What's the exact reason the SFG is against Jubaland?

[Turbulence]

The government is not opposed to Jubbaland being formed but Kenya's control over Kismaayo. Kenya has already show complete disrespect to the government in Mogadishu few times and that has to stop. What Kenya is doing illegal and threatens the sovereignty of Somalia. Kismaayo is not Garissa. Raskamboni and the Kenyan trained refugee militias are not really significant in the eyes of the government.

[Anarchist]

Not sure what Hassan Sheikh as an individual has to do with the government's stance on the Jubbaland issue, keeping in mind that here's a man that has never taken part in the civil war, there's no evidence of him advocating for any hostilities against Daarood, by all accounts has remained a civilian through out the civil war & has a solid reputation within the academia community. He's the president of Somalia, how can he or the SFG sit on their hands and allow a foreign entity to carve out part of Somalia, and do it so under the most rudest of ways? Why can't people see that Kenya is the problem here and that nothing good could ever come out of any administration created in Nairobi? Where's our dignity? To the average Kenyan, Somalia is a shithole and we are all the same to them. What will supporting Madoobe at the cost of our dignity achieve? These men are only interested in their own self-preservation. Is it that hard to see? Maxeey dadkooda u haayaan? Maxeey u qabteen? It was always about the interests of a few, by stoking clan rhetoric, they've managed to bring down Somalia and continue to do so. For the last 20+ years, it's been the same pathetic drama.

[original dervish]

Somalia lost its dignity a long time ago.
The Xamar Govt is guided by one Abdulqasim.
He has a long and bloody record in J/Land, inflicting misery and oppression on the locals.

Today the people are determined never again to be ruled by moryaans.

[Zizzz]

^^Give us your evidence or stop insulting our intelligence. What does a former hotel president got to do with the SFG?

[sahal80]

Somalia lost its dignity a long time ago.
The Xamar Govt is guided by one Abdulqasim.
He has a long and bloody record in J/Land, inflicting misery and oppression on the locals.

Today the people are determined never again to be ruled by moryaans.

Abdi qasim was just an advisor who visits the president from egypt but they got splitted, he went back to his cairo. Hassan has changed few weeks ago most of his staff too. I feel the money has changed hassan sheekh.

[original dervish]

The money.......are you saying he has been pocketing Govt income?
I told you from day one this isn`t the man to deliver Somalia.
He serves his financiers and nobody else.

[Guul13]

Abdi qasim was just an advisor who visits the president from egypt but they got splitted, he went back to his cairo. Hassan has changed few weeks ago most of his staff too. I feel the money has changed hassan sheekh.

I knew it, about Abdiqassim whispering in his ear and illicit money lining Culusow's pockets. Dambi Jadiid is a neoliberal puppet entity, he wants the whole country in his grip so that he can sell it all. He's already handed out government land in Mogadishu to his zionist masters (look up Michael Stock).

No wonder he's against Jubaland and other strong federal states, they're making his selling-out duties difficult.

[sahal80]

Abdi qasim was just an advisor who visits the president from egypt but they got splitted, he went back to his cairo. Hassan has changed few weeks ago most of his staff too. I feel the money has changed hassan sheekh.

I knew it, about Abdiqassim whispering in his ear and illicit money lining Culusow's pockets. Dambi Jadiid is a neoliberal puppet entity, he wants the whole country in his grip so that he can sell it all. He's already handed out government land in Mogadishu to his zionist masters (look up Michael Stock).

No wonder he's against Jubaland and other strong federal states, they're making his selling-out duties difficult.

Not that way and not about his own pockets, its about the state pockets.
Abdiqasims fikir is not inclusive and for this matter you need to be all inclusive.
Also hassan sheekh wants to make some change in the isntitutions like he fired the head of the secret intelligence ahmed macalin fiqi who is not allowed now to enter the country after he said bad things about madaxda.

[Guul13]

Not that way and not about his own pockets, its about the state pockets.
Abdiqasims fikir is not inclusive and for this matter you need to be all inclusive.
Also hassan sheekh wants to make some change in the isntitutions like he fired the head of the secret intelligence ahmed macalin fiqi who is not allowed now to enter the country after he said bad things about madaxda.

Culusow is exiling people from their country because they disagree with his policies? This proves that those MP's were threatened to withdraw their vote, and not bribed like reports allege.

