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Shirib wrote:Wrong side of history is better than begging for foreign countries to invade yours

how does kenya entering help our economy? doesnt it only devalue whatever integrity we had left(which is none).
unless you want a state that is made of kenya, Somalia and ethiopia then letting foreign armies in doesn't really help the future existence of SOMALIA.

GAAJAA I HEESO BAKHTI LOO MA CUNO

and btw Somalia is like one body it shouldnt matter for a healthy non-qabiilist whether more people die in Mogadisho or Gaalkacyo. but it cleary does for most of us......including me so stop kidding yourselves the africans are there to abuse so that some clan can abuse that abuse

Perfect_Order wrote:

Shirib wrote:Wrong side of history is better than begging for foreign countries to invade yours

but just like the other groups before, they will fail

contrary to popular belief that amisom is defeating shabab a lone and that somali troops are almost nonexistent in their contribution, look at the facts. Amisom has generally had the same amount of ground presence for over a year, but why did they start gaining from the 2km they use to control? When the tfg troops were probably paid, things changed, discipline changed, they started to become an effect fighting force. These foreign troops are nothing without the somali troops that have fought in gedo, xamar, and other places. Somalis are doing the fighting not these african troops alone. guul farmaajo

and that's why every day they're asking more for foreign troops right? Come on give me another sheeko sheeko, that was a pathetic attempt at distorting the truth

listen, making it seem like foreign troops are doing everything in somali is a distortion of the truth, somalis are working hand in hand, amisom is working regulary with amisom, kenya is working tfg from gedo, somalis are in this as and more than these foreign troops. Besides these countries only have a small number of forces, not enough to control somalia at all. You guys are shedding fake nationalistic crocdile tears give me a break.

TFG is absolutely nothing without foreign troops, and that's the absolute truth.

i'll show u the day when ur crying foul on the foreign troops that u are calling for today

Inankaagan xaragoonya,if your gonna make the case for foreign troops atleast avatarka sayidka iska soo dhig.

Shift wrote:Inankaagan xaragoonya,if your gonna make the case for foreign troops atleast avatarka sayidka iska soo dhig.

lmao

The solution for Somalia is for one of us to go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and train. Once we reach Super Saiyan power levels, we should be able to defeat every group that is a threat to peace and governance within a few hours. Then we can form a government for the people and by the people.

Shirib wrote:TFG is absolutely nothing without foreign troops, and that's the absolute truth.

i'll show u the day when ur crying foul on the foreign troops that u are calling for today

Thats a lie, tfg is becoming more and more able to stand on its feet, it has a police force and army. I will admit that it is not like a national army in most senses of the word, but more and more it is becoming like one. Guul TFG


shirib truth is, the longer Rahanwayne support Shabab with their kids the more they will lose out, you think former ghadafi loyalists are going to be treated the same now, you think sirt will ever return to the way it was? Shabab is finished, the game on the ground is changing constantly, you guys had heavy investments but cut your losses short and move on.

two groups of the darood clan, 1 supported by kenya, 1 by ethiopia.
ethiopia ,the boss ,doesnt want kenyan-supported Darood to gain the upper hand in this paradise called South-Somalia so it say to shariif ''you must be against kenya''.

i am wondering how exactly Somalia will divided by ethiopia and kenya? will they use different clan allegiances towards them to protect themselves? hmmm
no, but we must support our enemies so our great great children might see peace, a stable economy and tall high-rise like Malaysia while they enjoy a beer under the shade of the mosque with flags that dont even have a star.

its like a part of the afghani people asking the sovjets to come back in the name of setting up a much stronger economy and yh not to forget to save kidnapped russian civilians

Guys, one thing that we need to know is that few countries would be willing to send there troops in an AU mission. If it were a UN mission, many would. The countries that have sent troops to AMISOM have done that because they have to, and as part of IGAD, they have to do something. The biggest problem that we have is with the Somali politicians in the TFG especially with Sharrif because of their flip-flopping nature. In fact, i am beginning to feel that these people don't really want peace. For them, war has become a business. If peace comes, how will they be able to traffic Somali girls to brothels in Nairobi and Adis? How will they smuggle sugar to Somali when there is a customs body? Some of these politicians spend most of their time in Nairobi more than they do in Somalia; do you really think such guys are interested in getting peace.

Someone has asked, why professional armies like SA and Nigeria have not gone to Somalia. Well, to begin with, Nigeria is not an army that can be called professional. Do you remember what happened in Benue state in 2001? A number of soldiers were attacked by bandits and some were killed. The Army marched out of the barracks (without Olesegun's approval,) they went to the village picked up 200 civilians and killed them in "retaliation." But to answer your question; their soldiers are just to precious to risk their lives for "a country that is going nowhere."

