Imaam Axmed Al-Ghaazi and Nuur Mujaahid and Mareexaan claim

[ZubeirAwal]

Warsame the arrival of Sheikh Isaaq was in the 1320's and he died in 1327 , this is written in evident arabic manuscripts in yemen,

Some important scans off books that were written by/or about Sheikh Isaaq's migration to Ardul Somal.






It was in an index of University of Michigan , amongst other scans of old books collected in Yemen and Sudan.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bazilla/ ... h%20Ishaq/

Anyone can translate these?

نبذة عن ال اسحاق وأنسابهم وفروعهم كما وردت في مؤلفات وبحوث الشيخ :
- صالح بن سهل بن عبدالسلام طيب الله ثراه



أولا. آل إسحاق الطالبيون هم من أحفاد الأمام علي بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنة وهم عدة فروع


ثانياً. آل إسحاق العباسيون وهم من أحفاد سيدنا العباس عم النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من أبناء إسحاق بن عيسى
بن موسى بن محمد بن علي بن عبد الله بن العباس رضي الله عنه

ثالثاً. آل إسحاق البكريون وهم من قرابة أبي طلحة بن عبد الرحمن بن أبي بكر الصديق رضي الله عنه

رابعاً. آل إسحاق الكنديون وهم فرعين رئيسيين وهما
أ- أبناء إسحاق بن سعيد بن محمد بن أحمد بن عمر بن شيبان الكندي
ب- بناء إسحاق بن محمد بن الأشعث بن قيس الكندي، وينتشر هؤلاء في شبه الجزيرة العربية وبلاد الشام والعراق ومصر وفي كثير من بلدان العالم


آل إسحاق الطالبيون

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من هم آل إسحاق الطالبيون



هم من أحفاد الإمام علي بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه وهم عدة فروع نذكر منها على سبيل المثال لا الحصر :

1- أبناء الإمام إسحاق المؤتمن بن جعفر الصادق رضي الله عنه .

2- أبناء إسحاق بن محمد النقيب بن علي بن جعفرالصادق

3- أبناء إسحاق بن موسى الكاظم بن عيسى بن محمد بن علي بن جعفر الصادق .

وتوجد من هؤلاء ما يزيد على إحدى عشر أسرة الجد الأول فيها يسمى ( إسحاق ) وتتميز الأســر بعضها عــن بعض أما باللقب أو بالجد الثاني الذي يلي ( إسحاق ) مثل آل إسحاق حضرموت يقال لهم آل عامر نسبة لجـدهم الشيخ عامر بن إسحاق .

وكذلك آل إسحاق ( نجران ) يقال لهم الاسماعليون نسبة لجدهم إسماعيل بن محمد بن إسحاق إبن جعفر الصادق وآخرون يقال لهم بنو إسحاق وهم أبناء إسحاق بن أحمد بن محمد ابن حسين المتوفى بمدينة ميط بشمال الصومال وغيرهم كثيرون والله أعلم . وينقسم آل إسحاق الطالبيون إلى قسمين رئيسيين هما :



1- آل إسحاق ( السادة )

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ويسكن أغلبية هؤلاء بالعراق والحجاز ومنهم السادة آل ردعان وآل منصور وآل مطهر ويسكنون باليمن وقسم يوجــد بحضرموت وهم أبنا إسحاق بن صالح بن عقيل بن عمر بن شيخ يرجــع نسبهم إلــى السيد علوي بن محمد ( مولى الدويلة ) و يوجد قسم كبير منهم بالصومال وهم كما أشرنا من سلالة إسحاق بن أحمد بن محمد ابن حسين المتوفى بمدينة ميط بشمال الصومال سنة hijra 727 وقبره معروف بها .

2- آل إسحاق ( المشائخ )

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ويقال لهم آل عامر نسبة إلى جدهم الشيخ عامر بن إسحاق ويسكن هؤلاء بمدينة هينن وبعض مدن حضرموت الأخرى كما توجد فخيذة منهم بوادي بيحان واسم منصبهم ناصر بن بخيت وفخيذه أخرى بوادي براد بالقبلة وهم أبناء سهل بن أحمد ويحي بن أحمد ويقال لهم آل سهيل واسم منصبهم عامر بن سعيد بن إسحاق .

