Mashallah to shia !!! long live to IRAN.. TRUE ISLAM

[DR-YALAXOOW]

its wrong to insult anyone let along aisha but only that would not make shias in to kufr or gaal.... yes its danbi to insult aisha .. but making takfiir to shias is wrong..

and same also wahaabism who glorify YAZIID a man who murdered granchildren of prophet sc. yaziid killed whole family of hussien including 1 years old child of hussien ibn ali.. so both are wrong but only that does not make you gaal..

[grandpakhalif]

shia are evil beoble... actually ALI RADICALLUCANHU he burned two extremist shiica who said ALI WAS GOD.

so yes shiicaa they deserve death.................

[DR-YALAXOOW]

shia are evil beoble... actually ALI RADICALLUCANHU he burned two extremist shiica who said ALI WAS GOD.

so yes shiicaa they deserve death.................

Thats false.. shia started when yaziid ibn mucaawiya murdared whole family of granchild of prophet mohamed sc. hussien ibn ali. shiasm started in that time people who become ungry because of UMAYYAD CLAN dynasty and their love of power and murder ot granchildren of prophet in that time.. thats how shiasm started..

its pure proboganda that Shia existed the time of cali bin abii daalib.. thought CALI bin abii dalaib fought a war against MUCAAWIYA BIN ABU SUFYAAN who wanted to become leader and keep the power in hes umayad clan family which he succeeded later..

[grandpakhalif]

Explain this Sahih Bukharee hadiith than oo Diitoore?

It is reported in Al-Fatah on the authority of 'Abdullaah ibn Sharik on that of his father who said: "It was said to 'Alee: There are people here at the door of the mosque who claim that you are their god. So he summoned them and said to them: "Woe to you! What are you saying?" They said: "You are our god, our creator and our provider." He said: "Woe to you, I am but a servant like you. I eat just like you do and I drink just like you do. If I obeyed Allaah He would reward me if He wished, and if I disobeyed Him I feared that He would punish me." So fear Allaah and repent. They still refused to repent. On the following day, they were brought to him and Qanbar came and said: "By Allaah they went back to saying the same thing." So 'Alee said: "Let them in." So they again said the same thing. On the third day 'Alee said to them: "If you were to say the same thing again I shall kill you in the worst possible way." They still refused. So 'Alee ordered for a hole to be dug for them between the entrance of the mosque and the palace; then he ordered for wood to be thrown in the hole and lit up. He then said to them: "I shall throw you in if you do not repent." They still refused, so he threw them in."

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Explain this Sahih Bukharee hadiith than oo Diitoore?

It is reported in Al-Fatah on the authority of 'Abdullaah ibn Sharik on that of his father who said: "It was said to 'Alee: There are people here at the door of the mosque who claim that you are their god. So he summoned them and said to them: "Woe to you! What are you saying?" They said: "You are our god, our creator and our provider." He said: "Woe to you, I am but a servant like you. I eat just like you do and I drink just like you do. If I obeyed Allaah He would reward me if He wished, and if I disobeyed Him I feared that He would punish me." So fear Allaah and repent. They still refused to repent. On the following day, they were brought to him and Qanbar came and said: "By Allaah they went back to saying the same thing." So 'Alee said: "Let them in." So they again said the same thing. On the third day 'Alee said to them: "If you were to say the same thing again I shall kill you in the worst possible way." They still refused. So 'Alee ordered for a hole to be dug for them between the entrance of the mosque and the palace; then he ordered for wood to be thrown in the hole and lit up. He then said to them: "I shall throw you in if you do not repent." They still refused, so he threw them in."

where in the hadiith it says those people were shias?? no where!! .

Listen Shia started the moment YAZIID massacred whole family of the prophet including children young as 1 years old for the sake of keeping power for hes clan UMAYAD..


