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Re: Traditional Shiidle & Bantu Dances!

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Dee ma kani ba Saar la yidhaada ?

Looks a lot like something we had in Rabdhuure, kibowe ayaa la odhan jidhe, looks similar to it tho.



Diisow looks spiritual bro, I'm convinced these performers are high on something, definitely in no condition to be waving around a cane :lol:


Gotta give it up to jubboyinka iyo reer kismaayo when it comes to dancing, the throne is in the south when it comes to variety of dancing. :up:
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Re: Traditional Shiidle & Bantu Dances!

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[quote="Rabshoole"]Dee ma kani ba Saar la yidhaada ?



Diisow looks spiritual bro, I'm convinced these performers are high on something, definitely in no condition to be waving around a cane :lol:



Ciyaar iga dheh runtii waan ka heley...........dadkaan waaba umad highly charged ah oo kacsan...... amey cuneeen dhurwaa sikale aan ku fasiro maleh:D

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@Rabshoole - That is Saar! It's hard to come by a decent Saar video, amazing you found this one. I remember the dancers would go in to a sort of trance and take out their tooreey, start cutting themselves up. The women watching it would also go in to a trance and fall to the ground, sometimes doing bizarre things like sniffing the legs of the men dancing. Craziest thing I ever saw as a kid in Buur Hakaba, very athletic dance, mostly performed by fit, young geeljires, preferably under a Yaaq tree. They also used to carry sticks and jump really high with their sticks. Reer Waamo also have their own variation of it, it's sung & performed all over the place.

There's also Guuroow/Shirib that is very common among Southern clans like abgaal, Murusade and others.



The female version of Guuroow is known as Suroow; probably one of the most beautiful female dances in the South. Still having a hard time locating a video of it.

There was also Sharax bongo that would send women in to trance, not sure how that worked, but used to happen.



@Tuushi - Reer Marka had a distinct way of speaking, different from everyone, even their neighbors Baraawe. :lol:

Here's what a typical Reer Marka would sound like:

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The ones I'm familiar with are Guurow iyo Shirib, both are a bit gabay oo kale, if I'm not mistaken. With all these variety of traditional dances in Somalia, why on earth are Somalis profound to perform niiko in the west every time we have cultural festival weeks. :down:
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All these dances have been eradicated by Al Shabab, sadly.
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^^ You can't remove culture from peoples' hearts al shabab waxay ka qaadikaran ayaa iska yar.
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@Rabshoole - No clue why they usually opt to do niiko at school shows instead of much more beautiful & representative dances including suroow, buraanbur, dhantur etc.

My only guess is no one in their families know these dances or wants to teach them and since niiko is abundant these days, they pick it up out of laziness





A lot of these dances are dying among the diaspora youth. In part thanks to haraam police parents who've come to associate anything "traditional" as haraam, meanwhile offering no alternatives and forcing their children to develop fascination & fixation for Western music, dances and culture.

Not sure when our traditions became "jahliya/backward" So long as as there's no vice to make them haraam?
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Re: Traditional Shiidle & Bantu Dances!

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I officially nominate this thread as the most useful thread on Somalinet. I truly learned a lot from it.



Anarchist: Two things, one is what is the history of Af May May ( if you know anything about it) any information would help; And two is what do you make of SareedoXareedo's somali, be honest, do you really understand what she types?
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@AgentOfChaos - I'm not sure about the history of Maay, but I do know that it is a very complex dialect that ethno-linguists have argued actually predates Af Maxaa tiri which is the current Somali most of us speak. There's also Af Jiido which is in a league of its own and probably even much harder to understand than Maay. Maay speakers are the Digil & Mirfle, and include people in the Shabelles like the Shiidle & Tunni, Reer Gosha in the Jubbas, Digil in Afgooye and countless others like the Mirifle in Baay & Bakool. There's also Dabarre which is closer to Oromo than Somali, they most settle in Diinsoor & its surroundings. I'll have to track down some literature for you, brother. I remember once listening to a phonologist and historian on BBC that talked extensively about the differences between Maay & Maxaa tiri, their origins and similarities. Maay speakers lived in the delta valley between the two rivers for centuries, which according to him is the oldest settled region in Somalia and since they were farmers and had little interaction with outsiders, their tongue had localized vocabulary with little or no lingua-francas. Then nomad traders (your people & mine) started trekking their way in to these communities, picking up their tongue & carrying it with them to other regions, along the way tweaking it and perhaps leading to the birth of the current Maxaa tiri. That's all I can remember from what he said. Will try to find the actual BBC Somali interview.

SareedoXareedo's Xamari is probably for trolling purposes. Something is off about its grammar and phonetics. I didn't want to join the bandwagon, but I too noticed that it makes little sense. This is coming from someone who's been around enough Banaadiri and Marka folks to know the difference. :lol:

It's like the words are there, but grammar is wack.
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Anarchist: That was quite informative as always, thank you sxb.


Finally I don't have to feel bad that I don't understanding what she types, if you of all people who is as Reer Xamar as they come find it whack then there is no way in hell I would understand.
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AgentOfChaos - I found a piece about Somali Bantus on ethnomed.org.
The main language of the Somali Bantu is Af Maay, sometimes referred to as Maay Maay, which is spoken in Southern Somalia. Though some Somali Bantus speak tribal languages from Tanzania, like Kizigua, or Swahili, the majority of Somali Bantus resettled in the U.S. speak Af Maay/Maay Maay. Af Maxaa – the language referred to as “Somali” in the U.S. – is the language spoken throughout the rest of Somalia. Af Maxaa/Somali is spoken by 50-75% of the Somali Bantu. Though Af Maay/Maay Maay and Af Maxaa/Somali have some similarities in written form, they are distinct enough in their spoken form that they are mutually unintelligible. The Office of Global Health Affairs recommends that resettlement groups and professionals first use Af Maay/Maay Maay interpreters when communicating with this group. The six main Somali Bantu tribes are Magindo, Makua, Manyasa, Yao, Zalamo and Zigua. Each tribe has many clans and sub-clans. Most Somali Bantus are Muslim, although a small minority converted to Christianity in Dadaab (there is at least one Bantu church in Dadaab)
http://ethnomed.org/culture/somali-bant ... u-refugees

I found that interesting. Who knew? I think we purposefully choose to be ignorant about these people, in part because of our own prejudices against them and reinforced social stereotypes.
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Re: Traditional Shiidle & Bantu Dances!

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:shock:

Wow, I didn't even know Bantus had clans, let alone sub-clans. I appreciate all the information you have provided, thanks sxb.
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Re: Traditional Shiidle & Bantu Dances!

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AgentOfChaos wrote::shock:

Wow, I didn't even know Bantus had clans, let alone sub-clans. I appreciate all the information you have provided, thanks sxb.

:lol:
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