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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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Lamgoodle wrote:
Talo alle udaa wrote:I suggest people do go to the psychiatrist/psychologist to maybe help find an underlying emotional/mental crisis the person may not be conciously aware off but is the cause of their depression. I would however, think twice about rushing to take psycho-active drugs.

Many of the psycho active drugs have debilitating side effects. Plus you ran the risk of needing them permanently. They alter concentration levels of various neurotransmitters in your brain leading to potential serious side effects.

I would also suggest to trying to exercise more, spend more time outdoors, keeping yourself busy with useful things, and plus see if their is something trouble you.

I am aware that Olive Oil was trying to find a partner, i don't know whether the sister was successful or not.
In the scientific literature, preventive measures could be taken but a general cure is not in sight because "mental disorders" that induce suicide are too many and too complex. It is difficult to understand the biology of mental disorders. Suicide inducing mechanisms are just too many.
Agreed sxb, these qualitative disorders do not have an organic cause. Treatments attempt to alleviate symptoms. Sometimes it's possible a person having "developed" an illness can end up needing a medication for life.

I remember in one of our classes they brought a guest speaker. He said one day he was at home and his starting having palpitations, tacchycardia, as if he was having a heart attack. When they put him on the monitors in the emergency, the didn't see anything on the ECG. He was told he had a panic attack and it took him a while as a man to come to terms with such a disorder. There is a familial link, and he found out his little cousin also suffered from panic attacks.

Ever since then, he's been on Alprazolam and takes with him to all places.
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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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BlackVelvet wrote:LamaG I am in agreement that the same way Quran will not mend your bones if you break them it will not heal mental disorders. AUN to your relative such things happen too often these days.

I would not take someone who's feeling down to the Ka'ba simply because religion reminds us of the temporary state of this world which is counter-productive if you're trying to get them to "snap out of it". That said seeking professional help shouldn't be such a taboo or so scary that it is still not considered even when the person becomes an obvious risk to themselves.
He lived in Saudi Arabia for many years before he was taken to somalia to be treated. Many thought that he will be better there.

In Saudi arabia he went to Hajj many times. When he came to somalia for treatment, he was twice taken to Mecca.

What I still can't understand is why him? He was the last person you'd expect to be mentally ill.

There is a somali saying "nin buko boqol u talisey"( a sick patient has hundreds of advicers), so, quraan ayaa lagu aqriyey, mingis, and other kinds of superstitious activities were performed. He was suppose to come to Italy on a patient visa but he did not make it.

Tallo, in the west, there are several medicines that could help.
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how many different ways is der to do sucide which 1 is da easiest i live in a city where 4 somali girls did sucide but 1 survivor she threw herself on da road but da car was goin slow so she jus broke a leg :o
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That is really sad.

Isn't it strange that on one hand Quran in qof lagu aqriyo and on the other mingis stuff. I guess it is just shows the need for education.
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BlackVelvet wrote:That is really sad.

Isn't it strange that on one hand Quran in qof lagu aqriyo and on the other mingis stuff. I guess it is just shows the need for education.
da :shock: thing was 3 of them were religious , n modest girls i still see der faces i wish i was able to help them even jus a lil bit but life goes on rite
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SecretAgent wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:That is really sad.

Isn't it strange that on one hand Quran in qof lagu aqriyo and on the other mingis stuff. I guess it is just shows the need for education.
da :shock: thing was 3 of them were religious , n modest girls i still see der faces i wish i was able to help them even jus a lil bit but life goes on rite
Yah? :lol:
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BlackVelvet wrote:
SecretAgent wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:That is really sad.