Shia hated umayad clan dynasty.. shias believe only prophet mohamed close family should be caliphe because of umayyad clan power take over.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

dr yalaxow, who asked you about whether they are considered gaal or not. I asked you how would you react.
Furthermore how would the prophet salalaahu calayhi wasalam react today if he heard the slander of the shiicas towards his beloved wife caaisha and his beloved companions abubakr, cumar and cuthmaan.
And yet they claim to be from ahlul bayt, and yet they insult the one of the main people among that noble house caaisha.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

no one knows how prophet sc would react today because prophet mohamed sc is not here... we dont know either wather he would agree shias or wather he would say you shias your evil people , we dont know that..

but we know inroder to be musliim you should belief as i said..

shahada.
prophet mohamed.
quran. salaah.
hajj

and all those things shias do as sunnis do..

[Cumar-Labasuul]

ok I'll explain to you in bus terms maybe then you would understand.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

the reason shias do not like umar. uthmaan and abuubakar is..

shias claime after prophet sc died the person who had right to be next caliph was ali..
and umar and uthmaan who converted islam from paganism should not be caliph before cali bin abii daalib who was very close to prophet and did not converted to islam because he become muslim such very young age..

and also shia belief uthmaan who was member of umayad clan and uthmaan wanted to keep the power hands of ummayads therefore he wanted MUCAAWIYA to succeed him and not cali after uthmaan died and thats why MUCAAWIYA went war against cali bin abii daalib inroder to secure the power to hes Umayad clan which mucaawiya succeeded later..

[Cumar-Labasuul]

but we know inroder to be musliim you should belief as i said..

shahada.
prophet mohamed.
quran. salaah.
hajj

and all those things shias do as sunnis do..

so that's it to be a muslim? so you don't need to believe in other prophets or the angels or yaumal qiyaamah?

actually they have a different shahada so that it a big difference - diinta nabiga salalaahu calayhi wasalam ayay ka leexdeen (waxay shahaadada ku daraan: cali waliyullaah)

also some shiicas say that cali is also a prophet. subxaanallah
they also pray different by praying on a stone and do not finish with asalaamu calaykum waraxmatullah
hajjkana way tagaan but do different rituals

[Cumar-Labasuul]

the reason shias do not like umar. uthmaan and abuubakar is..

shias claime after prophet sc died the person who had right to be next caliph was ali..
and umar and uthmaan who converted islam from paganism should not be caliph before cali bin abii daalib who was very close to prophet and did not converted to islam because he become muslim such very young age..

and also shia belief uthmaan who was member of umayad clan and uthmaan wanted to keep the power hands of ummayads therefore he wanted MUCAAWIYA to succeed him and not cali after uthmaan died and thats why MUCAAWIYA went war against cali bin abii daalib inroder to secure the power to hes Umayad clan which mucaawiya succeeded later..

ok so do you believe all of that

[DR-YALAXOOW]

yes according even sunni scholars. mucaawiya went war against cali bin abii daalib which thousends of muslims were killed BY mucaawiya army and many others become slaves.. and uthmaan and mucaawiya come from same clan ummayad.. and according sunni scholars too mucaawiya wanted hes Son to succeed him like Dynasty.. and yaziiid ibn mucaawiya massacared whole family of hussein including women and children inroder to keep umayyad clan in to power and never again someone from bin haashim to claime the leadersship of the empire..

and yes UMAYYADS Succeeded. after yaziid hes son become caliph( leader) all of these stories are not from shias but also from sunni sources

[InoCabdi]

but calling on other,dieties than Allah is shirk. Yes or No?
isnt shirk,kufr?

[DR-YALAXOOW]

but calling on other,dieties than Allah is shirk. Yes or No?
isnt shirk,kufr?

thats wahaabi proboganda.. Shias belief singel God.. and prophet mohamed hes last prophet..

and shias has same quran as sunnis...

[Cumar-Labasuul]

yalaxow horta miyaad miir qabta, I asked you do you believe this

the reason shias do not like umar. uthmaan and abuubakar is..

shias claime after prophet sc died the person who had right to be next caliph was ali..
and umar and uthmaan who converted islam from paganism should not be caliph before cali bin abii daalib who was very close to prophet and did not converted to islam because he become muslim such very young age.

you keep changing the topic to mucaawiya and yaziid.

either answer this or iska aamus