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greenday wrote:Losing power is not the point and i can use London because we are trying to compromise, since this federal thing came so that everyone can govern themselves then we have think of ways of letting everyone governing what they see as theirs or else its going to make a group of people feel like they are being the ones who must make the sacrifice. we don't want to start on the wrong foot by deciding certain peoples fate. they should have at least been asked lakiin to say tough luck everyone can make up their rules but this town, well this town anaa u hadleeyno is kinda ceeb and people feel disrespected.

Anyway why are you against if it can work? Why do you mind if its in Banadir state?
Why don't you look at the positives. The federal government, and army is going to be based there. It is the economic center of Most of the country. It has the most attention and first priority to rebuilding, schools, hospitals, and big businesses. When there is a federal system in place, it will be where money from the states are being funneled to. Now, it will most likely elect it's own city government, with a mayor, keep track of it's revenue from the ports, and businesses. It is the most multiqabil city in Somalia. And it is the national capitol, known and recognized by the world. So what is this sacrifice you are talking about?
Who ever lives in Xamar cadeey has it good, has it the best, and your comparing it to desert towns, when xamar itself has close to the population of all of puntland?
Xamar is a jewel, that needs to be made sure that it runs smoothly, or else it jeopardizes the whole country.
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greenday wrote:Adoow xamar waa hal magaalo, it aint going to make Banadir state gold :lol:

If what you are saying is true,some specific folks wouldnt have nightmares at the mere thought of it.somalidu waxey ku soo koobmeen anigu waxba noqon maayo adiguna waxba ha noqon.we are really tired of this unhealthy behavior.there are alternatives ways like moving the capital to other places or giving the banadir state the full local control of mogadishu.hadii qabiil kasto meel ooto rabo dee perfect order waxa uu inoogu diidanyahay soo maahan xin? :lol:
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Addoow wrote:He is against it because banadir people becoming powerful ayuu xasdayaa? if we become a federal entity which will happen anyway,then we will dictate to every weak federal gov which emerges.the worst enemies are the ones hiding behind nationalism kuwaasi ayaaba ugu daran. :lol:
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If Benadir becomes a State, then there has to be an agreed upon place that becomes the seat of the government like D.C or Bern, Switerland or Abuja, Nigera.
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Addoow, what is all this macho talk, if abgaal as you claim, won't stand to be rejected, or whatever, why didn't you go like Puntland many years ago. Made your administration, now you would of been dictating xamar's status, instead of leaving to all Somalis to decide. Don't forget that the lil boys, who was ruled by Isaaq, raxanwayne were running "your" banaadir until recently. That should help you understand the power of beesha right now. :lol:
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greenday wrote:Losing power is not the point and i can use London because we are trying to compromise, since this federal thing came so that everyone can govern themselves then we have think of ways of letting everyone governing what they see as theirs or else its going to make a group of people feel like they are being the ones who must make the sacrifice. we don't want to start on the wrong foot by deciding certain peoples fate. they should have at least been asked lakiin to say tough luck everyone can make up their rules but this town, well this town anaa u hadleeyno is kinda ceeb and people feel disrespected.

Anyway why are you against if it can work? Why do you mind if its in Banadir state?
Why don't you look at the positives. The federal government, and army is going to be based there. It is the economic center of Most of the country. It has the most attention and first priority to rebuilding, schools, hospitals, and big businesses. When there is a federal system in place, it will be where money from the states are being funneled to. Now, it will most likely elect it's own city government, with a mayor, keep track of it's revenue from the ports, and businesses. It is the most multiqabil city in Somalia. And it is the national capitol, known and recognized by the world. So what is this sacrifice you are talking about?
Who ever lives in Xamar cadeey has it good, has it the best, and your comparing it to desert towns, when xamar itself has close to the population of all of puntland?
Xamar is a jewel, that needs to be made sure that it runs smoothly, or else it jeopardizes the whole country.


How can out army be based in Muqdisho? they will have to go to some tuulo as a base you cant have them in the capital, as for everything else the state will take care of it its not like the mayor of afgoye will run xamar, it will have its own mamuul like every town. or are you saying that this mamuul will not be capable of running it? because again the central government will not be ruining any city as you know.

