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Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:33 am
by Mondey
greenday wrote:I believe there will be 800 or so people who will approve the constitution that is the time to bring up issues i dont think these people will approve something thats going to hinders Somalias progress. Nothing is set in stone marka ha la is dajiyo.
The two or more gobol stuff is not going to work for people in central Somalia and that i think is causing the problem here.
i don't understand this rule either according to it only p.land fulfills the condition it consists of 2 full gobols !
all the remaining states do not !
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:43 am
by greenday
Mondey wrote:greenday wrote:I believe there will be 800 or so people who will approve the constitution that is the time to bring up issues i dont think these people will approve something thats going to hinders Somalias progress. Nothing is set in stone marka ha la is dajiyo.
The two or more gobol stuff is not going to work for people in central Somalia and that i think is causing the problem here.
i don't understand this rule either according to it only p.land fulfills the condition it consists of 2 full gobols !
all the remaining states do not !
Seems like they used PL as a model without considering the dynamics of other areas! Thinking people will just accept it.
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:08 am
by Osob101
Greenday let's be realistic Abgaal will not be 3 different federal states because as it seem's Xamar will become a state on it's own state or join a state and the capital will be 1km carved out of Xamar while the two shabbeelas will form a state so mareeg iska iloow. My reer ayeeyo have a choice to make

Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:13 am
by greenday
We will see how things go I guess!
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:26 am
by abdalla11
The HG deegaans dont fullfil the 2 or more gobols. They live in parts of Mudug and galguduud.
As PM abdiweli said the people who're criticising the constitution, the majority of them have not read it
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:40 am
by SahanGalbeed
I think you should pay closer attention to what I am telling you
After the habar Gidir form do their thing , they will have to take it up a notch --> HG+Majeerteen+Leelkase+Nth Marehan = 1 future state in the central part of the Somalia of tomorrow .{insha Allah }
300 years from now , the somali kids who will be reading this , as they will surely be interested in their refugee forefathers will realize that it was all done here , in Snet

Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:42 am
by SahanGalbeed
abdalla11 wrote:The HG deegaans dont fullfil the 2 or more gobols. They live in parts of Mudug and galguduud.
As PM abdiweli said the people who're criticising the constitution, the majority of them have not read it
What does PM abdiweli say about Puntland drafting its own Constitution ?
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:54 am
by abdalla11
^The Isaaq deputy PM was at the ceremony in Garowe after the drafting of the PL constitution. So Abdiweli and Sharif approve it, heck the Federal constitution is a lengthening line to the PL constitution lol
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:04 am
by Grift
Bay and Bakool = 2
Shabeelada = 2
Mudug, Galguduud and Hiraan = 2.5
Puntland = 2.5
Jubboyinka 3
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:12 am
by SahanGalbeed
abdalla11 wrote:^The Isaaq deputy PM was at the ceremony in Garowe after the drafting of the PL constitution. So Abdiweli and Sharif approve it, heck the Federal constitution is a lengthening line to the PL constitution lol
Well that Isaaq deputy PM is irrelevant here

In his capacity of deputy prime minister he doesn't represent the sentiment of his tribesmen {us}. He is just one Isaaq guy , like I am . In fact I would even go as far as claiming to be more relevant than he is . You on the other hand appear to fervently support PM Abdiweli
So my question here is , why would the PM 's opinion matter to the habar gidir , when the prime minister of Somalia cannot remind the tribal enclave of his own people called Puntland the importance /ascendance of the Federal Constitution ?
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:31 am
by abdalla11
I mentioned the PM because he was on point when he said the majority of those who rejected the constitution havent even read the constitution. Beesha HG rejected it and if you've listened to the clips posted, you will see they don't mention which articles they're against it nor do they give a detailed explanation.
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:33 am
by tightrope
abdalla11 wrote:I mentioned the PM because he was on point when he said the majority of those who rejected the constitution havent even read the constitution. Beesha HG rejected it and if you've listened to the clips posted, you will see they don't mention which articles they're against it nor do they give a detailed explanation.
ITS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T READ.

Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:36 am
by SahanGalbeed
abdalla11 wrote:I mentioned the PM because he was on point when he said the majority of those who rejected the constitution havent even read the constitution. Beesha HG rejected it and if you've listened to the clips posted, you will see they don't mention which articles they're against it nor do they give a detailed explanation.
I can't wantch any video , sorry.
Well give them some time , they'll come up with something I am sure .
Really , if Allah answers my wishes , the constitution of the majeerten { which is that of Puntland} and the constitution of the habar gedir{ which is yet to be made } won't matter at the end , they will have to create a new one that encompasses the both of them .
Re: Habargedir Political unity biggest state in Central Soma
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm
by mahdi01
The Problem of the south is not short of regions or Gobolo, but short of contemplations, most of the eighteen regions in Somalia are located in south Somalia, anywhere south of Gaalkacyo is considered south Somalia and if you do the math that is 11 regions of the 18 regions, they have enough regions to make 4 regional governments, however 20 years of anarchy and mooryaanism and finally extremism canopy their eyes the importance of coming together and start the 2.5 regional government method.
Both Somaliland and Puntland have much smaller territory than south Somalia but fulfilled federal criteria to become regional governments only because they invested cooperation in their respective area while the south invested anarchy and isbaaro business.