Dr Yalaxow was right about the saudi royal family

[ZubeirAwal]

Grandpakhalif beenale, Axmed ibn Saud and his forces from najd invaded hijaz, taif medina and they killed alot of Ahlul bayt, the demolished the tomb of hamza aswell as alot of companions, in the end of his bloody campaign he said no one can go pass the prophets tomb and stand, they must go past and say asalamu alaykum ya muhammad. and this all happened when the ottoman caliphs were in Cairo, and when they returned Allahu Akbar they killed those who came with their fassad, only to return 100 years later, IBN SAUD, being payed £5,000 by the british to go against Allah and the caliphate, the Saudi Arabia Kingdom, Wallahi all of them are the worst munaafiqs in history, May Allah curse them all, they shake hands with the Yahuuds and the Nasaar behind the scenes, kiss george bush the man who killed 1 million iraqis. you think this kingdom is blessed? its the Jahils and Imam Mahdi will restore the true Khalifa with Isa binu Maryam.

TeaAMO. Sister understand that the KHALIFA that came in 632, was brought to a shameful end in 1924 thanks to Saudi Arabia who allied themselves with britain and warred with the only legitimate government in all of islam.


the KSA is a curse to the Ummah.

I'm fully aware of that and Allah will punish or forgive their family for what they have done. I've never really liked the Saudi Royal family but I like what is now known as Saudi Arabia because it is the land of Islam and the prophet not because of the royal family.

If that is what you want to refer it to, however if you want to visit carabta, never visit riyaadh, the best places are the towns and cities in the Xaramain.

What i meant to say is the State Saudi Arabia is the most hypocritical state in the world, when i say this, i don't include the hijaz.

[ZubeirAwal]

This is what the prophet said about these neo-salafis

Nearing Qiyamah there will be a Group of people who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the true Religion of Islam as fast as an arrow leaves the bow. They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal, when you meet them you will discover their nature and character, the worst of its kind.”(

This guy is one of the neo-salafis, look at how he fits the description of what the prophet gave.




Wallahi these salafis, 3iil baa i haysta

[FAH1223]

[Thuganomics]

didn't know the Riyadh watering hole encompassed half of Arabia.

Well when you revise history of course you going to exaggerate sxb.The Saudi family influence did not reach the expanse of that map you posted.Before they revolted against the Othaman Caliphate.So yes they lived in and around the watering hole of Riyadh and it's environs


Another map of the Arabian Peninsula and no mention of the Saudis

http://www.muhammadanism.org/maps/arabia_zwemer.gif

[grandpakhalif]

This is what the prophet said about these neo-salafis

Nearing Qiyamah there will be a Group of people who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the true Religion of Islam as fast as an arrow leaves the bow. They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal, when you meet them you will discover their nature and character, the worst of its kind.”(

This guy is one of the neo-salafis, look at how he fits the description of what the prophet gave.




Wallahi these salafis, 3iil baa i haysta

Brother you are doing something very dangerous and with little ilm. You take a statement of the Prophet (SAW) and lambast on this good preaching brother on youtube and apply it to him erogenously. You should make istighfaar.

[TeAmo]

Abuukar fear Allah and stop talking out of your ass. How do you know he is referring to the followers of the Salaf? Even if the Caliphate never got destroyed they would be followers of the Salaf. Just as the Saudis do today. You have gone from attacking the rulers of Saudi to the attacking Muslims who do nothing but worship Allah. Maybe you have seen a few youth who claim to be followers of the Salaf but instead refute scholars without knowledge and refute every Muslim and tell ppl that they are kafirs. Don't judge a perfect way of life by a couple of youth who think its fashion to be on deen. Allahu Musta'an

[Thuganomics]

I like what is now known as Saudi Arabia because it is the land of Islam and the prophet not because of the royal family.

Can't argue with that.You are right it'.Hijaz has a special place in all of our hearts as Muslims because of the two holy mosques.As well as the whole history that comes with it

[ZubeirAwal]

Abuukar fear Allah and stop talking out of your ass. How do you know he is referring to the followers of the Salaf? Even if the Caliphate never got destroyed they would be followers of the Salaf. Just as the Saudis do today. You have gone from attacking the rulers of Saudi to the attacking Muslims who do nothing but worship Allah. Maybe you have seen a few youth who claim to be followers of the Salaf but instead refute scholars without knowledge and refute every Muslim and tell ppl that they are kafirs. Don't judge a perfect way of life by a couple of youth who think its fashion to be on deen. Allahu Musta'an

the Salafis are known for their extreme ignorance in the deen, they take everything in the qur'an and interpret it literally, and the hadiths too, such as the prophet saying anything below the ankles is in the hell fire, now they are wearing khamises up to the knees, is that really necessary?, they also make atroucious statements such as doing dhikr with a group chanting YA ALLAH, is bid'a, and that asking the prophet to intercede for you is bid'a, basically everything is bid'a according to what Ibn Baaz gave them, unlike salafis i'm a original somali who follows the main madhab of somalis, the Shafi madhab and someone who engages in tassawuf, which is also bid'a according to salafis.

You can't take the deen and tell everyone you are doing this and that wrong, that is bs.

[ZubeirAwal]

This is what the prophet said about these neo-salafis

Nearing Qiyamah there will be a Group of people who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the true Religion of Islam as fast as an arrow leaves the bow. They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal, when you meet them you will discover their nature and character, the worst of its kind.”(

This guy is one of the neo-salafis, look at how he fits the description of what the prophet gave.




Wallahi these salafis, 3iil baa i haysta

Brother you are doing something very dangerous and with little ilm. You take a statement of the Prophet (SAW) and lambast on this good preaching brother on youtube and apply it to him erogenously. You should make istighfaar.

