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Abdihaliim wrote:Ramesses III faraciisa waa la saadaaliyay, iyadoo la adegsanaayo " the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor" ee lama xaqiijin weli. Habka keliya ee lagu xaqiijin karo waa iyadoo lasameeyo SNP test "
A single-nucleotide polymorphism" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-nuc ... lymorphism



IMO he is E1b1b

The origins of Egyptian ethnicity lay in the areas south of Egypt. The ancient Egyptian language belonged to the Afrasian family (also called Afroasiatic or, formerly, Hamito-Semitic). The speakers of the earliest Afrasian languages, according to recent studies, were a set of people whose lands between 15,000 and 13,000 B.C. stretched from Nubia in the west to far northern Somalia in the east. They supported themselves by gathering wild grains. The first elements of Egyptian culture were laid down two thousand years later, between 12,000 and 10,000 B.C., when some of these Afrasian communities expanded northward into Egypt, bringing with them a language directly ancestral to ancient Egyptian. They also introduced to Egypt the idea of using wild grains as food.

A new religion came with them as well. Its central tenet explains the often localized origins of later Egyptian gods: the earliest Afrasians were, properly speaking, neither monotheistic nor polytheistic. Instead, each local community, comprising a clan or a group of related clans, had its own distinct deity and centered its religious observances on that deity.


Christopher Ehret
Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles

Meyle wrote:The meroitic language that was thought to be Nilotic is now re-considered by linguists because the phonotactics, phonetics and grammatic structure of that language is closer to Afro-Asiatic, than to Nilotic aswell as the fact that they never created a script.

Meyle wrote:Either you're just trolling or you're really unintelligent to even grasp basic facts. If you go back a page or two, you'll see that I already quoted facts that would disprove your theories because you're not in a position to come up with theories and post them as facts. You're far from a historic scholar.

The origins of Egyptian ethnicity lay in the areas south of Egypt. The ancient Egyptian language belonged to the Afrasian family (also called Afroasiatic or, formerly, Hamito-Semitic). The speakers of the earliest Afrasian languages, according to recent studies, were a set of people whose lands between 15,000 and 13,000 B.C. stretched from Nubia in the west to far northern Somalia in the east. They supported themselves by gathering wild grains. The first elements of Egyptian culture were laid down two thousand years later, between 12,000 and 10,000 B.C., when some of these Afrasian communities expanded northward into Egypt, bringing with them a language directly ancestral to ancient Egyptian. They also introduced to Egypt the idea of using wild grains as food.

A new religion came with them as well. Its central tenet explains the often localized origins of later Egyptian gods: the earliest Afrasians were, properly speaking, neither monotheistic nor polytheistic. Instead, each local community, comprising a clan or a group of related clans, had its own distinct deity and centered its religious observances on that deity.


Christopher Ehret
Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles

Lol @this proves afro asiatic was started in the south of egypt, I was saying that the entire time, you were busy saying afro asiatic was started in the horn of Africa, but glad you seen my point. Afro Asiatic started in Egypt and egypt controlled areas such as the Levant...

That quote proves that proto Afro-Asiatic groups migrated from an area south of Egypt, that streched from Nubia to northern Somalia and these same people laid the foundation for what would later become Ancient Egypt. The language, culture, religious beliefs and way of life was implemented by these proto Afro-Asiatic groups. This also proves that the urheimat was most likely in this region i.e north east Africa. The early dynastic period was established by these groups and the rulers and high priests of the old kingdom, first intermediate period and middle kingdom were direct descendants of these people hence the first voyage and exodus to Punt taking place during the old kingdom in the 5th dynasty.
Nubia didn't exist yet, KUSH use or even south egypt for more of an accurate name, also NO ONE KNOWS THE ORIGINS OF AFRO ASIATIC IT IS STILL BEING DISUPUTED. So you can't say shit like 'it was here' it is still being discussed. No one really knows, I personally think it is Egypt or the Levant because of the heavy Egyptian influence on Semitic scripts. But like I said no one really knows.

