HAG strategy

[Khalid Ali]

If wishes were weapons the right wing Qaldanist would destroy Daarood. unfortunately 100 years of hate toward Daarood ended up punching the keyboard.

Daarood was already destroyed they are scattered all over the horn as refugees

They have been completely sidelined in all of Somali politics

[Kafkaesque]

Titanium. Only on SNET can a mooryaan profess such ludicrous claims as federalism benefiting the unruly.

The status of the capital is provisional, as in the constitution. Xamar is not the capital, read it. Also, whining about not getting funds, another sign of mooryaanism and the reason why no one should mix with the likes of you. You can't even share what you are meant to, with that kind of behaviour, you shall be undermined at every step, just like Xasan Sheikh is now. Also if you read the constitution, anything that affects federal member states has to be in agreement with the state, everything.

This is one of the reasons why your lord Xasan Sheikh seems to be failing at consolidating power, and how pathetic can a person get when with this kind of international support and readily available funds, can't even secure or consolidate enough power to deal with a few militias in Kismayo and elsewhere. But then again, we are speaking of people who are protected by Ugandan troops yet try and espouse nationalism!

The man has more funds, and support than any other predecessor yet he can't consolidate powers against a few people, it's pathetic, even the qaldaan cheerleaders will tell you like khalid ali if they weren't twerking in these threads to create fitnah.

[Khalid Ali]

HUTUKING,

"Federalism" (which is really autonomy) benefits Hawiye more than Darod. Do you think a penny of those hundreds of millions that has been donated to Somalia will reach their areas? They want nothing to do with Xamar. This is a blessing. What Puntland and the others want are to handle their own affairs but they can only manage things at the micro-level or local level. Things like health or education and their own security and infrastructure. They have lots of jurisdiction but not jurisdiction that matters. And there is some difficulty in providing health and education when Somalia has for-profit doctors and teachers who get their income from their sick patients and the parents of children. They can pretty much just implement state wide educational standards or health standards. That's it.

They have no say in monetary policy, foreign affairs, international trade, criminal law. Federalism doesn't mean national power. Federal states have no say in national politics. 100 federal states isn't more powerful than the national government. They have different responsibilities. Why would Xamar want to bother themselves in providing them health, education, security and other things? Why does Xamar want to build them roads and bridges? Let them do it with the money they get from their ports. Centralism is bad. Centralism is not in your interest. Whatever money we get from international community is going straight to Xamar. Even a Puntlander or a Jubbalander will admit that they will not see a penny of it.

How many meetings do these people have in the diaspora to gather money to build a 5KM road in their towns? Muqdisho does not need diaspora cash for infrastructure. Roads are built by international aid. Like the Turks or the EU

I promise you in 5 years, they will be whining why Xamar is not sharing the international aid money. They will realize "federalism" isn't as great as it was supposed to be. Inshallah federalism stays on forever

Spot on federal aid will only reach the National treasures of the Somali government. Problem is these anti SFG they want autonomous states they want to have countries with in countries. President hassan said he wants federalism but first the SFG must full control the Somali country Sovereignty wise and than we will built state with the blessings of the locals. They rejected and sided with kenyans. They dont want federalism they want a country with in a country where they have their own armies own police and play equals to the SFG. similar what Majeertenia does. But SFG should just ignore faroole altogether, since he breached the constitution the federal govt is in charge of foreign affairs defense foreign trade monetary policy. They want to reject the SFG but still enjoy the wealth they want.Hawiye should just use all those aid they get to built Mogadishu and their territories, and try to built an entity from galkacyo to the Kenyan border and flush out the kenyan proxies. Let faroole and co cry in their dessert they dont enjoy legitimacy nothing but are confined in their barren dessert with no resources nothing.

[zidane88]

In your dreams, Khalid. I hope Abdi iley will read what you are writing.

[Khalid Ali]

In your dreams, Khalid. I hope Abdi iley will read what you are writing.

Abdi ileey massacres his tribe more than any one else he is Xabashi prostitute

[zidane88]

In your dreams, Khalid. I hope Abdi iley will read what you are writing.

Abdi ileey massacres his tribe more than any one else he is Xabashi prostitute

That Xabashi Prostitute has been massacring your people in hawd ( I am not supporting violence),and You haven't raised a finger to protect them, and now claiming the destruction of an entire Daarood clan. Misplaced priority.

[Titanium]

KAF,

Are you out of your mind? Muqdisho is the capital and will always be the capital. You will fail just like Abdullahi Yusuf AUN failed in trying to move the capital to Baydhabo. You are having a wet dream if you think the capital is being re-located. You are suffering from mental problems if you seriously think Xamar is going to lose its capital status

This is Africa buddy. We are not white Europeans. We don't follow laws or constitution. Capitals in Africa have the power. Nothing will be discussed. Protocols will not be followed. Even you know that. This is Africa, we are not Europe. Have you seen how Africa operates?