[Talo alle udaa]

Not sure what Hassan Sheikh as an individual has to do with the government's stance on the Jubbaland issue, keeping in mind that here's a man that has never taken part in the civil war, there's no evidence of him advocating for any hostilities against Daarood, by all accounts has remained a civilian through out the civil war & has a solid reputation within the academia community. He's the president of Somalia, how can he or the SFG sit on their hands and allow a foreign entity to carve out part of Somalia, and do it so under the most rudest of ways? Why can't people see that Kenya is the problem here and that nothing good could ever come out of any administration created in Nairobi? Where's our dignity? To the average Kenyan, Somalia is a shithole and we are all the same to them. What will supporting Madoobe at the cost of our dignity achieve? These men are only interested in their own self-preservation. Is it that hard to see? Maxeey dadkooda u haayaan? Maxeey u qabteen? It was always about the interests of a few, by stoking clan rhetoric, they've managed to bring down Somalia and continue to do so. For the last 20+ years, it's been the same pathetic drama.

This so-called president has single handled turn entire communities against himself. He had many chances to take the political lead and oversea the meetings. He could have easily accepted the frame work of the gathering and then corrected what "communities" he felt were being sidelined.

But from day one he said it's my or the high way. He told men who were working on this agenda of Jubalaand for close to 3 years that they should scrap everything.

And now he just named a Somali Bantu to lead the "XDS" in J/Hoose. This moron doesn't know the somalis are made of tribes. The so called army is a collection of tribes, he doesn't pay for their salaries, doesn't for the wounded. Yet he want's to impose himself on war weary community by naming "Generals" to lead an "army" he has no control over.

[Nomand]

i think culusow is a tyrant and wants to rule with an iron fist, even prof samatar said so.

regarding jubbaland the people have chosen their leaders and culusow must respect this, he was chosen by corrupt 4.5 system based on qabil, plus bribed the MPs.

president hiiraale was chosen by moe then 600 elders from all the clans in jubbaland.

[sahal80]

Not that way and not about his own pockets, its about the state pockets.
Abdiqasims fikir is not inclusive and for this matter you need to be all inclusive.
Also hassan sheekh wants to make some change in the isntitutions like he fired the head of the secret intelligence ahmed macalin fiqi who is not allowed now to enter the country after he said bad things about madaxda.

Culusow is exiling people from their country because they disagree with his policies? This proves that those MP's were threatened to withdraw their vote, and not bribed like reports allege.

He is a bad person with no protocol. People like these are ruling us!. No. He wasn't exelled, he said that in abroad after he lost his job but I was wrong he entered but is not allowed to go abroad. This is ok bc he could give away national secrets.
He said" madaxawanaha waa magac uyaal, speakerka waa magac uyaal, kan ciidanka... waxee ogyihiin maleh isla sharif camal ee ku dhamaandoonaan!!! What a loser!
Anyways let us not change the topic.

[Advo]

I support the federal government 100% over the constant calaacal and clan flames being fueled, we must put an end to folks who desire to further split the nation or take orders from non-somalis.

[SomeGuy]

folks,

Jubaland was sold to the highest bider, Kenya, so as Somaliland to Ethiopia. Thus, Somalia, as we know it,is done. Let's put it to rest. Shall we?. We all know Kenya and Ethiopia are just doing lip service in the name of IGAD communique. Their actions are NOT supporting their IGAD communique. They are doing their dirty jobs under the hoods.

BWY i do support JUbaland State and I believe Jubalanders should join to Kenya in the long run. After all, they are really severed under Somalia, This region was going backward more 45 years. Siad Barre oppressed more than 21 years and civil war hit it so hard--like no other region in Somalia. It is time to go different route because this government is not helping.


Hassan culusow is just wasting his time escalating the issue by accusing Kenyan troops in Jubaland. Kenya would say their troops are doing right thing when they are NOT . And this political newbie president is creating his own enemies. Not to mentions Ethiopia is doing same thing--denying publicly and doing otherwise.

Does Culusow think Ethiopian and Kenyan troops died for no reason?, in vain?, Helping Somalia? Sadaqo?. He gotta be kidding!!

No country soldiers die and bleed in the name of charities and humanities. Country troops die the interest of their country, That is political 101.


SomeGuy

[GeoSeven]

I support the federal government 100% over the constant calaacal and clan flames being fueled, we must put an end to folks who desire to further split the nation or take orders from non-somalis.

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