WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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miskeen86 wrote:most hawiyes i have seen are timo jareer, maybe they mixed with somalian bantus since they live in south close together. sorry, i aint hating on hawiye, just saying what i have seen so far.

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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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Obviously this article is written by some one who has no ideas about Somalia or History.

Somalis Families display various phentotypes a family can have timo jareer and timo malaas children. Somalis moved Southwards and came to uninhabited land. The Bantus still understand Tribes that are way southwards as far as Mozambique and History tells us that Omanis had Slaves from Zanzibar.The Portugese who tried to conquer Mogadishu colonised Mozambique. The Jareers don't have ancestry in Somalia. They aren't even related to the Jareer clans Somalis are neighbours with. So how can they be natives off the land? They have been shipped in by Portugese and Omanis.
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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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udun wrote:I agree with the racist descriptions that is documented in the article. Come'n people, we, Somalis, have fully practised it and still do so it in all of the racist connotations that is described in that article. Jareer, sangadhuudhi, addoon, reer baar, timo-adag (harded-hair), timo-jileec (softed-hair) were all of the racist terms we practiced backhome. I think we should work on to fix the wrongs we have committed against these fellow Somali Muslims, intead of denying it.

I used to remember this song from Somali Bantus during the MSB (may Allah take him to Jannatul-Fardowsa) government:

Jaale Siyaad
Jareer iyo jileec waa sintee
Jareerse jago looma dhiibin.

Basically, the Somali Bantus were thanking the government the equality that it has pursued, but they were also reminding the government about their lack of representation in the cabinet. Once the news of the song reached the Somali president, the Minister of Jubba Valley were created and I believe he was a Somali Bantu.


The seizure of farms owned by Bantus in the South after the last standing Somali government fell is well documented. Truth should be told.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource. ... ug=1895004 (same article advo posted) :lol:
Under Siad Barre's 22-year regime, the 300,000 or so Somali Bantus lost much of their land to government officials who simply wrote themselves deeds to the richest farms along the Jubba and Shabeelle rivers of southern Somalia.

During the famine, those landless Bantus were the first to go hungry.

When Siad Barre fell, the Somali clan gunmen came, again forcing Bantus from their farms, raping Bantu women and settling into a pattern of routine extortion that could only be called servitude by terror.
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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

Post by SahanGalbeed »

I can't read all this , but a lot of injustice has been dealt their way of which of course we the Somalis of the North{ particularly the Isaaq tribe to which I belong} have nothing to do with :)
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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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:lol: WTF there aren't even that many bantus around
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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

Post by LiquidHYDROGEN »

barakaboy10 wrote:this is the stupidest article i had ever read! I AGREE IT IS BS!
I couldn't agree more. This is the most ridiculous bullcrap I've read in a while - and I've read some of grandpakhalif's posts.
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Re: WTF what kind of BS is this? Racism in Somalia?

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kadarre wrote:Obviously this article is written by some one who has no ideas about Somalia or History.

Somalis Families display various phentotypes a family can have timo jareer and timo malaas children. Somalis moved Southwards and came to uninhabited land. The Bantus still understand Tribes that are way southwards as far as Mozambique and History tells us that Omanis had Slaves from Zanzibar.The Portugese who tried to conquer Mogadishu colonised Mozambique. The Jareers don't have ancestry in Somalia. They aren't even related to the Jareer clans Somalis are neighbours with. So how can they be natives off the land? They have been shipped in by Portugese and Omanis.
The Somali Bantus or Jareers as they are known in Somalia are very indigeneous in Somalia. Truth is Somali nomads have migrated to the riverine areas of Somalia within the last 500 years. To say that Jareer communities are not local is misleading I think. If there is any Somali nomadic clan that is more native than the Makane clan or Reer Shabeele who settles in Hiiraan all the way to Ogadenia around the Shabeele river, I would like to hear it.
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