وفخيذة في شرق اليمن واسم منصبهم حسين بن علي بن عبد الكريم بن إسحاق .

كذلك هاجرت بعض الأسر إلى الحجاز وشمال آسيا وأفريقيا وغيرها من بلدان العالم وسموا بالمشائخ لأنهم مشائخ علم وشيوخ عشائر وهؤلا هم المقصودين الحديث عنهم



من كتابات الشيخ صالح بن سهل بن عبدالسلام ال اسحاق غفر الله له
منقول من مخطوطة الغربانب السيد الشريف محمد ابن احمد الغرباني وهذه المخطوطه مختومه من قبل نقباء الاشراف و اشراف اليمن وامامها الامام يحيى حميد الدين في عام 1330ه.
تحفة الزمان المسجد المنطوم لتاريخ والعلوم لمحمد بن حسن البصري .
تحفة المشتاق في نسب الاسحاقين عبد الرحمن بن علي .
زمرة المشتاق في نسب الشريف اسحاق لمبيد النضيري البراوي . .

Translation of bold text ' google translator

And live the majority of these in Iraq and the Hijaz, including Messrs. Al Rdaan and all Mansour and Al antiseptic and live in Yemen and department there Hadramout They son Isaac bin Saleh bin Aqeel bin Omar bin Sheikh due lineage to Mr. Alawi bin Mohammed (sire Duwailah) and there is a large section of them in Somalia and they also noted the strain Ishaq bin Ahmed bin Mohammed Ibn Hussein deceased northern city Amit Somalia years 727 HIJRA ( 1327 A.D) and his grave is unknown

Translation of other bold text

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منقول من مخطوطة الغربانب السيد الشريف محمد ابن احمد الغرباني وهذه المخطوطه مختومه من قبل نقباء الاشراف و اشراف اليمن وامامها الامام يحيى حميد الدين في عام 1330ه.
تحفة الزمان المسجد المنطوم لتاريخ والعلوم لمحمد بن حسن البصري .
تحفة المشتاق في نسب الاسحاقين عبد الرحمن بن علي .
زمرة المشتاق في نسب الشريف اسحاق لمبيد النضيري البراوي . "


Moved from Agharbanb manuscript Mr. Sharif Muhammad ibn Ahmad Agharbana this manuscript sealed by the captains supervision and supervision of Yemen and in front of Imam Yahya Hamid al-Din in 1330 AH.
Masterpiece decade mosque Almnthom to the history and science of the Mohammed bin Hassan Basri.
Masterpiece Almstaq in ratios Alashakin Abdul Rahman Bin Ali.
Clique Almstaq ratios Sharif Isaac the pesticide Alnderi Barrawi.

[Siciid85]

Lady col learn and observe how your Cagdheer people were defeated, if today you weren't under the full protection of Ethiopia i would have pimp slapped you as usual
and taken Qabri Dahare, Godey etc. You should thank your Kikuyu and Habashi masters.

garxajiis making threads to Ogaden? Where is the world going to
.

Who is making threads about Ogs? do you mean posts? you uneducated neanderthal. Always remember this before you open your gob.

[metamorphosis]

Lady col learn and observe how your Cagdheer people were defeated, if today you weren't under the full protection of Ethiopia i would have pimp slapped you as usual
and taken Qabri Dahare, Godey etc. You should thank your Kikuyu and Habashi masters.

We have reer isaq and makahiil for you. The rest of us will watch from the sidelines as they karbaash you. Remember when makahiil made you say "ma tobanka abraahiin baa inaga tol roonaaday?"

[Thuganomics]

A lot of long held (1969-to present day) believes been exposed and ridiculed False and sham history been debunked these days

[Eaglehawk]

people are not serious, this thread has an aura of bitterness and tribal undertone

[Eaglehawk]

DP

[Siciid85]

Makahiil, Reer Isaaq, Reer Abdille etc have all been karbashed and lost lands to us throughout history. Reer Isaaq lost Daroor to us, Makahiil lost vast areas of Danood district to
us, Reer Cabdille lost areas in northern Gashaamo and elsewhere.