But why should inferior Bantus and Nilotes fight for the racially Superior Somalis? Anyone who knows that dark bantus and nilotes with kinky hair are inferior to the more light skinned Somalis who have softer hair knows that this should not be so. The question that these enlightened Somalis should be asking themselves is why the more superior Arabs are not doing anything. It's pretty obvious that a somali who is proud enough to despise a bantu is humble enough to adore an arab. After all, isn't the hair of an arab more curly? and are not their women more handsome than all? Then where is Egypt?

A lot of people who oppose Amisom also do so because because they feel these countries are predominantly Christian; if that is the case, why hasn't Libya, Algeria, Tunisia,sent their troops to help their Muslim brothers? Simple, because they don't care.

Apart from Kenya, every country that is in AMISOM or planning to be there has been to war. They have seen the devastation of war and what it can do to human dignity. When they send their troops to Mogadishu, they don't see the flip-flopping Sheik Sharif, they don't see the human trafficker who has been "elected" as a member of Parliament, neither do they see the Somali who chants "somaliweyn" from the comfort of his home in Stockholm while reminding others that his clan has not received its fair share of representation. All they see are are children who have been orphaned, women who die due to birth complications, and a nation that has fallen apart.

I give a lot of respect to the TFG soldiers. I saw a clip of them yesterday, and their was one soldier whose skin color was close to that of a dinka. His hair was unkempt. He looked confused. But still, he was part of the TFG forces that mounted a guard of honour for Major General abdulkadir Sheikh ali Dini when he came to visit wounded soldiers in Tabda.

Long Live Africa

PO

My friend Shirib Somalis says nin kuu digay kuma dilin. PO just told you if you support Shabab because of D&M don't end up on the wrong side of history. Those crackheads are facing the end of their times and Somali under foreign trusteeship is better than the status quo. Fake and meaningless nationalism is for the gullible and illiterates.

It has yielded nothing.

The notion that I support Al Shabaab or the idea that it's for D&M are both wrong. I don't support Shabaab, and never have supported it for being D&M.

Just as you cheered for Ethiopia in 2006 and came to be against them, I will show you the day that you are anti the troops which you are calling for today. If anyone is gonna be on the wrong side of history its those who are calling for other armies to come and kill their own people.

Shirib wrote:The notion that I support Al Shabaab or the idea that it's for D&M are both wrong. I don't support Shabaab, and never have supported it for being D&M.

Just as you cheered for Ethiopia in 2006 and came to be against them, I will show you the day that you are anti the troops which you are calling for today. If anyone is gonna be on the wrong side of history its those who are calling for other armies to come and kill their own people.

i dont know if you have heard of the Arab spring but the reason why the Arab people cant help is because they are oppressed themselves.
secondly, i dont know who you are but you have no idea of Somali heritage and culture. We the Somali people want Africans out.

Its called non-interference and Amerika found out that non-interference is perfect as long as you do it indirectly. The whole reason why Somalia has been destablized is because it was a threat to it surrounding christian country.
MISS, you cannot erase from us the historical fact that portugal, itali, england....etc came to the aid of their christian brothers. so please stop patronizing the average Somali youth whom I regard to have a slightly higher intelect.

i dont know why u brought the hair and ethnic issue into this, maybe you thought we needed to know that we are not more superior then our fellow africans, and we are not more superior i believe, in our heritage even a black man can rule.
but we cant forget kenya has illegally taken our land before and so has ethiopia. plus how can we support them when we are certain that eventually the reason for our girls being in the brothels is the government they suport.

we know ourselves better then anyone we DO NOT NEED foreign intervention or lectures from the wolf that ate our last born.
The only solution will come from us.

can you do me a favour and stop the anti-arab propaganda it sounds like you are bigoted towards them , make ducaa for they are in a bad situation thats why they could never help. ARABS HAVE AFRICAN BLOOD RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THEIR ROYAL BLOOD, loo at Saudi, better then nothing, so whatever culture allowed this must be very strong, dontcha think? HEY i dont see england having such openess,whatever happened to DIANA'S boyfriend. Well i think the queen of england wasnt too happy with him.

Or are you trying to say we will become less RASCIST if we let in kenyan troops who are supposedly better for us then Amerika and Ethiopia in?
So inorder for us to redeem ourselves from our superiority-feelings inherited by from Arabs we must let kenya in or be okay with it atleast. So i am paying for the sins of all warlords i never and so is OUR LAND? SOUNDS pretty christain to me. someone hand me the wholly-water halleluja!

please explain again without sounding you yourself have an inferiority complex about something you dont have, because Somalis dont have jareer hair, you Somali afterall, right??????

viva SOMALIA AND ITS FUll HERITAGE