Self-determination for everyone.

[Saraxnow]

Mudanenomad seems like Cali-Gaab. Like I said, the question is for rationalists.

Oh really? And you're itching for War? :

Waa nin rag ah wallahi. Ma reer Mahad baa? Only Caabudwaaq and Gaalkacyo are enough to drive the frontier to Burco and set up a checkpoint there

And he talks about Rationalism ignoring this very rational and sensible argument :

Forgive my unsolicited interference.

1. Somaliland is not yet internationally recognised and your logic is instantly flawed by default. IF SSC wishes to seek independence they should be seeking that independence from Moqadishu. In essense for SSC to gain independence they must support the overall somaliland objective of full independence from somalia only then can they seek a further seperation from somaliland.

2. There is no consensus in the SSC-area in terms of political objectives. There is nobody stopping the locals in uniting to further their cause. We are all aware of the cause of the violence in the SSC-area and non of us need pretend that it is caused by the admins in hargeysa.

3. SSC-area is multi clan and each clan has authority in it's area of residence. If the pro somaliland residence are not convinced with the Fake "pro somaliweyn" agenda should they be coerced or exterminated? because your stance is advocating just that.


Somaliland is in no position to grant independence to anyone within it's 1960 British somaliland borders because they surrendered that authority in moqadishu in 1960. They have sought to reclaim it since 1991 however that has not occured yet and until that occurs there is really no reason for anyone to seek to seperate from somaliland. The whole conflict is based on the ignorant few that are motivated by selfish political ambitions.

Self determination for everyone

SSC/Awdal have a higher chance of independence once somaliland is independent itself. If SSC and AWDAL are both genuine, their dreams are better realised by supporting somaliland's indpendence. Otherwise they will exist as the Kurds or the Kashmiris till eternity.

As for seeking a moral comparison or justification in any somali issues you are taking the f-king piss matey.

But what did it say? :

Waa nin rag ah wallahi. Ma reer Mahad baa? Only Caabudwaaq and Gaalkacyo are enough to drive the frontier to Burco and set up a checkpoint there

Clearly one cannot change the mindset of hypocritical opportunists like Voltage and his ilk, in other words, once a FAQ--QASH always a FAQASH

[The_Emperior5]

Saraxnow dont take voltage serious

[BankiiTuuyo]

Lady-Nas
you are showing the true characteristics of dhabyaco
1. Faan
2. Faatadhug
3. Fataalinimo iyo
4. Fusuq
need i say more good woman, now hit the road and wear your new Diric

Qoladaa wax ka faan badan ma arkin. I mean they even claim they invented buraanbur, the irony is ridiculous.

To all the dooros calaacalaya, words are nothing, action is what separates men from women.

Waa nin rag ah wallahi. Ma reer Mahad baa? Only Caabudwaaq and Gaalkacyo are enough to drive the frontier to Burco and set up a checkpoint there

Her comes Bipolar-Boon and his misplaced priorities in the propaganda WAR on Somaliland, waryaa try to lend a hand to your Getho ppl instead of wasting your time on Somaliland

Fcked up priorities indeed.

waar yaadheheen oo miyeydaan maqal ninka darood ee beri yidhi CIGAAL SHIIDAAD darood bu ahaa kuu ku yidhi waa ka jeestay uun dhabarku tusay kuwii kalena qosol ba loo wada dhacay wale iyo bile yaa base cigaal shidaad wax ku falaya oo ku faanaya darood mooye waxaan is idhi war niyow mala dadkan taarikh la'aan ba haysa nacamti maxa ku kalifay inu fuleygii xaarka weyna ee cigaal shidaad inu sheegto ninka darood?



listen up fuckin mooryaan people who have been in kenyan refugee camps the last 21 years dhacdooyinka maanta dhacayaa berri wexey idiin noqon taariikh its your history man who cares goodbye poor mouth dooros ]<........people of moqadisho i'm your leader come to kenya for ugali you skinny sticks. SAD PEOPLE WANNA TALK SHITTT???

[gurey25]

I have already answered all your questions in previous posts.
But you were trolling..

i do not know if you want a serious debate or not..

[The_Emperior5]

I have already answered all your questions in previous posts.
But you were trolling..

i do not know if you want a serious debate or not..

Guray's answer was diplomatic dejure recognition from Mogadishu

And Somaliland will give eastern sool and the southern buhoodle district will be part of Mogadisho

[udun]

Buuhoodle is fully defended and no Iidoor has a say in that area. As a matter fact, Soomaalidiid entity is crumbling after the repeated defeats tey suffered in the battle fields. You can all see Siilaanyo doing his qaylo-dhaan and asking all Eydoors to contribute militia.

