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Re: I feel like writing Shabab a long, detailed, public lett

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Basra- wrote:misterioso

So are u telling me that when Al shabaab commit suicide bombers-- they do it out of other causes other than Allaah swt/Islam religion? Do not YOU think that AL SHABAAB are religious warriors? Or do u think they are merely a black panther type? Renegade rebels? :?
What Al shabaab commit, they do out of tactic, strategy and the limitations of their strength. If they were to possess drones or warplanes, they would employ it instead of their current tactics and strategies. They have in the past engaged in conventional wars, but because they're outmatched and outgunned, they've adapted and began to engage in assymetrical warfare. If a technologically advanced alien race were to invade your country, you can be sure that your fellow Americans would engage in Al shabaab's tactics and strategies in order to compensate.

Sure, Al shabaab are religious warriors, but they do not claim to represent or speak for Allah. They claim to be Allah's servants and fulfill His commands and orders.
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misterioso wrote:[
Sure, Al shabaab are religious warriors, but they do not claim to represent or speak for Allah. They claim to be Allah's servants and fulfill His commands and orders.

:o misterioso---- I think being a servant of Alaah swt and serving his commands is the same as speaking for Alaaah swt. But since semantics really matters to u-- I will compromise and say-- fine--Al shabaab are servants of Alaaah but still my arguments holds: Al shabaab are misguided and only think of one world view, and that is the delusions that they are 'serving' Alaah swt and not their humanistc needs. If u ask me-- al shabaab are serving their own selfish needs. Alaaah swt is mistakenly and abusively used here. :mindblown:
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Basra- wrote:misterioso---- I think being a servant of Alaah swt and serving his commands is the same as speaking for Alaaah swt.
No, it isn't the same. There's shirk in the concept of speaking for Allah.
If u ask me-- al shabaab are serving their own selfish needs.
Explain "selfish needs." Cite 3-5 examples.
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misterioso

Can we end the discussions after my response? Its pointless. U r a terrorist sympathizer and I am a peace loving worlds citizen.

3 examples why are al shabab or muslims suciders are selfish. Selfish # 1 they fight for political power, and not Islams interest. Land, controlling borders etc etc, these are not Islam pillars, they selfish human desires. They are not out there converting people to Islam but killing people just as u put it as a 'tactic'

2. They are killing fellow muslims-to make a political fear causing 'tactic' -that is murder in the first degree. IN Quran u r told not to kill under any circumstances other than jihaad. (fighting for the right to practice Islam. As far as I am concerned no one has made anyone stop anyone from praying or practicing the Islam religion)

3. al shabaab are sympathizers of another terrorist group---Hezbollah. :dj:
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Basra- wrote:Can we end the discussions after my response?
OK, I will stop discussing with you for good. :arrow:
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Re: I feel like writing Shabab a long, detailed, public lett

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Its futile voltage.

Alshabab is intellectually handicapped , and deaf dumb and blind .
it is a result of their ideological salafi infused beliefs.

Other movements have made similar mistakes in the past even the most successfull one the Chinese communist party.
early in its existance it alienated the masses and did nor respond to famine quickly enough and it faced defeat.
because they were not intellectually handicapped they were able to stop , analyze , learn from their mistakes and make a comback.
they did the long march, moved to safer position and relaunched the war with a focus on winning hearts and minds, and keeping the people on their side at all cost.

you can see what happened next.

now alshabab bineg handicapped cannot think, they cannot react or learn, they continue to do what they were doing before,
which is a sign of madness.
this is why they will be destroyed, even by such a weak and incompetent government as this one.
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Re: I feel like writing Shabab a long, detailed, public lett

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voltage

have you heard the bay and bakool waali mahad c/kariin talking to raxaweyn elders right after the ethiopians retreat from Xudur.

"dagaalka hadooba noo macaanaaday "

every wants peace ,but the issue is more complicated tha shabaab alone.it is war of generations.
.even if abu Zubayr the one they obey most, want to talk the fedel gov to find solution he wont last till next day .

we could sit here 50 years later and discussed same thing which i hope not.
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btw
kenya is bakward country. you are making them too high.

they have managed to ruin multi billion dollar tourism industry just to get few mercenery dollars and join the atrocity against somali people.
bogged in in kismayo airport ,.they are nothing waa useless.they will run away soon. :meles:
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