We are coming for Godey. You can hide behind Kikuyos and Habeshas if you want.

[X.Playa]

That Haaruun garaad who was killed during the Daroor wars in the 18860-1870's was named Cali Garaad now when he died Yuusuf Garaad became the Haaruun Garaad, Yuusuf was the father of Cabdi Garaad the man who saved the Mullah during the Gurdumi assasination attempt in sept 1900. But Daarood would have non of it., it was normal to die during wars. Daroor , Moholin , Ceel Baxay , caused the death of many sultans , and cadiddates for a sultan such as Warsame Sultaan Faarax just weeks before he was announced a sultan he died in a battle in Daroor area, other who died during Ogaadeen wars are Ismaaciil Amaan , and sultaan Cawd Sultaan Diiriye and many other Ogaadeens, as recent as 1930's the Ogaadeen garaad Ina Geesole ( Ina Nuur Siyaad ) was also killed in the Hawd.

[Coldoon]

Lady col learn and observe how your Cagdheer people were defeated, if today you weren't under the full protection of Ethiopia i would have pimp slapped you as usual
and taken Qabri Dahare, Godey etc. You should thank your Kikuyu and Habashi masters.

We have reer isaq and makahiil for you. The rest of us will watch from the sidelines as they karbaash you. Remember when makahiil made you say "ma tobanka abraahiin baa inaga tol roonaaday?"

[The`Republic]

Grand Opening....Grand Closing.

[DayaxJeclee]

Xul iyo Lux

[sadeboi]

xkeyse this a responce to you i have no time for the little girl saciido infriority complex discussing marexaan in somaliland section

al ghazi is not a name its a title
why do you lot think that habar magdli is isaaq, do you know somalis have a lot of habar magadle and some even became bah magadle
ogadeen have it and other dir clans have it too

show me ahmed gerri hussein in the isaaq abtirisi ( there is assumption that the habar magadale isaaq and habar magdi in futah al habash are the same, proof and show me the abtirisi in isaaq where ahmed gerri hussein shows up

the futah al habash mentions harti but doesn`t mention isaaq as a clan and there is a reason why habar habusheed and isaaq as a name are not mentioned in futah al habash

ghazi [ˈgɑːzɪ]
n pl -zis
1. (Non-Christian Religions / Islam) a Muslim fighter against infidels
2. (Non-Christian Religions / Islam) (often capital) a Turkish warrior of high rank

You are not making any sense at all , the entire somalis know who are Habar Magaadle or Habar Maqdi and those are the 4 decenats of sheekh's Isxaaq's Magaadle wife while the four others are from his Xabuusho wife (I.M.Lewis made those connection easily some 60 years ago, in his book People of The Horn). Demanding what sub sub sub sub modern family Garaad Xuseen Giiri or Garaad Dawud is traced by, is as silly as demanding Garaad Absame Mataan or Goita Tedorour's modern decendants, thats beyond the ability of the forum or of even an individual Daarood or Isaaq person. Its a well known recorded fact that Habar Maqdi/Magaadle are the four modern Isaaq clans , and the Maqdi or Magaadle clan is the modern clan in Sanaag region which have a tarditional sultan till today, but you been a Walaweyn and a southern Daarood probably would know non of these basic facts.

Warsame,

what the modern somalis call a man that lived in the 1500's is not reliable , whats needed is wether any historian called him as such , for its easy to confuse Axmed Giri/Gurey with Imaam Axmed just like I.M.Leiws pointed out and concluded that most somalis consfuse the Magaadle cheif Axmed Girii with the non-somali Imaam Axmed .

Not true, we know.

[Kukri]

people are not serious, this thread has an aura of bitterness and tribal undertone

[X.Playa]

Why are the Kacaan crew reluctant to share this top secret document proving that Imaam Axmed and emir Nuur are Mareexaan? sadeboi, warsame101 and voltage , care to divulge the document where Rene Basset calims Nuur was a Mareexaan ?? we are going only take a peek we are not going to steal this treasure .

[sadeboi]

X.playa you used to be fun back in the day lately you've become depressed or something, like warsame said go back to the same debates that we had years ago and once you find something new let us know.

Sincerely,

The Kacaan Spokesperson