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Zizzz wrote: Let's split this shitty country up for gods sake. Each day that passes I lose hope wallahi.

100% agree

Guul13 wrote:

FMK wrote:Dont blame Puntland,
Blame Farole

For what? Holding the cartel in Mogadishu accountable for changing the constitution? For insisting the federal government stops trying to hijack a legitimate administration in Jubbaland? Or for advancing Puntland?

That sorry excuse for a President who is babysat by AMISOM troops doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as Farole.

Guul13 wrote:Holding the President accountable is called responsible politics, not "tantrums". But, then again, this is a triangle inhabitant i'm speaking to.

So what

Puntland been silent for good 8 months. Time to play hard ball with the federal government . Let Culosoow sit in front of of the international community and rep Moqdisho.

hahahaha who are you kidding? puntland was never supposed to be included in the london conference in the first place

ugaaskaHG wrote:hahahaha who are you kidding? puntland was never supposed to be included in the london conference in the first place

Are you mad? Puntland delegation were there last year

Lets for a minute put the clan charged rhetoric aside and look this at another angle.
It seems to me whosever task it was to educate Somalis masses in general and the regional administrations in particular about the notions of federalism and what it entails have failed terribly. How else can you explain the fact that regional governments now think that being part of a federal state is akin to being a country of your own? Now, they want their own president with, at least, equal power, if not more, as the president of Somalia, along with their own foreign minster, and their own ambassadors and military attaches all over the world. Now, this is beyond fuc###ing ridiculous.

BlackRain wrote:

ugaaskaHG wrote:hahahaha who are you kidding? puntland was never supposed to be included in the london conference in the first place

Are you mad? Puntland delegation were there last year

that was when your puppet (sh.shariif) was president knowing how noisy faroole is; he chose to tag along with silaanyo and sheikh dalxis without invitation from David Cameron.

original dervish wrote:Aisha.....you say the nicest things

I knw

barbarossa wrote:Lets for a minute put the clan charged rhetoric aside and look this at another angle.
It seems to me whosever task it was to educate Somalis masses in general and the regional administrations in particular about the notions of federalism and what it entails have failed terribly. How else can you explain the fact that regional governments now think that being part of a federal state is akin to being a country of your own? Now, they want their own president with, at least, equal power, if not more, as the president of Somalia, along with their own foreign minster, and their own ambassadors and military attaches all over the world. Now, this is beyond fuc###ing ridiculous.

The only insightful post here.

I can understand their position though. I mean if Mogadhisho has little control of those said autonomous regions how can they represent them on a global arena? I'm not advocating for 5 or 6 different ambassadors under the Somali name but it just seems like Mogadhisho and Garowe's relationship is that of a couple that came together due to initial infatuation but realised down the line the spark has gone and not too sure what they want from each other anymore. Something has got to give.

InSomalia wrote:
The only insightful post here.

I can understand their position though. I mean if Mogadhisho has little control of those said autonomous regions how can they represent them on a global arena? I'm not advocating for 5 or 6 different ambassadors under the Somali name but it just seems like Mogadhisho and Garowe's relationship is that of a couple that came together due to initial infatuation but realised down the line the spark has gone and not too sure what they want from each other anymore. Something has got to give.

More like a couple that was forced into an unholy marriage by colonial masters. A divorce is needed, urgently.

^ Nobody forced Farole to sign the Garowe accord or whatever the heck it was called.

InSomalia wrote:

barbarossa wrote:Lets for a minute put the clan charged rhetoric aside and look this at another angle.
It seems to me whosever task it was to educate Somalis masses in general and the regional administrations in particular about the notions of federalism and what it entails have failed terribly. How else can you explain the fact that regional governments now think that being part of a federal state is akin to being a country of your own? Now, they want their own president with, at least, equal power, if not more, as the president of Somalia, along with their own foreign minster, and their own ambassadors and military attaches all over the world. Now, this is beyond fuc###ing ridiculous.

The only insightful post here.

I can understand their position though. I mean if Mogadhisho has little control of those said autonomous regions how can they represent them on a global arena? I'm not advocating for 5 or 6 different ambassadors under the Somali name but it just seems like Mogadhisho and Garowe's relationship is that of a couple that came together due to initial infatuation but realised down the line the spark has gone and not too sure what they want from each other anymore. Something has got to give.

The issue of mistrust amongst Somalis plays a major part here I think. Due to our intricate and often contentious clan system, we, Somalis, have historically struggled mightily with the concept of mutual-trust, but there seemed for a while, at least, just about enough of it to run the country as a functioning state up until the collapse of Siyad Barre's regime in the early 90's. After the terrible, bloody civil war, that perennial mistrust was taken to a whole new plateau to the point that mstrust is now , for all intent and purposes, ingrained into our psyche and it will take, god knows how long, for it ever to be re-established to any appreciable degree.

^ spot on