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[ZubeirAwal]

Calling upon Rasulalah to make intercession is bida3? read this sahih hadith

It is related from Malik al-Dar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) , `Umar's (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) treasurer, that the people suffered a drought during the successorship of `Umar, (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) whereupon a man came to the grave of the Prophet and said: "O Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم), ask for rain for your Community, for verily they have but perished," after which the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) appeared to him in a dream and told him: "Go to `Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) and give him my greeting, then tell him that they will be watered. Tell him: You must be clever (cautious), you must be clever (cautious)!" The man went and told `Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ). The latter said: "O my Lord, I spare no effort except in what escapes my power!"


If i ask the prophet to ask Allah to forgive me, there is no wrong in that.

I follow the practices of the prophet, and his companions and those who lived in the golden age of islam.

[witheredfleur]

Calling upon Rasulalah to make intercession is bida3? read this sahih hadith

It is related from Malik al-Dar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) , `Umar's (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) treasurer, that the people suffered a drought during the successorship of `Umar, (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) whereupon a man came to the grave of the Prophet and said: "O Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم), ask for rain for your Community, for verily they have but perished," after which the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) appeared to him in a dream and told him: "Go to `Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) and give him my greeting, then tell him that they will be watered. Tell him: You must be clever (cautious), you must be clever (cautious)!" The man went and told `Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ). The latter said: "O my Lord, I spare no effort except in what escapes my power!"


If i ask the prophet to ask Allah to forgive me, there is no wrong in that.

I follow the practices of the prophet, and his companions and those who lived in the golden age of islam.

Omg dude... Islam is amazing because we have a direct link to our Creator. Why on earth would you feel the need to ask the Prophet saw (a human like us) for something when you can ask Allah swt (the one who created us all and everything) directly through like dua...?

[ZubeirAwal]

Im not saying you must, i'm saying if you wish to you can, you do know that the closest creation to Allah is the prophet and that if he asks Allah for forgiveness of any of Allahs servents Allah will forgive because of his sake of mercy (the prophet).

The sahaba did it, so can i, its not mandatory, nor can you call it shirk.

[Somaliman50]

abuubakar, bro once again i will advise you to study under teachers and not to read from books with your own judgements.

[ZubeirAwal]

abuubakar, bro once again i will advise you to study under teachers and not to read from books with your own judgements.

It is a hadith in sahih bukhari..

[Basra-]

Wow, union aka witheredfleur ----REALLY??? U pathetic son of an atheist Who.re!

[witheredfleur]

Oh ok.. I've just never heard of such a thing before is all

[witheredfleur]

Wow, union aka witheredfleur ----REALLY??? U pathetic son of an atheist Who.re!

loooooooooooooooooool wtf go away you old creep. I've read old threads by you and really, you are a complete and utter freak. Stay away from me

[witheredfleur]

Athiest? Wow ayeeyo

[Somaliman50]

abuubakar, bro once again i will advise you to study under teachers and not to read from books with your own judgements.

It is a hadith in sahih bukhari..

which hadith? the one you posted about the man who asked the rasool (though he wasnt alive) for rain? Give me the reference, i have the entire collection of sahih bukhari in my house and i will see if that hadith is in there.

[Basra-]

witheredfleur aka union

ok--i will go away, i dont want to smell the odor of an obese bison atheist.

[grandpakhalif]

Something is defintely wrong with this chick

[Basra-]

grandpa

Hi Maacnto. Give me a kiss.

[witheredfleur]

Who the hell is union? Throwing around old nicks, you need to retire from snet asap

[ZubeirAwal]

abuubakar, bro once again i will advise you to study under teachers and not to read from books with your own judgements.

It is a hadith in sahih bukhari..

which hadith? the one you posted about the man who asked the rasool (though he wasnt alive) for rain? Give me the reference, i have the entire collection of sahih bukhari in my house and i will see if that hadith is in there.

My mistake it is narrated with sahih Isnad in Fath al Bari of Imam Ibn Hajr al Asqalani, Imam Ibn Kathir also called its Isnad as sahih in Al Bidayah wan Nihaya

But seriously

This tradition establishes the following principles:

1. Visiting graves with the intention of mediation and seeking help.

2. It is valid to visit the grave of a pious dead person during the period of one’s trials and tribulations to seek help from him because if this act were invalid, ‘Umar would surely have forbidden that person to do so.

3. The Prophet’s appearance in the dream of the person who visited his grave and to give him good tidings, argues in favour of the fact that it is quite valid to seek help from non-Allah and the dead because if it were invalid, it would have been impossible for the Prophet not to have forbidden that person to do so.

4. Validation of the mode of address “O Messenger of Allah (yā rasūl Allah)” even after his death.

5. Call for help and the act of intermediation dates back to the early ages.

6. The holy personality of the Prophet is a fountain of guidance even after his death.

7. The head of the state is responsible for administrative matters. The Holy Prophet , in spite of being the chief of prophets, did not break the state channel and, as a visible demonstration of his sense of discipline, he commanded the man visiting his grave to see the head of the state.

8. The man visiting the grave implored his help through the instrumentality of the Ummah. This shows the Prophet’s immeasurable love for the Community of his followers.

9. Justification for making the Ummah as a source for seeking his help.

10. Justification for making non-prophet a means of help in the presence of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم

11. Anyone who strengthens his link with the Holy Prophet is rewarded by his sight and is showered with his blessings.

12. The Holy Prophet , even after his death, is aware of the weakness of his Ummah or anyone of its rulers and he issues different commands for removing these flaws.

13. To seek guidance from Allah’s favourites.

14. The acknowledgement of the Prophet’s commands by the Companions after his death as just and truthful.

15. Imposition of commands received in dreams on others.

16. When intermediation was discussed in the presence of ‘Umar bin al-Khattāb, he did not forbid it; rather he cried and responded to it acknowledging it as valid.

17. ‘Umar bin al-Khattāb’s love for the Holy Prophet that he incessantly cried as someone mentioned the Holy Prophet



How do we refute this?