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Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:23 pm
by 934
Hussein53 wrote:
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
Hussein53 wrote:Ibliss may ALLAH curse him is a Kafir, because a kafir is someone who hides the truth.

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I DONT UNDERSTAND why you curse mr sheeydaan. it's not enough that mr sheydaan is going to hell after this world.
sheeydaans needs some compasion because hes going to deepest naar no matter what.
I dont consider you and union muslim ok, so please don't respond to me.
Your comments are revolting and your pro shaydan and anti ALLAH stance sickens me.
I thought i was alone in thinking the same thing. Dr yalaxoow is anything but muslim.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:25 pm
by Saraxnow
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:there are hadiith which says sheeydaan look like a black man whit rastafare hair.
waligiin ma maqasheen waxaas??

NO. That sounds wrong. Iblis was a jinn. Jinns vary in their strength and abilities. Some are strong some are weak etc. Some are Muslims some are Non-Muslims, some have families some do not. Some speak English some speak Chinese etc. based on where they live.

The bad ones are 'Shaytaan' as they are the followers of Iblis who is their leader. There are also humans that are Shaytaan-like because they follow Shaytaan/Iblis.

You dont blame Shaytaan for everything you do because you have a will to either follow the good path or the wrong path.

@ Emperior, basically Iblis the accursed one, is arrogant and because he knows he is going to hell is jealous of humans and would like to take as many as he can too. He was given permission by Allah as he begged Allah to give him time. Basically Allah said that you cannot harm my slaves(the good ones) but you a limited time to stay just as we (humans) do.


Now lets find something else to talk about ..like some ducas like BV suggested?

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:27 pm
by gurey25
Yalaxow jinss are made of smokeless fire, (probably plasma) and they vary in power
Iblis bieng one of the oldest is very powerfull..

I am pretty sure if he wanted to he could appear as a blonde swedish girl and seduce you right now..

:lol: :lol:

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:30 pm
by Saraxnow
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:.

And why isn't it possible for shaytaan to become a believer
thats good question. there is one former islamic sect who are not any more part of ISlam. . its called YAZIIDIYIIN, THAT religions people who practise believe same as we muslims do whichs sheeydaan was thrown away from paradise after he refused to make sujuuud for adam. but different the yaziidiyiin in IRAK believe is sheeydaan was forgiven after thousend of years and sheeydaan was reinstated back for hes former titel which was MaLAAIKNIMO.

Thats yazidiiyiin religion. yazidiiyiin live in Irak some historian say that they come from YAZIID bin mucaawiya.

False. Many people think that, but he was NEVER a Malak or an Angel.

An Angel Mr yalax, does not have will-power they cannot choose for themselves what to do, they simply fulfill commands and have a special different creation.

Iblis was a before a obedient Jinn who had some powers. He disobeyed due to Pride and Arrogance and in Jannah, you cannot stay with pride in your heart. Only Allah is worthy of praise not some creature.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:31 pm
by Saraxnow
gurey25 wrote:Yalaxow jinss are made of smokeless fire, (probably plasma) and they vary in power
Iblis bieng one of the oldest is very powerfull..

I am pretty sure if he wanted to he could appear as a blonde swedish girl and seduce you right now..

:lol: :lol:
What the?...lol

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:34 pm
by abdikarim86
I think Shaytaan/Satan obviously knows God exists and probably even acknowledges the power of God.

It's his arrogance and pride which lead him astray the story goes not kafirnimo or shirk.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:46 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
gurey25 wrote:
I am pretty sure if he wanted to he could appear as a blonde swedish girl and seduce you right now..

:lol: :lol:
i see daily fine blond swedhish bajaq :up: iam 100% sure those naago swdhish are humans like me and are not sheeydaan appearing as human .
but if they(naag swdhish) come to me naked then i will not use as scapegoat mr sheeydaaanoos. i plead guilty every think i do against those fine in my dream(naag) wether shes swedhish or not.

iam sure you would do same as i.

people use as a scapegoat mr sheeydaan.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:11 pm
by DisplacedDiraac
BlackVelvet wrote: You know the prayers "rabana aatina fii dunya xasanatan...." do you guys know these off the top of your head? How many? Do you make a point of trying to learn them?
Which ones? The ones before and after prayer?

