from thesaurus.com. There is a difference between using everyday words, that sound intelligent and replacing every word with something else. NOW, you can say I am assuming, but I have back up.
'more you apprehend and perceive for there point of view, If we were to matriculate from one another the less castigation we would have. '
This can be understood, but in English, you can't replace every word with something you find on a thesaurus website.
The meaning is the same but it sounds different. Eg:
'My house is in a busy area'
'My abode is steadfast in a fussy principality.'

Perceive me as who ever you want, But your in no position to call me anyone, I said what I've articulated I see you can't handle criticism, What I've said wasn't near criticism. loooooool at thesaurus website don't prejudice others that surpass your comprehension.
Brother BOO,
Why would you say 'perceive as whoever you want' and then say 'but you are in no position you call me anyone...
It's like saying 'you can slap me... but you can't touch me'...
I wasn't bothered by what you said, just bothered that you didn't have any back-up, and none of it rang true.
Everyone knows that not all non Muslim are atheists..
I handle criticism well.. I get criticised all the time, and take it with a grain of salt. This is only the internet.
Why would you say 'perceive as whoever you want' and then say 'but you are in no position you call me anyone...

It's like saying 'you can slap me... but you can't touch me'...
I wasn't bothered by what you said, just bothered that you didn't have any back-up, and none of it rang true.
Everyone knows that not all non Muslim are atheists..
I handle criticism well.. I get criticised all the time, and take it with a grain of salt. This is only the internet.
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[quote="optimist_1"]Dhuusa and kamal no purpose of life?
How dare they to critisize Islam[/quote]
are you dyslexic or do you problem comprehending simple prose? I said I DO have purpose to my life. I simply don't believe there is A purpose of life.



How dare they to critisize Islam[/quote]
are you dyslexic or do you problem comprehending simple prose? I said I DO have purpose to my life. I simply don't believe there is A purpose of life.
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[quote="raindance"]
From what I see atheism is about doing whatever you want, and not worrying about the consequences. If I'm wrong then show me.[/quote]
Familiar with the logical fallacy Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam? I've noticed you talk alot from ignorance.
Do you see atheist any less conformist with laws of the nations they reside then theist? I don't. As an atheist, I can't just do what I want. Only what society permits I can do.
I'm sure you theists worry about the consequencies of what you do with all the atrocities you have committed in human history!
From what I see atheism is about doing whatever you want, and not worrying about the consequences. If I'm wrong then show me.[/quote]
Familiar with the logical fallacy Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam? I've noticed you talk alot from ignorance.
Do you see atheist any less conformist with laws of the nations they reside then theist? I don't. As an atheist, I can't just do what I want. Only what society permits I can do.
I'm sure you theists worry about the consequencies of what you do with all the atrocities you have committed in human history!
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[quote="raindance"]DD,
Chill and relax.
Atheists are cool people, not uptight or dorky at all. If I'm ignorant it's because atheism isn't that important to study about.
I mean seriously, I need to know only a certain amount. I'm not going to study it in uni
[/quote]
thanks for totally ignoring the legit points raised in my posted that exposed for the ignorant, judgemental person you are.
Who gives shit what you consider important or what you plan to study. Stop insulting or making prejudiced statements about entire ppl.
Your question showed beyond retarded level stupidity. Nacas!
Chill and relax.
Atheists are cool people, not uptight or dorky at all. If I'm ignorant it's because atheism isn't that important to study about.
I mean seriously, I need to know only a certain amount. I'm not going to study it in uni

thanks for totally ignoring the legit points raised in my posted that exposed for the ignorant, judgemental person you are.
Who gives shit what you consider important or what you plan to study. Stop insulting or making prejudiced statements about entire ppl.
Your question showed beyond retarded level stupidity. Nacas!
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[quote="intellex"]DD i might me be not perfect in english , however i dont paste and cut what others wrote and act like a linguistic ,
i would have respected if you had your own i dea and goals and you call me incoherent
please niggro[/quote]
huh
more confused
its not about knowing english, put your thought process. you make no sense at all. try little harder next time you write. being sober will help too.
i would have respected if you had your own i dea and goals and you call me incoherent


huh

its not about knowing english, put your thought process. you make no sense at all. try little harder next time you write. being sober will help too.
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