Isn't it strange that on one hand Quran in qof lagu aqriyo and on the other mingis stuff. I guess it is just shows the need for education.
da :shock: thing was 3 of them were religious , n modest girls i still see der faces i wish i was able to help them even jus a lil bit but life goes on rite
Yah? :lol:
:( 1 of them was ur sub sub sub clan cousin :|
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Okay...I think I understand what you mean so on behalf of my sub sub sub clan I thank you for your generosity :|
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OliveOil wrote:I was listening to NPR about three months ago when they were talking about something. I didn't really listen to it because I wanted to listen to music instead, but I remember one thing that they said which stuck in my mind..."when someone wants to commit a suicide, they don't say stuff like 'I'm going to kill myself, I wish I was dead, I wish I hadn't been born'" Instead, they withdrawing from social contact and want to be left alone. They say things like "My heart is aching so bad, I want it to stop. Life is hard. How does one become happy. Etc etc."


And I'M EXACTLY LIKE THAT :(
:ohhh: :holdup: You can't be serious. Shaytaanka iska naar oo alle ka cabso, and everything will be hakuna matata.
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Anarchist wrote:I always find it interesting how Soomaalida are the first ones to run to the emergency room when they have a simple cold/flu, stomach aches, back pain, etc looking for treatment. But, for some strange reason choose to convince themselves & force on to others that the brain can not get ill. If a person can get treatment for insulin resistance/diabetes, why can't another person get treatment for depression? Both obviously have links to hormonal imbalances in the human body. Does a person suffering from asthma run to the Qur'an each time they have an asthma attack or reach for their inhalers? Does a diabetic about to go in to shock run off to the prayer mat or inject themselves with insulin?

The same way people don't choose to be diabetic or suffer from any other disease, nobody chooses to suffer from depression. Not sure what "snap out of it" or "go read Qur'an" has to do with anything. My only advice is to seek professional help. Don't make the mistake of self-diagnosis, and certainly don't make the mistake of taking advice from anyone on here. You may not even have depression, human emotions are fluid and are constantly changing depending on our personal situations. But, only a professional has the expertise to help you, not people who are clueless about human anatomy & physiology.
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There has to be something that is causing u this great unhappiness, and it's most likely unwanted pressure from family, they don't understand ur wishes and want to dictate ur life as they believe in the old Somali mentality or things didn't turn out they way u planned and its causing to be down.

PM me if u want to talk about it :up:
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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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Ukhti dont commit suicide.
Ur familymembers in Beledxaawo are counting on you to send them monthly money.
Dont dissapoint qaraabo.

Also didnt i warn you not to go extreme. U need balance in ur life.
Look at me, sometimes i can talk/think as salafi, but then i become partybeast. Always being talafi can ruin ur life.
A balance is good.
Go to aroos or go to somali party. Let it go.
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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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OliveOil wrote:I was listening to NPR about three months ago when they were talking about something. I didn't really listen to it because I wanted to listen to music instead, but I remember one thing that they said which stuck in my mind..."when someone wants to commit a suicide, they don't say stuff like 'I'm going to kill myself, I wish I was dead, I wish I hadn't been born'" Instead, they withdrawing from social contact and want to be left alone. They say things like "My heart is aching so bad, I want it to stop. Life is hard. How does one become happy. Etc etc."


And I'M EXACTLY LIKE THAT :(
dont listen to their crap, there is usually underlying problem thats causing a person to be in a suicidal state, whether its family drama, financial difficulty, relationship, drugs/alcohol, or complete qacnimo e.t.c. :dj:
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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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Sis didn't you start practising? Insha'Allah get closer to Allah and these thoughts will be gone, whenever I'm depressed it helps me get closer to Allah that sometimes I purposely try to depress myself. I remember when I was 13/14 I was really suicidal thought about killing myself a few times that I even used to make dua to die, but I was a kid and didn't have any knowledge about the deen or life, but you have no excuse you are a grown woman. Shaydanka iska naar and stay up in qiyaam al layl I promise you these thoughts will be gone.
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Re: Signs of suicidal thoughts

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Olive, hardship is temporary, never permanent; not long ago I was feeling like you're. I got through most of it, I have my days still. If my story will help you we can talk. Put Allah swt first and put your trust in him.
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