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:31 pm
by Mr_Alfaas
abdikarim86 wrote:I think Shaytaan/Satan obviously knows God exists and probably even acknowledges the power of God.

It's his arrogance and pride which lead him astray the story goes not kafirnimo or shirk.
Surah Acraaf

11. And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam", and they prostrated, except Iblis (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrate.

12. (Allah) said: "What prevented you (O Iblis) that you did not prostrate, when I commanded you?" Iblis said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay."

13. (Allah) said: "(O Iblis) get down from this (Paradise), it is not for you to be arrogant here. Get out, for you are of those humiliated and disgraced."

14. (Iblis) said: "Allow me respite till the Day they are raised up (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."

15. (Allah) said: "You are of those allowed respite."

16. (Iblis) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path.

17. Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)."

18. (Allah) said (to Iblis) "Get out from this (Paradise) disgraced and expelled. Whoever of them (mankind) will follow you, then surely I will fill Hell with you all."


Surah Al xijr

So, the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together.

31. Except Iblis (Satan), - he refused to be among the prostrators.

32. (Allah) said: "O Iblis (Satan)! What is your reason for not being among the prostrators?"

33. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "I am not the one to prostrate myself to a human being, whom You created from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud."

34. (Allah) said: "Then, get out from here, for verily, you are Rajim (an outcast or a cursed one)." [Tafsir At-Tabari]

35. "And verily, the curse shall be upon you till the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."

36. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Give me then respite till the Day they (the dead) will be resurrected."

37. Allah said: "Then, verily, you are of those reprieved,

38. "Till the Day of the time appointed."

39. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Because you misled me, I shall indeed adorn the path of error for them (mankind) on the earth, and I shall mislead them all.



Ibliisku wax kasta wuu yaqana ee diidmadu diiday in u Nabi Adam u sujuudo aya waxa ku sababay KIBIR IYO ISLA WEYNI, :down:

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:47 pm
by Cinque Mtume
ciyaal_warta wrote:
well sometimes too much knowledge will give u arrogance and pride that was the case of ibliis ...do u know ibliis was PoW and he very religious jini !!
Bullshit. Ignorance leads to arrogance and pride. There's no such thing as too much knowledge dumbass.

Everybody should be free to discuss whatever is on his or her mind. I don't think emperior's q is strange at all.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:53 pm
by idol
Why does Iblis think it's fun to scare people during the night. The bastard can't do shit on daylight. :lol:

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:43 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
idol wrote:Why does Iblis think it's fun to scare people during the night. The bastard can't do shit on daylight. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

thats not sheeydaan whos scaring you. its just that your fuley xaarweyne.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:50 pm
by idol
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
idol wrote:Why does Iblis think it's fun to scare people during the night. The bastard can't do shit on daylight. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

thats not sheeydaan whos scaring you. its just that your fuley xaarweyne.
looooooooooool How would you know my xaar is big? Sheeesh! :lol: :lol:

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:59 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: it's just an expression from ciyaal xamar( fuley xaarweyne) means someone who are so fuley he even afraid hes own xaaar.

laakiin its very common that dadka habeenkii cabsooda. siiba mugdiga ee mooda inay JINI arkaan. but it's just imagination. actually mr sheeydaan is active more in tha day light than he do at night.

Re: I never understood Shaytaan

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:00 am
by ciyaal_warta
Cinque Mtume wrote:
ciyaal_warta wrote:
well sometimes too much knowledge will give u arrogance and pride that was the case of ibliis ...do u know ibliis was PoW and he very religious jini !!
Bullshit. Ignorance leads to arrogance and pride. There's no such thing as too much knowledge dumbass.

Everybody should be free to discuss whatever is on his or her mind. I don't think emperior's q is strange at all.

dumbass that was the case of ibliis he knew too much and had a pride in him...he didnt consider the command of god just used his own calculation and come out with am better than adam coz fire is better than clay...rationalize before u jump all ur guns and i dint talk about emp freedom or not :down: