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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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That was enough for Kenney, but not for the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN), an Ottawa-based Muslim civil rights organization that accused the Conservative government of basing harmful policy on anecdotal evidence.

“This decision will have a damaging effect on our democracy because it forces those who wear the niqab to choose between their religious convictions and adopting Canadian citizenship,” CAIR-CAN’s acting executive director Ihsaan Gardee said in a news release.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1100611
David Butt, the lawyer representing the unnamed woman, said that while his case pits the religious rights of his client against the rights of the defendants to face their accuser, there is not a strong enough argument against extending Charter rights to women who want to cover their faces at a citizenship ceremony.

That is because a microphone could help judges hear the woman swearing the oath and a private check of documents in the presence of a female official would be enough to verify the identity of the applicant, Butt said.
Kudos to Ihsaan Gardee and other Muslims, and non-Muslims such as David Butt who are defending Islam in Canada. It's baffling some Snetters chose not to defend Islam in this issue.
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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I dont understand the be quiet and be content view. You guys are acting like your citizenship is gonna get revoked and you will get deported tommorow if you voice your discontent. Pick up your shoulders you cowards :lol:

Funny thing is I was listening to the radio this morning, and the people calling in on the issue were unanimously outraged by it. They saw it as pure hypocrisy and an affront to freedom of religion, choice etc. People also saw it as a non issue that no one has complained about but it is being brought by the Conservative government to appeal to phobias in their base. Even funnier is that out of these callers almost 99 percent were average white, non Muslim Canadians. If they can speak up in the face of double standards, why can't you?

I gotta say that is a lesson in wisdom for some of you. These people have no real connection the people in hand, yet felt complelled to defend them. On the other hand people here could care less about anything unless it appealed to their tiny segmented identity specifically :lol: Irony.
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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I'm not even surprised considering Harper has the majority. But I agree with yungnfresh in that it's for security reasons; insha'allah they won't follow the path of European countries :up:
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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What's next, wanting to wear a niqaab when taking Drivers License photos and Passport photos? :lol:
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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BlackVelvet wrote:What's next, wanting to wear a niqaab when taking Drivers License photos and Passport photos? :lol:
You've rushed into an illogical scenario/visualization. If it was logical, niqabis would already have driver's license and passports with unidentifiable photos.
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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It is not the niqab they are targeting. It is you motherwackers who come to their own country to obey their rules.Get the real picture... They are right to told you what to do? You don't need more explanation
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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barakaboy10 wrote:this is not about freedom of religion, it is about common sense people. i don't get it why some Muslim women want to push it to the limit! i am not against wearing veil in normal circumstances but i am against it when it crosses the line. sometimes it doesn't make any sense to wear veil and in such cases, those who wear should understand that their behavior can act as a recruiting tool for hate groups who already hate us for who we are.

why in the earth would you want to wear veil to your naturalization ceremony???!!! i am really baffled by it.

for ALLAH sake, when you are going to an oath ceremony or getting a driver's license, please don't wear it.

we are basically giving them all the excuses they are looking for. so i blame us more than them, to be honest with you.

the best way to practice our religion is moving to a Muslim country.
Some people just want to see how much they can get away with.
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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Uproar in Canada over face-veil ban
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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^ An almost 2 year old vid :lol: For the most part, I agree w/ Yung :up:
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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arabmtu wrote:
barakaboy10 wrote:the best way to practice our religion is moving to a Muslim country.
So, you admit a Muslim cannot practice Islam the best way in Canada or other Western countries?
how could you do that while your coworker who's sitting next to you is half naked?

don't get me wrong and i believe only death can stop me from practicing my religion. it is non-negotiable.

however, all i am saying is that sometimes we need to be open minded about the potential consequences of our actions.

this example has nothing to do with this particular issue but i am going to share it with you anyway.

couple of years ago i worked at a warehouse somewhere in Minnesota and two-thirds of the employees were Somalis. the company didn't have specific rules regarding prayers but we were allowed to leave the assembly lines group by group without having to clock out anytime during prayers. it had been like that for years before i even joined the company. most of the Somalis were hardworking, honest employees but in their midst were some thugs who knew nothing about prayers and took advantage of the opportunity. some of us knew what they were doing but the company didn't find out until later. what they would do was that, when some of their groups went out to pray, they would go outside and smoke cigarettes. it worked for them for awhile until one day one of the managers saw them and as they say, "the rest was history."
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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Lillaahiya wrote:^ An almost 2 year old vid
+1 for bringing it to my attention. The following is an up-to-date:


barakaboy10 wrote:couple of years ago i worked at a warehouse somewhere in Minnesota
Was that the slaughter warehouse?
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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arabmtu wrote:
Somalian_Boqor wrote:Wearing a veil is unnecessary to begin with. As for Canada's new rule. :up:
You're a Muslim; aren't you supposed to support your niqabi sisters instead of laws banning Islam?
Akhi this is a disgusting view the youth are following we must do something about it.
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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ZIONIST ISLAMOPHOBIC SUN NEWS CALLING CBC AND CTV BIASED!?
THE FOCKING IRONY :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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So are we gonna ignore that video shows that "liberals" and non Muslims also oppose the ban? I thought so called liberals instinctively oppose Islam and its practice. Not exactly so huh?
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Re: No freedom of religion in Canada

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Jaidi wrote:I dont understand the be quiet and be content view. You guys are acting like your citizenship is gonna get revoked and you will get deported tommorow if you voice your discontent. Pick up your shoulders you cowards :lol:

Funny thing is I was listening to the radio this morning, and the people calling in on the issue were unanimously outraged by it. They saw it as pure hypocrisy and an affront to freedom of religion, choice etc. People also saw it as a non issue that no one has complained about but it is being brought by the Conservative government to appeal to phobias in their base. Even funnier is that out of these callers almost 99 percent were average white, non Muslim Canadians. If they can speak up in the face of double standards, why can't you?

I gotta say that is a lesson in wisdom for some of you. These people have no real connection the people in hand, yet felt complelled to defend them. On the other hand people here could care less about anything unless it appealed to their tiny segmented identity specifically :lol: Irony.
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