Cleared Of Rape Conviction

[udun]

The problem is the US judicial system that allows ordinanry people from the street to be juries and decide other people's lives. It should have been a panel of experts have been who chosen from different fields, and who have been truly vetted. The idea of having ordinary people decide other people's fate, where the jury members bring their own prejudices and idiotic nonsense, is just nonsense and does not make sense at all. Tragically, this is why this guy, Banks, who have been falsely accused with rape, took the "no contest" please, because he did not want to put his faith in the hands of some idiotic, tobacco-chewing racist rednecks.

You know a judge can over-rule a jury's guilt verdict? And the general public, which include professionals/experts, that are randomly chosen to sit jury. What are the chances of everyone on jury duty being a racist redneck?

If judges were throwing out cases that came down to guilt verdict based on verdicts that they see with micarriages of justice, 60% of America's prison population would not have been African American (AA) males. If all members of juries were professionals and experts as you put it, and were deliberating justly, the 60% AA males statistics out of the total prison population would not have held. This is afterall the country that created two separate rules for cocaine: (1) you are caught with selling or consuming crack cocaine, and you are sent to prison with 10 years minimum; (2) you are caught with white cocaine, and you end up less than a year in prison. Most of the white cocaine arrests are treated like a misdemeanor. The reason that they have separate rules is, the crack cocaine is mostly sold in black neighbourhoods, whereas white cocaine is sold in affluent white neighbothoods. Ouch, so much for professionals/experts claim!

It is true and undeniable fact that an overwhelming majority of whites hold prejudices against AA, and this is the reason why you have those staggering statistics that show how group of people who make up 12% of the total population finds themselves 60% of people who are being convicted for any crimes. Jim Craw laws are still enforced: http://digitaljournal.com/article/318266

Again I repeat a system that allows every guy/woman from the street to be a jury is dysfunctional and will only fill the prisons with poor minorities!

[Sealion]

he will paid $45 million as compensation for wrongful conviction. not a bad deal.

That's more than a lot of guys in the nfl make their whole careers, right?

[Lillaahiya]

If judges were throwing out cases that came down to guilt verdict based on verdicts that they see with micarriages of justice, 60% of America's prison population would not have been African American (AA) males. If all members of juries were professionals and experts as you put it, and were deliberating justly, the 60% AA males statistics out of the total prison population would not have held. This is afterall the country that created two separate rules for cocaine: (1) you are caught with selling or consuming crack cocaine, and you are sent to prison with 10 years minimum; (2) you are caught with white cocaine, and you end up less than a year in prison. Most of the white cocaine arrests are treated like a misdemeanor. The reason that they have separate rules is, the crack cocaine is mostly sold in black neighbourhoods, whereas white cocaine is sold in affluent white neighbothoods. Ouch, so much for professionals/experts claim!

It is true and undeniable fact that an overwhelming majority of whites hold prejudices against AA, and this is the reason why you have those staggering statistics that show how group of people who make up 12% of the total population finds themselves 60% of people who are being convicted for any crimes. Jim Craw laws are still enforced: http://digitaljournal.com/article/318266

Exactly. It's not that AAs tend to be criminals; AAs tend to be are who society criminalizes. There are laws set in place that target groups (your example of the crack cocaine vs. cocaine laws) and this results in their over-representation in the criminal justice system. No one is arguing against this.

Again I repeat a system that allows every guy/woman from the street to be a jury is dysfunctional and will only fill the prisons with poor minorities!

The whole point of the jury system is to allow civilians to take part in the judicial system. They're meant to oversee court hearings to ensure that people aren't arbitrarily thrown into prison. Moreover, the majority of cases are settled with plea bargains so juries aren't always present at hearings. Therefore I don't see the correlation between the prison population and juries. If anything, like you mentioned above, it's the criminal code that fills prisons with minorities.

[Basra-]

Udun wrote:

"The problem is the US judicial system that allows ordinanry people from the street to be juries and decide other people's lives. It should have been a panel of experts have been who chosen from different fields, and who have been truly vetted. The idea of having ordinary people decide other people's fate, where the jury members bring their own prejudices and idiotic nonsense, is just nonsense and does not make sense at all. Tragically, this is why this guy, Banks, who have been falsely accused with rape, took the "no contest" please, because he did not want to put his faith in the hands of some idiotic, tobacco-chewing racist rednecks"





Not only did Lilyana set you right about the judge able to over-turn a jury verdict, the jury system itself can work on the favor of the accused. If u have one dissenting jury from the 12 member panel-- the case to be dismissed or rescheduled or whatever.(the problem with you Udun, is u r too caught up speaking and feeling on the side of the accused adoon that you dont see the positiveness of the jury system) The point is --the American jury system is the BEST form of law there is-- that 'expert special panel ' u r asking for is a reminiscent of the African style of elite few governing the majority,by the wonderful gift of dictatorship of course, which is disgusting if you ask this free American.

The core issue here is that-- racism exist in America--- and that i admit openly, but that does not mean-- that the man pleads guilty of a crime he didnt commit. The adoon must have had some connection to the case to involve him. But also, granted there could be an argument raised in the fairness of some states convicting people from here say, especially ignorant states like Texas. But that is the risk one takes in life, and not to mention the Will of God at play here. It was decreed that this adoon be in imprisoned for 5 years. (small years if u ask me) The only evil here was racism, but our jury system is the BEST--- and no other one "out-there" can out-wit it!