You seem to hate Nilotic groups but language is not everything for instance you have the Masalit- and Fur people in Sudan who speak a Nilo-Saharan language yet genetically they're closer to Somalis and Beja that speak an Afro-Asiatic language, than to other Nilo-Saharan speakers. There's not always a clear cut when it comes to history and language.
I don't hate Nilotics, I just hate those who false claim other civilizations. It is pathetic. You say the Fur people are closer to somalis and oromos gentically, post some stats please? They may be the nilotics who mixed with the kushites when they first invaded..
You mention meroitic script and language but if you go back a page you'll see that I already addressed that but since your incapable of doing it let me quote what I wrote.

Meyle wrote:The meroitic language that was thought to be Nilotic is now re-considered by linguists because the phonotactics, phonetics and grammatic structure of that language is closer to Afro-Asiatic, than to Nilotic aswell as the fact that they never created a script.

So why do you claim Niltoics influenced Egyptians? In what way? and How Before or after their invasion into the region?

Allright forget the bible refrences. It is a fact the Nilotics invaded the kingdom of kush and tried to create their own 'civilization' called Nubia, but unfortunately the nilotics were still on the bottom and the Kushites on the top, hence why in 'wars' there are many more nilotic fighters then the red Kushites. And why the Nilotics were taken as slaves more.The hatred is still seen today in North and South Sudan. Also everything I posted was fact, you may hate WIKI but everything i posted was true, i'm sorry if you are a nilotic and want egypt, but to be honest it's not your people, sorry. You can't fight the truth

X.Playa wrote:

DonCorleone wrote:Nilotics contributed to Egypt?? Lol!!!!!!!!! They only came into the scene when they invaded the kingdom and kush which was an Egyptian colony!! Hence why north Sudan has pyramids , lol it won't about nilotics because Egyptians hated them. Nilotics are like adaans they steal history, they call themselves 'Nubian' because of the land they conquered aka stole. Nilotics had nothing to do with Afro asiatic civilizations. This is fact!

In fact its proven the other way around , that the origin of all Egpytian religion and civilization was originated by the south and Nuba.

The name Nubia is derived from that of the Noba people, nomads who settled the area in the 4th century, with the collapse of the kingdom of Meroë.

During the New Kingdom of Egypt, Nubia (kush) was an Egyptian colony, governed by an Egyptian Viceroy of Kush. With the disintegration of the New Kingdom around 1070 BCE, Kush became an independent kingdom centered at Napata in modern central Sudan

Abdihaliim wrote:

DonCorleone wrote:

DonCorleone wrote:

Abdihaliim wrote:

DonCorleone wrote:

I'm sorry but the image is very real.
It must hard for a Nilotic to look at that image and see their ancestors as slaves when they were brainwashed to think they 'are egyptians!"




the Images are from the tomb of Horemheb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Ho ... ,_Egypt%29

Every king in this world has created enslaved us. We blacks have history slavery.

afisoone wrote:

Every king in this world has created enslaved us. We blacks have history slavery.

Meyle wrote:DonCorleone,

You keep ignoring crucial facts that disprove your whole argument. The fact that you can't grasp that the area south of Egypt literally means south of Egypt i.e Nubia and Horn of Africa (north east Africa) which is the region the proto Afro-Asiatic groups migrated from and established what would later become Ancient Egypt. The fact that they left north east Africa coincides with the theory that the urheimat of Afro-Asiatic languages most likely is north east Africa. You keep mentioning kush and how nubia didnt exist but it did under a different name that is. The region south of Egypt was called Ethiopia in ancient times. For instance you have Taharqa the king of Egypt and Kush during the 25th dynasty, mentioned by herodotus and even the bible (that you love to use as a historical refernce) as the King of Ethiopia. Herodotus even states that it was this region (area south of Egypt) that was the origin of the Egyptians and recent studies prove that aswell. Dont spam this thread, either you prove your case intellectually or you gtfo

Abdihaliim wrote:

DonCorleone wrote:

X.Playa wrote:You spoke like Zaahi Hawaas, so are you telling us that the AE evolved sepratly from all their neighbours . Thats biologically impossible. You might wanna educate yourself and listen to the lectures of Prof. Shomaraka Kieta. The AE were physically, genetically , culturally and lingustically African.