Somalia: Mogadishu Cannot Dictate to Jubbaland

[CaliBurco]

Lol, koonfurians.

[GIJaamac]

Dear somali people . There is no jubbaland at this moment and there will be no such thing UNLESS HG will be given first or second position in fictitious "Jubbaland". You somali people of jubbooyinka can decide wether Jubbaland will be a imaginary cyber dream or real federal state by satisfying beesha HG. Thats the way it is. The ball is on you court.

[abgaalKING]

Unlike the those in Baydhabo and Beledweyne vying for a stand alone region which can be directly administered from Muqdisho, those in Kismaayo and Jubaland as a whole want a local rule much like Puntland and not one dictated from Muqdisho. Another point that is important to mention is the close ties between Raxanweyn and Hawiye, while those in Baydhabo and Beledweyne have faith in Muqdisho under a Hawiye president, those in KIsmaayo and Garowe have no faith in it and vice verse.

Lool,Nice Try,These same clans (Hawiye and Rahanweyn) live and have a claim on jubba,Including them in the Adminstration is must and if they dont feel uncomfortable with a clan state dictated by the refugees then they can reject it on voluntary basis.
Hawiye have shed blood and will shed blood for jubba ,cry all you like.

[abgaalKING]

Dear somali people . There is no jubbaland at this moment and there will be no such thing UNLESS HG will be given first or second position in fictitious "Jubbaland". You somali people of jubbooyinka can decide wether Jubbaland will be a imaginary cyber dream or real federal state by satisfying beesha HG. Thats the way it is. The ball is on you court.

This is not a Diplomatic Language To use,You need To Learn How To Approach This Issue Intellectually.HG will Definitely Play a Role in jubboyinka Just Like their Allies Marehan,They live in kismayo,own bussiness and are part and parcel of the Social Fabric of the City.Inclusion of Hg will Occur under the Framework of Consultation With Hawiye.

[metamorphosis]

Meta, but xamar has a gudomiya we are not talking about fixing anything but naming people.

Do i really have to simplify this any further? President hassan isnt making independent decisions. He cant do anything for kismaayo while hamar is under the protection of amison. The guy is a joke. He has no powers in hamar why should he in kismaayo?

[metamorphosis]

At least siyad barre didnt need amison troops to rule somalia.

[greenday]

Meta, like i said it is not about who controls the cities but weather he can name a gudomiye for and you are not giving me a reason as to why. Since he has no control in any city why cant they all be the same to him?


As for Siyaad Barre he took peoples kindness for weakness. you should not take peoples loyalty for granted.

[DANGIRL]

Reading comprehension is solely lacking in this thread.

[metamorphosis]

Say what you will about siyad barre but the current guy will never be 1/3 of msb.

[greenday]

Say what you will about siyad barre but the current guy will never be 1/3 of msb.

Amiin to that.

[GIJaamac]

Dear somali people . There is no jubbaland at this moment and there will be no such thing UNLESS HG will be given first or second position in fictitious "Jubbaland". You somali people of jubbooyinka can decide wether Jubbaland will be a imaginary cyber dream or real federal state by satisfying beesha HG. Thats the way it is. The ball is on you court.

This is not a Diplomatic Language To use,You need To Learn How To Approach This Issue Intellectually.HG will Definitely Play a Role in jubboyinka Just Like their Allies Marehan,They live in kismayo,own bussiness and are part and parcel of the Social Fabric of the City.Inclusion of Hg will Occur under the Framework of Consultation With Hawiye.

[Transformer]

Abgaalking, If you have a claim, then go join the ongoing talks in Kismaayo. If you rather be breast fed by the spoilers in Muqdisho brewing hostility between locals in Kismaayo and Jubaland as a whole, that you can do too but you'll only risk becoming just another cricket noise in the background. This is process arbitrated by IGAD and sponsored by the international community, your going to have to prove your worth with evidence and not the usual hearsay.

[Murax]

People just love to argue for the sake of arguing My gosh.


I live in Virginia, part of the USA a FEDERAL State. President Obama in Washington DC which is minutes away Has never, ever named a "Maamul" for Virginia. He Has never elected Senate, has never elected Congress for them. Virginian voters go to the poll and chose their senators and congressmen just like all the other 49 other States. As for Jubbaland, that is how its going to be the locals from Gedo, Middle Jubba, Lower Jubba will come together and chose their Administration just as it is laid out in the constitution. This was confirmed by the PM and any rational Somali who knows what the ending of the transition means. Forming a Federal State within the Federal Republic of Somalia with its seat in Mogadishu is NOT secession or rebelling. This thread should be closed there is nothing to discuss.

[grandpakhalif]

Mr. turtle is not gonna name an admin for kismayo he is not from kismayo but from hawiye hinterlands, he does not represent us and our interests.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Meta, like i said it is not about who controls the cities but weather he can name a gudomiye for and you are not giving me a reason as to why. Since he has no control in any city why cant they all be the same to him?


As for Siyaad Barre he took peoples kindness for weakness. you should not take peoples loyalty for granted.

It is not MSB's fault that u have nothing but rocks in ur head. Its is not his fault that ur refugee in ur own country,
"Xamar unuka iskaleh" maxey ka dambayey