Udun, to be frank, u r in NO POSITION to critic our American way, your Taliban endeavors and solemn wishes truly evokes the deepest, UN-awaken passion if irritation within me. You sir-- at the end of the day, are a Sociopath with a terrorist sense of identity, and that in case you are NOT aware of is the very essence of anti- democracy! Take your majeerten slash marehaan behind to the infertile land of the marehaan--and slowly die there. We have no use for you. You can take your Baare Nostalgia addiction with you!

[DisplacedDiraac]

reminds me of the story of the tom robinson case in the 'to kill a mockingbird' scene of the 30s.

say no to institutional racism

She was black herself though..





She should also get 5years..

[yungnfresh]

^ WTF?! How can anybody believe that anybody would rape that? The defense shoulda been just a pic of her.

[Tuushi]

^^^ Like rapists care.They have one thing on mind and she is got it.

[Basra-]

yung

to u NOT--but to a fellow adoon-- she is fetching and scrumptious. Unexplainable but has something to do with biology and matching adoon pheromones!

[Alphanumeric]

yung

to u NOT--but to a fellow adoon-- she is fetching and scrumptious. Unexplainable but has something to do with biology and matching adoon pheromones!

[FarhanYare]

foolxuumo badnaa waxuu

[udun]

The Disadvantages of the Jury System
By Linda Woolhether, eHow Contributor

Defendants can exert their right to a trial by jury in criminal and some civil cases. The Sixth Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the accused the right to a trial by an impartial jury. Juries weigh the evidence and testimony presented to determine the facts, but judges rule on the questions of law. This legal method of determining the outcome of an issue has disadvantages that may outweigh advantages. The jury system holds a great deal of power that has the potential for abuse.

Inexperienced Jurors
Most jurors have little or no training in matters of law. The only legal requirement for a juror is that he knows the facts involved in case being tried. The judge guides the juries in determining the facts they can admit into evidence and the ones they must exclude. Many jurors encounter complicated problems far beyond their training and experience. The lack of legal knowledge allows prosecutors to easily convince and persuade jurors to believe their assertions.

Prejudiced Jurors
A jury trial presents a disadvantage for defendants when prejudice is an issue. Local biases and prejudices influence the outcome of many trials. The jurors disregard logic presented by a judge or defense lawyer, because of past experiences or moral sentiment. Prejudiced jurors have unjustly convicted innocent defendants. Stereotyping and racial profiling contribute to miscarriage of justice in some cases.

Expense
Opponents of jury trials contend they are inefficient and ineffective. They claim juries cost the system far more than their worth. A jury trial is not only expensive, but time consuming as well. Officials seek ways to reduce court costs by encouraging the practice of plea bargaining and negotiation prior to trials. However, this practice gives the prosecution an unfair advantage and denies a defendant his right to trial before a jury of his peers.

Majority Rule
In a standard jury trial, the prosecution must convince a majority of 12 people of a defendant's guilt. This is a simple process, if the evidence is compelling. Jurors are human beings first and jurors second. Many will just go along with the majority, even when they are not completely convinced that the defendant is guilty. Some don't want to serve in the first place and will do anything to end the trial and go home. This action results in unjust verdicts.

Intelligence Level of Jurors
Most jury members don't completely understand the laws they must follow. Scientific evidence is difficult for some jurors to comprehend. The average juror does not understand complex evidence in some trials regardless of his qualifications. It is difficult for jurors to assess the reliability of witnesses or evidence. Many jurors in civil trials involving financial matters do not grasp the evidence presented.

Imagine islaan Basra being a jury

Source: http://www.ehow.com/info_8163035_disadv ... ystem.html

[FarhanYare]

yung

to u NOT--but to a fellow adoon-- she is fetching and scrumptious. Unexplainable but has something to do with biology and matching adoon pheromones!

[udun]

Udun, to be frank, u r in NO POSITION to critic our American way, your Taliban endeavors and solemn wishes truly evokes the deepest, UN-awaken passion if irritation within me. You sir-- at the end of the day, are a Sociopath with a terrorist sense of identity, and that in case you are NOT aware of is the very essence of anti- democracy! Take your majeerten slash marehaan behind to the infertile land of the marehaan--and slowly die there. We have no use for you. You can take your Baare Nostalgia addiction with you!

I doubt this woman is normal.

For those who don't know, Basra is a frequenter in this Islam bashing website, http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/, and she goes by the nickname JaWannaB. Ladies and gentlemen, see for yourself what she states in that hateful website

[metamorphosis]

Things like this happen all around The world. I dont think The judge could be blamed for ruling In favor of The Women granted that all The evidence at The time of The prosecution pointed that direction. Also many people have served longer terms and some have even been excuted for crimes they have not committed. So yes The system is still unsettled and could use further improvements but its.not uncommon. What will 45million do for you with your reputation out of The window?

[Basra-]

Udun@loool

Udun u can quote whatever u want, i can do the same--i only have to Google. But my point is--the jury system is magnificent. The best it is--now, that does not mean, it has no fault-- but i can tell you--there is no other system in the world that is better than it. Your so called 'elite expert' also have prejudices and so on. That is why --there is something called Supreme court---which every case has a right to go to--and guess what? There u will find so called ' 9 ' expert judges who always judge according to their politics and prejudices. We will see what they will decide in this very much anticipated case of Obama care. I personally, vote for it, some of my friends have AIDS, who could die if it does not pass. Actually, NOT--i want it not to pass--- death is a beautiful thing.