You are not getting a penny of international aid given to Xamar and it pains you waryaa. You will be in Minneapolis at diaspora meetings collecting money to build a road in Garowe.

We don't care about your education, your health, your roads, your schools. Do it yourselves with your port money and diaspora cash

KHALID,

Where will they get the money to fund their country within a country? The international community is only dealing with Xamar now. They need diaspora to build 5KM roads. Where will they get the funding to build their state? It looks good on paper but it won't materialize. It's impossible.

[zidane88]

looting an international aid money, Something to cheer of. eh.

[Titanium]

Looting? It's given to us by intl' community. And we thank them. Good luck on building your states. Hoyoos screaming "federalism". I say: Gladly

[Khalid Ali]

In your dreams, Khalid. I hope Abdi iley will read what you are writing.

Abdi ileey massacres his tribe more than any one else he is Xabashi prostitute

That Xabashi Prostitute has been massacring your people in hawd ( I am not supporting violence),and You haven't raised a finger to protect them, and now claiming the destruction of an entire Daarood clan. Misplaced priority.

The 2 attacks in xarshin and gaashaamo the past 20 years and the isaaqs fought hard back

What about qoriyaalay massacre
What about Fiiq massacre
What about the Goday Massacre
What about qabridhahar massacre
What about the dhagaxbuur massacre


Trust me Ileey has done more destruction to his own tribe than isaaq, i can tell you that because i have seen reports read the killings he carried out and there are so many ogaden refugees in Kenya because of the Killings he carried out

[grandpakhalif]

the time for somalis to go through mogadishu is over 14/16 councillers of the neighborhoods of xamar are all HAG, 90% of civil workers are HAG and only a few token ministerial positions are given to other clans. their elders occupy the homes of dead somalis. culusow is empowering certain tribes while seeking to alienate others, how come culusow didn't even visit gedo?


jubbaland is our new home

[Kafkaesque]

KAF,

Are you out of your mind? Muqdisho is the capital and will always be the capital. You will fail just like Abdullahi Yusuf AUN failed in trying to move the capital to Baydhabo. You are having a wet dream if you think the capital is being re-located. You are suffering from mental problems if you seriously think Xamar is going to lose its capital status

This is Africa buddy. We are not white Europeans. We don't follow laws or constitution. Capitals in Africa have the power. Nothing will be discussed. Protocols will not be followed. Even you know that. This is Africa, we are not Europe. Have you seen how Africa operates?

You are not getting a penny of international aid given to Xamar and it pains you waryaa. You will be in Minneapolis at diaspora meetings collecting money to build a road in Garowe.

We don't care about your education, your health, your roads, your schools. Do it yourselves with your port money and diaspora cash

Looting aid, it's a step up from the food rations you looted from the starving in '91-93 which caused a famine.

See, normally a person would be surprised by the savagery to be committed in most likelihood by your kind, evident on the mentality shown here, but I am familiar with your likes so I will do what I do best at you.

AY never tried to move the holy capital of mooryaanimo, it would be foolhearted to even try, that's why he came to Mogadishu with Ethiopians and tried to educate you in civility, he civilised you, you are what you are today cause of him, and man do I despise him for it. If what you are telling us of staying in Puntland was in his agenda, you would have seen a neighbouring country by now, cause God knows some wouldn't fail to get recognition like the useless idoors.

Zidane

Hala yaabin, a mooryaan is a mooryaan, there's nothing they can say which can surprise you, 22 years of civil war and they want to keep going like the savages they are. Also, Iley is a hero, the qaldaans used to claim 7 regions in the Ogaden, but now they are reduced to 3 and even in those they are feeling the pressure.

[grandpakhalif]

this titanium guy is bragging for hoarding aid at the behest of other somalis, mooryanimo 101 at its worst

[Khalid Ali]

Daarood cannot demand from Hawiye to give them seats in Mogadishu while the port revenues of Bosaaaso are not shared when the regional districts of Puntland has no hawiyes councilors or mayors.

Actually the government is pretty much shared fairly 4.5
But Mogadishu admin and Mogadishu local affairs will always be in the hands of the indigenous people of banadir region

[zidane88]

Khalid, I was reminding you (in case you forget) that He is one of Daarood son's, a people you will lose your right arm, just to destroy them. Wish you an independent Somali-land. We (Daarood) have no hard feeling as you have on us. Good luck with your hate.