That so called brother is someone who mocks sufis, makes videos such as "Beware of Sheikh Hamza, Hamza yusuf collects kids and makes a gathering and they are all chanting Allah Allah" What kind of reasoning is that? Chanting Allah's name will draw you nearer to him, when Allah gives you 3ilm you can see hadiths and ayahs fitting with these kind of situations, Salafi Da3wah is to tell every muslim their doing shirk and bid3ah and that they need to follow them or go to hell.

[Thuganomics]

Waryaa Abubokor they are Muslims nonetheless.They have legitimate daliils fir all their actions
You can't make Takfiir on them

[ZubeirAwal]

Waryaa Abubokor they are Muslims nonetheless.They have legitimate daliils fir all their actions
You can't make Takfiir on them

I'm talking about the Shuyukh, those who say these things not the general public, the ones who sit on top and fund salafi doctirnes and preach this stuff to kids.

[TeAmo]

Abuukar

1.) You need to know that there are a lot of hizbies out their who claim salaffiya

2.) That innocent shaykh that you wrongfully used as an example shaved his head because it's haram to copy the kafir and get fades he is probably waiting for it to grow back evenly. Besides the hair is shaven when you go haj or umrah how do u know he hasnt come back from one of those? I'm sure you remember the Hadith Muslims will start to copy the kafirs that it will get to a point that if they enter a Lizard hole they will follow them.

3.) I've never seen a Muslim who wears they khamis to their knees whether he is upon Salaffiya or not so fear Allah stop making up lies.

4.) it is haram to intercede upon anyone whether the prophet (saw) or otherwise you only call upon Allah. The prophet (saw) is dead why do you need him to intercede for u when ur alive and u can pray to Allah? The prophet was not a special being he was a human like all of us who was blessed by Allah to become our beloved prophet Salalahu aleyhi wasalaam. In Islam Allah comes 1st prophet comes 2nd so you always call upon Allah and now that our beloved prophet is dead he is DEAD and you do not ask him or anyone else to intercede for u! U have a mouth and hands and feet that Allah has given u to worship and call upon him he didn't give those to u so u can call upon a human that he created to speak to Allah on your behalf go and pray and make dua yourself! subhana'Allah nowhere in the Quran or hadeeths have I seen calling on the dead being part of the deen.

5.) As for the brother he is not the one who titles these videos I'm sure you are aware other do this and sometimes even put clips together making it look like its a full lecture.

6.) As for Hamza Yusuf is concerned he is refuted by scholars upon the Sunnah and Quran. As for Sufis aren't they the ones who murdered Uthman Ibn Affan?

[Thuganomics]

Waryaa Abubokor they are Muslims nonetheless.They have legitimate daliils fir all their actions
You can't make Takfiir on them

I'm talking about the Shuyukh, those who say these things not the general public, the ones who sit on top and fund salafi doctirnes and preach this stuff to kids.

Even more so.Only a Sheikh can refute another Sheikh.You'd have to reach the level of a Mushtahid to even start questioning.Culema and their fatwas.That is if these Sheikh you are talking about are themselves muftis and not weekend/internet "Culema "

@ Sufis murdering Othman.TeAmo stop making blanket statements without knowing the whole story

[ZubeirAwal]

Thuganomics, i know my behaviour was not good, i just realized how i am in nowhere in position to stand toe to toe with sheikhs, thats if i persue a sheikh lifestyle if a future. Astaghfirullah, lakin wallahi my stance on this protestant version of islam won't change.

TeaAmo your crazy in the head, the prophet muhammad every single day an angel brings the deeds of every muslim and when he sees something good he says Alhamdulilah and if he sees something bad he asks allah to forgive that person.

This is what the Salafis do, " The prophets dead " us Sufis see the prophet's passing away as a passing to the other world, we still feel his spiritual presence as we are his Ummah, infact the prophet sometimes appears to people whilst their awake as he said.

As for the prophet being 'dead'

I happened to pass by Moses (عليه السلام) on the occasion of the Night journey near the red mound (and found him) saying his prayer in his Grave. [Sahih Muslim Book 030

Prophets are alive in their graves, they are not like other humans, their physical body doesn't even decay, in a spiritual sense the prophet muhammad is still present in this dunya

Allah has prohibited the Earth from consuming the bodies of the prophets; so Allah's prophet is alive and given provision. [Sunan Ibn Maja Volume 001: Hadith Number 1627]

It is attributed to ‘Abdullāh bin Mas‘ūd that the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is reported to have said:

My life is blissful for you because you hear traditions from people and relate them to others and my death is also blissful for you because your deeds will be presented to me. If I see the virtues prevail, I will be grateful to Allah, and if I see the vices prevail, I will pray for your forgiveness from Allah.

References

►Haythamī transmitted it in Majma‘-uz-zawā’id (9:24) and said that that tradition had been reported by Bazzār (in his Musnad) and its sub-narrators are all of sahīh (sound) hadith.

►‘Irāqī has confirmed the soundness of its transmission in his book Tarh-ut-tathrīb fī sharh-it-taqrīb (3:297)

►Ibn Sa‘d has recorded it in at-Tabaqāt-ul-kubrā (2:194)

►Qādī ‘Iyād has inscribed this tradition in ash-Shifā (1:19)


►al-Bazzar from the hadith of Ibn Mas`ud with a sound (sahih) chain.

The prophet is alive in his grave, and wallahi i ask him as much as i want, ya rasullalah, ask allah to forgive me.


you salafis say its halal only in yawmul qiyama, what use is it then?

wallahi 3iil ba i haya.

[TeAmo]

Thug I didn't say they totally did it However I do remember reading it was a Sufi who did and I have 2 different books both are the biography of the last caliphate Uthman bin Affan so I know the full story. Allahu Alam