Plus aniga iyo adiga waa usimanahay if that mamuul is created, but am going to live there invest, its about time we shared things fairly or else it will create problems which are not needed.
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Perfect_Order wrote:Addoow, what is all this macho talk, if abgaal as you claim, won't stand to be rejected, or whatever, why didn't you go like Puntland many years ago. Made your administration, now you would of been dictating xamar's status, instead of leaving to all Somalis to decide. Don't forget that the lil boys, who was ruled by Isaaq, raxanwayne were running "your" banaadir until recently. That should help you understand the power of beesha right now. :lol:
Where they not running the whole south :|
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Niya wrote:If Benadir becomes a State, then there has to be an agreed upon place that becomes the seat of the government like D.C or Bern, Switerland or Abuja, Nigera.

Yup.

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The Negative side will override what ever positive you paint,clan is everthing and tensions will explode exponentially when numerous clans come together.The reason Mog was a hellhole and these lil faggots came was simply that it was the capital and nothing else. :lol:
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How about the capital is moved to Galkacyo? waa bartama wadanka :up:
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if it is having it's own maamul, then what is different from it having a city government? Ofcourse Mogadishu is going to have a mayor, who is elected by reer muqodishu, etc. It just won't be a federal state, that will have seats in the parliament, but i'm sure it will be given some kind of recognition status to play in national politics.
And I mean, the headquarters, not the actual troops deployed in the city when there is peace.

Greenday, exactly, and they still are controlling most of the south. It is this federal government, that is finally giving the people more voices, and addoow is talking about we won't stand for this, hinting at fighting. What ridiculousness. If Abgaal had any awood to fight, go free all of your lands without amisom. :lol: And no marexaan is not in a better position, so don't think I'm saying that, I'm just being real.
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Addoow wrote:
Niya wrote:If Benadir becomes a State, then there has to be an agreed upon place that becomes the seat of the government like D.C or Bern, Switerland or Abuja, Nigera.

Yup.

PO
The Negative side will override what ever positive you paint,clan is everthing and tensions will explode exponentially when numerous clans come together.The reason Mog was a hellhole and these lil faggots came was simply that it was the capital and nothing else. :lol:
Maybe Mogadishu will be cut up into pieces, part completely federal, part maamul gobaleed? :lol:
Wallahi I have no clue what is going to happen, but I want peace, and stability in every land.
But dude, if mogadishu has a city government, wouldn't who ever is the majority be in control of the city? If beesha abgaal is majority, then you guys control mogadishu. It's not like there are calls to impose who holds the seats in a mogadishu city government.

Greenday, talks of moving the capital is not even realistic right now. :lol:
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Perfect_Order wrote:if it is having it's own maamul, then what is different from it having a city government? Ofcourse Mogadishu is going to have a mayor, who is elected by reer muqodishu, etc. It just won't be a federal state, that will have seats in the parliament, but i'm sure it will be given some kind of recognition status to play in national politics.
And I mean, the headquarters, not the actual troops deployed in the city when there is peace.

Greenday, exactly, and they still are controlling most of the south. It is this federal government, that is finally giving the people more voices, and addoow is talking about we won't stand for this, hinting at fighting. What ridiculousness. If Abgaal had any awood to fight, go free all of your lands without amisom. :lol: And no marexaan is not in a better position, so don't think I'm saying that, I'm just being real.

The "awood" are shabab :lol: Its not that shabab is from somewhere else they are the people of the town :down:


As for muqdisho is can play both roles :up: anywhere that becomes the capital will have to play both roles if this thing happens or else its going create unwanted rift iyo anaa nala xumeeye we dont want the blame game again do we.
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P.O

If the Formation of banadir state bothers you,Then allaha ku daaweeyo.well,it is legitimate and finally will came true.Some times you are honest other times you being naive,we are not against somalis sharing all and everyone living everywhere,we like it and we welcome it.but if your cake is yours and you want to share mine,then it is not a logical.and yes,every group who has legitimate concerns must fight for its rights taasi waa human nature and it is up to us. :mrgreen:
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PO, i think people are looking for equality :up: somalia is at rebirth the capital can be moved anywhere :up:
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I think you guys should be writing to sheikh shariff, and asking him why he signed over your equality. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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