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Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:17 am
by sahal80
Needless to say that the somali revolution was great on her first 10 years, this is what the professor samatar believes. I made a thread about this but he changed after 77 war and start depending on his clan(marehan, ogadeen his maternal clan, dhulbahante his wifes clan)through strategic cooperation between these friendly daroods. In this era the tribalism and nepotism had began and all the abilities, the lands had been attributed to these clans. The resistance had began, however barre was still great until his car accident in 1987, he was going through psychiatry and mental disorder. This is a year ago before the bombing of hargesa, samatar and the army have trayed to save the country as barre wa suffering mentally but the army was faced by strong men who entered in clan alliance lead by maslax siyaad,morgan and gabiyoow. Despite being injured he woke up and get some information and then kept firing samatar and his group because they wouldn't respect his sons authority and he promoted his son to general and the chief of the army. From here barre was not in a full authority, it was his son and his group who were ruling and committed all the horrible atrocities on the people.this is from an article for marehan jeneral called canjeex who had worked under maaslax. He says I was fired because the men I saved from being killed had leaked the information of the jaziira atrocity. He says this was direct order from maslax and his father had no a clue about it until the information was leaked.
I have lernt the 80s part a week ago when I read this article in af somali.

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:12 am
by sahal80
two great articls that is enough to understand siyaad barre.
viewtopic.php?f=250&t=307321
http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/ ... ol.Canjeex

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB (Afwayne)

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:27 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
AbdiWahab252 wrote:His foreign policy was a disaster: cutting off USSR ties, entering an unnecessary war with Ethiopia, hiring poorly skilled diplomats like Buluqbuluq to raise support for the Somali cause. His best times were from 1969 to 1976. He did a lot of good work then until the disastrous 77 war.
Exactly.

You know my problem with afweyne wasn't that he was a brutal dictator, but that he made a lot of bad decisions to the point of incompetence. Also he was nowhere near as brutal as he should've been. I would've bombed every single rebel city to oblivion and killed all the survivors with ground troops. I would've purged the military until it was comprised of only competent and loyal men from my own sub-clan. I wouldn't have engaged a war with xabshis, but armed all rebel movements from every ethnic group and watch that baby explode into ethnic cleansing. I would industrialized Somalia into a manufacturing nation and built excellent universities and technical colleges (no pun intended). I would've set up secret police and hit-squads that squashed any form of dissent and controlled all forms of media. If your gonna be a ruthless dictator, do it right.

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:32 am
by Somaliman50
lol @ afwayne. you guys give the poor man way too much attention. qofka wuxuu garaad leeyahay markuu raadreeb wanaagsan ka tago, but unfortunately isagoo la wada necebyahay buu cararary marka warkiisa meel iska tuur, infact i stopped bothering with his likes after the 26th january 1991.

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:32 am
by SahanGalbeed
Wallahi whatever he was or did , it worked out good for us at the end Al Hamdulilah.
We will never forget though , never , doesn't mean you can't forgive .

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB (Afwayne)

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:35 am
by Shirib
qoraxeey wrote:Conquueerrr .... he didnt fail in anything


also he did not just *cut* the ties with USSR aka Sovjet .... they back stabbed us :down: when they chose side with the axmaaro


also what was wrong with selling our fellow somalis ..in so called *isaaq* regions :? :? ... all of somalia belonged to all somalis .... that was Jaalle Siyaads idea :som:

he was human my dear, no one is perfect

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB (Afwayne)

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:38 am
by Thuganomics
Shirib wrote:
qoraxeey wrote:Conquueerrr .... he didnt fail in anything


also he did not just *cut* the ties with USSR aka Sovjet .... they back stabbed us :down: when they chose side with the axmaaro


also what was wrong with selling our fellow somalis ..in so called *isaaq* regions :? :? ... all of somalia belonged to all somalis .... that was Jaalle Siyaads idea :som:

he was human my dear, no one is perfect
You're talking to a "blonde"

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:43 pm
by daiman
Hero. God bless his soul and forgive his mistakes. we are all human at the end of the day and taking responsibitly is not easy at all.

but anyway, was not ali smatar who ordered the bombimg of hargeysa and not siad barre? ali samatar had duty of care to his soldiers, the somali national army though. I think, the usc and snm should be ashamed of themselve for destrying the somali national army. shame.

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:57 pm
by MujahidAishah
Liberating the ogaden :up:
Introducing the somali language

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:57 pm
by qoraxeey
Shirib


aabe siyaad is my hero :som: :som: :som: :som: .... my family had a good life when he ruled ...and we miss him so much ..... AUN AWOOWE SIYAAD


if he was still ruling today I wouldnt live in this cold ass country

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:01 pm
by AbdiWahab252
qoraxeey wrote:Shirib


aabe siyaad is my hero :som: :som: :som: :som: .... my family had a good life when he ruled ...and we miss him so much ..... AUN AWOOWE SIYAAD


if he was still ruling today I wouldnt live in this cold ass country
He would be dead by now, there are a few Somalis over 100 years old

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:02 pm
by qoraxeey
AbdiWahab252 wrote:[
He would be dead by now, there are a few Somalis over 100 years old

arent U over 100 :?

dhiimooo plz :lost: :lost:

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:04 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Qoraxey,

I hope you join me too :rose:

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:05 pm
by qoraxeey
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Qoraxey,

I hope you join me too :rose:

No ,,,,, I'd rather let U die alone :pacspit:


8-)

Re: Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:07 pm
by The`Republic
The Father of Modern Somalia.

The Heralder of Somali Freedom.

The Liberator of Somali lands.

The Civilizer of the Somali People.

His Excellency, Major General Jaale President Mohammed Siyaad Barre Abdille, God will reward you for all the good you have done for the singlularly most illiterate, backward people and culture on earth.

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