On Laascaanood side, the internal reconcialation between Dhulbahante clans is in progress. The removal of Soomaalidiid flag is not that long.

On Warsangeli side, the entire territory is outside of Soomaalidiid hands.

On Awdal side, the Awdal State has been established, and the Awdalians have started to remove that filth flag from their region.

In reality, there is nothing to ask from secessionst camp. They are failing big in the battle fields, so I do not see the rationale asking them to give self determination for other communities. If one is failing militarily, I do not get the rationale to ask them any form of self determination for others. Truth is the biggest failures in all of these is the Somaliland's secessionist project. Unless they get something thru foreign interference, their project of breaking away from Somalia has been nullified. Buuhoodle alone has done that part.

[Somalian_Boqor]

Buuhoodle is fully defended and no Iidoor has a say in that area. As a matter fact, Soomaalidiid entity is crumbling after the repeated defeats tey suffered in the battle fields. You can all see Siilaanyo doing his qaylo-dhaan and asking all Eydoors to contribute militia.

On Laascaanood side, the internal reconcialation between Dhulbahante clans is in progress. The removal of Soomaalidiid flag is not that long.

On Warsangeli side, the entire territory is outside of Soomaalidiid hands.

On Awdal side, the Awdal State has been established, and the Awdalians have started to remove that filth flag from their region.

In reality, there is nothing to ask from secessionst camp. They are failing big in the battle fields, so I do not see the rationale asking them to give self determination for other communities. If one is failing militarily, I do not get the rationale to ask them any form of self determination for others. Truth is the biggest failures in all of these is the Somaliland's secessionist project. Unless they get something thru foreign interference, their project of breaking away from Somalia has been nullified. Buuhoodle alone has done that part.

Well Said Inadeer.

[abgaalKING]

Buuhoodle is fully defended and no Iidoor has a say in that area. As a matter fact, Soomaalidiid entity is crumbling after the repeated defeats tey suffered in the battle fields. You can all see Siilaanyo doing his qaylo-dhaan and asking all Eydoors to contribute militia.

On Laascaanood side, the internal reconcialation between Dhulbahante clans is in progress. The removal of Soomaalidiid flag is not that long.

On Warsangeli side, the entire territory is outside of Soomaalidiid hands.

On Awdal side, the Awdal State has been established, and the Awdalians have started to remove that filth flag from their region.

In reality, there is nothing to ask from secessionst camp. They are failing big in the battle fields, so I do not see the rationale asking them to give self determination for other communities. If one is failing militarily, I do not get the rationale to ask them any form of self determination for others. Truth is the biggest failures in all of these is the Somaliland's secessionist project. Unless they get something thru foreign interference, their project of breaking away from Somalia has been nullified. Buuhoodle alone has done that part.

Dont lump all isaaqs together,they are many noble,honorable isaaq people who want to see a UNITED somalia with its capital in Mogadishu,we need to assist them in their struggle against the elite thugs in hargeysa.

[Kukri]

Either you have lost complete faith in God and do not put value on his consequence or you value God and after declaring your movement succeeded because the Siad Barre government was unjust realize also what Hargeisa is doing to Buuhoodle is inherently unjust.
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[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Either you have lost complete faith in God and do not put value on his consequence or you value God and after declaring your movement succeeded because the Siad Barre government was unjust realize also what Hargeisa is doing to Buuhoodle is inherently unjust.
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[Voltage]

Kukri in adeerow I thought we were friends maxaa dhacay

[Coeus]

Buuhoodle is fully defended and no Iidoor has a say in that area. As a matter fact, Soomaalidiid entity is crumbling after the repeated defeats tey suffered in the battle fields. You can all see Siilaanyo doing his qaylo-dhaan and asking all Eydoors to contribute militia.

On Laascaanood side, the internal reconcialation between Dhulbahante clans is in progress. The removal of Soomaalidiid flag is not that long.

On Warsangeli side, the entire territory is outside of Soomaalidiid hands.

On Awdal side, the Awdal State has been established, and the Awdalians have started to remove that filth flag from their region.

In reality, there is nothing to ask from secessionst camp. They are failing big in the battle fields, so I do not see the rationale asking them to give self determination for other communities. If one is failing militarily, I do not get the rationale to ask them any form of self determination for others. Truth is the biggest failures in all of these is the Somaliland's secessionist project. Unless they get something thru foreign interference, their project of breaking away from Somalia has been nullified. Buuhoodle alone has done that part.

[Kukri]

Kukri in adeerow I thought we were friends maxaa dhacay

We are friends, but what are friends for if they can't correct a friend who is in the wrong