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I will prove it to you that even the Somalis back home themselves realize that we are different and don't really relate. Go there and they will immediately call you dhaqan celis. I've been a victim of this term countless times. I punched one kid who called me it and my family was forced to pay up some money for hitting the boy (another thing that is completely foreign to all of us) I've seen it with my own eyes of adult Somalis in their 40s being a victim to this term dhaqan celis in the middle of the street. How does that happen?

Invisible, that is true! You actually have to develop thick skin when you're there. However, I attribute the barrier to lack of education, so in the next 10 years give or take 5, I think it'll be relatively easier to settle back in inshallah.

Somalia doesnt need any of you marka hore, tan labaad the days of western world r numbered so it doesnt matter hadii aad isku dhejisaan iyo hadii kale.

i dont think 99 % of the people here share your view on this matter only the american Somalis will . I was born in the west there were no Somalis were i lived i was 14 years old when i saw the first somalis that weren't family member and i had to leave the country for that ive been to Somaliland 3 times ive fallen in love with the culture and the people here i cant see living my life somewhere else this is my country this where i belong .

Why are you even talking about samosa and laxox lol i know what somali culture is all about i blend it with the locals dont let me catch you sleeping in hargeysa i will shout sellout .

lool is that it because they called you daqan celis

It's not only that somali-americans are differnt, but somalis in somalia are changing too. A lot can change in a country in twenty years of lawlessness walaal. Practices, doctrines, systems, and culture change. For the love of god there are girls being stoned to death in the stadium of xamar. would that have happened under the rule of the father of somalia, siyaad barre? I dont think so. So before you start attacking diaspora and saying that we dont have dhaqan, you should also look to the country itself.

Alshabaibe wrote:Invisible, that is true! You actually have to develop thick skin when you're there. However, I attribute the barrier to lack of education, so in the next 10 years give or take 5, I think it'll be relatively easier to settle back in inshallah.

You are the very few to admit this. Good job

rich-boy wrote:i dont think 99 % of the people here share your view on this matter only the american Somalis will . I was born in the west there were no Somalis were i lived i was 14 years old when i saw the first somalis that weren't family member and i had to leave the country for that ive been to Somaliland 3 times ive fallen in love with the culture and the people here i cant see living my life somewhere else this is my country this where i belong .

Why are you even talking about samosa and laxox lol i know what somali culture is all about i blend it with the locals dont let me catch you sleeping in hargeysa i will shout sellout .

lool is that it because they called you daqan celis

That is possibly why you felt this belonging back home. You were the only Somali and possibly the only Black dude where you lived. it takes more than family to learn about your somali culture. It could be the same feeling that African Americans feel; "where am I from", "what is my identity". You possibly had a little bit of an identity crisis You were possibly willing to block out all the differences (even the uncomfortable ones) between your place of birth and Hargeisa in order to understand and figure out who you were. just kidding. I think you are just the rare exception. The motherland might not regard me as one of them and shun me but I own that city. I am the king

herndonhomer wrote:It's not only that somali-americans are differnt, but somalis in somalia are changing too. A lot can change in a country in twenty years of lawlessness walaal. Practices, doctrines, systems, and culture change. For the love of god there are girls being stoned to death in the stadium of xamar. would that have happened under the rule of the father of somalia, siyaad barre? I dont think so. So before you start attacking diaspora and saying that we dont have dhaqan, you should also look to the country itself.

Same thing in 1980 and 2012 regarding culture.

how are Americans Somalis different than the rest of the diaspora. You talking about alshaab they terrorist you cant use that example im not attacking the diaspora nor im i saying you don't have daqan im just saying you should love your country .So if the country was stable with a functioning government would you go back ?

rich-boy wrote:how are Americans Somalis different than the rest of the diaspora. You talking about alshaab they terrorist you cant use that example im not attacking the diaspora nor im i saying you don't have daqan im just saying you should love your country .So if the country was stable with a functioning government would you go back ?

What if you've never been there in the first place? What ties you to it apart from ethnicity, language and religion?

ethnicity, language religion and your family what more do you want to feel like you belong there .


InvisibleHand lol i wasn't the only black just the only Somali some even never heard about Somalia they thought i was from Mali

Grandmum Khaliifa,
Please do not evoke my name when I rarely even interact with your ass in this forum anymore. My political affilation or the charities I partake is none of your business either. Don't drug me into your battles

America is very different from European countries because here you feel you are part and parcel of the population, your ideas and intellect is respected, encouraged, and developed. Ownership in thought, matters, and property is the hallmark of this great nation. Where European refugees are treated like shit and relegated to live in sub-human conditions in their respective countries, the Somalis in America are striving in education, business, and politics. We have come to accept that America does not belong to the white man, unlike Europe, but that they are immigrants just like us who were fortunate enough to get here before we did.

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles über alles in der Welt,

Sagaashan wrote:America is very different from European countries because here you feel you are part and parcel of the population, your ideas and intellect is respected, encouraged, and developed. Ownership in thought, matters, and property is the hallmark of this great nation. Where European refugees are treated like shit and relegated to live in sub-human conditions in their respective countries, the Somalis in America are striving in education, business, and politics. We have come to accept that America does not belong to the white man, unlike Europe, but that they are immigrants just like us who were fortunate enough to get here before we did.

Speak for yourself mate. I love Britain.

London

InvisibleHand wrote:GrandpaKhalif,

I am assuming you were either born in the West or left Somalia at a very early age.

You should take a 1 month visit to Somalia to get the biggest eye opener ever. Forget about the horrible living conditions, the thought that you can't get a McFlurry on a hot day or turn on a tap to get clean water (because a man on a donkey brings it to you in a 30 gallon plastic barrel filled with cholera bacterium). A few hours into your trip and you will see that you share nothing with these people other than ethnicity and religion.

Speak for yourself mate .. I turn on the tap in my house in hargeisa i get clean tap water... Wen its hot i go to keyse bushaaro for my ice cream... I walk through my xafaad and get treated the same as everyone else and i relate to them ... If u think that just coz ur frm the west that your better than ppl that why they hate on. And call u dhaqan celis

Life in somalia well always be better than this shithole we call the west