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Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:35 pm
by grandpakhalif
^^
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:39 pm
by mcali
Ehh you got a point but there
But truth be told us northerner know that god and just wants to be a leader and screw up the south.
He didnt have much going for him back home.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:08 pm
by saacJabshee
LeJusticier wrote:saacJabshee wrote:Lejusticier this is what sectarian salafi extremist al arifi had to say about grave worship. I completely agree with him on this issue.
You misunderstood my principle.
Only Jahil does grave worship.
However what are worste Salafis who're grave diggers who do not respect dead bodies including Ashaba and ahlu bayt + indiscriminately kill muslims through suicide bombers.
i put my hand i thought you was for grave worship. I acknowledge my mistake sorry.
What gets me is this. Why do they take out the body in the grave? so destroying the shrine makes sense because it attracts the worshippers. but to take a sahabi body from the grave site, is that really appropriate?
i also agree with you on the killings of innocent muslims. but what can you do about that. they'll read you one ayah and translate it. if you dont agree your a legitimate target. i have never seen these extremist enagage in a debate with other scholars looool wallahi.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:11 pm
by grandpakhalif
they dont take out the body they just level any monument build over it, like the original grave.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:12 pm
by LeJusticier
mcali wrote:Ehh you got a point but there
But truth be told us northerner know that god and just wants to be a leader and screw up the south.
He didnt have much going for him back home.
As far as I am concern Ahmed Godane its wellknown Godan's indifference towards Isaaq, Darood, mushunguli or Cawramal. Godane led Salafi-Jihadist Insurgencies.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:17 pm
by LeJusticier
saacJabshee wrote:LeJusticier wrote:saacJabshee wrote:Lejusticier this is what sectarian salafi extremist al arifi had to say about grave worship. I completely agree with him on this issue.
You misunderstood my principle.
Only Jahil does grave worship.
However what are worste Salafis who're grave diggers who do not respect dead bodies including Ashaba and ahlu bayt + indiscriminately kill muslims through suicide bombers.
i put my hand i thought you was for grave worship. I acknowledge my mistake sorry.
What gets me is this. Why do they take out the body in the grave? so destroying the shrine makes sense because it attracts the worshippers. but to take a sahabi body from the grave site, is that really appropriate?
i also agree with you on the killings of innocent muslims. but what can you do about that. they'll read you one ayah and translate it. if you dont agree your a legitimate target. i have never seen these extremist enagage in a debate with other scholars looool wallahi.
Yep, they think they are in position of being designated by God, they decide who lives and who dies.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:18 pm
by saacJabshee
grandpakhalif wrote:they dont take out the body they just level any monument build over it, like the original grave.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/05/0 ... holy-site/
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:23 pm
by grandpakhalif
And am I suppose to believe rafidhi Iranian press TV?

Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:29 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Waxba ma nagaqaadi doonan, they get their weaponary from the backbone enemy of islam (western powers) and they use it to destroy respected monuments which were held for centuries even during the golden age of ulema's, it's respect and not grave worship. Rightwing these guys who are trying to re-new the deen with their 19th century prophet are no different to musaylama ibnu xabiib and tulayxa ibn khuwaylid who influenced people and made new changes to the deen, they are indeed the khawaraj of our time and as with every khawaraj they will go in the garbage bin when this corrupt world-system collapses in which they grew out of. primary salafi-cult states only thrive because of the nature of western civilzation, that in itself is a sign of their khawarjnimo.
To the rebel-sympathizers, don't use russia and china as a reply, I think it takes an idiot to actually think the kufr in russia and in the western zionist nations are the same, it is russia that the muslims will make a alliance with to fight dajjal, and it is the zionists who work to prepare dajjals arrival in this retarded but awesome dunya.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:33 pm
by ZubeirAwal
I personally believe there's a big conspiracy behind the exhumation of the companions of the prophet , in libya and now syria. The goons at work, the rebels, get the orders from saudi, qatari, masri i.e salafi-western subservient nations, who get their orders from the zionists, who probably want these bodies exhumed.
Grandpa still supports these devils even when they dig out indiscriminately the bodies of those who were with khayrul-khalqillah.
Inshallah they won't go near the body of his granddaughter.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:35 pm
by saacJabshee
grandpakhalif wrote:And am I suppose to believe rafidhi Iranian press TV?

there you go. this is the gulf news. the gulf supports fsa so i dont think they would lie about something like this. If this is not enough then you are delibrately throwing sand in your eyes.
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/syria/s ... -1.1178665
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:41 pm
by saacJabshee
AbuukarSubeer wrote:Waxba ma nagaqaadi doonan, they get their weaponary from the backbone enemy of islam (western powers) and they use it to destroy respected monuments which were held for centuries even during the golden age of ulema's, it's respect and not grave worship. Rightwing these guys who are trying to re-new the deen with their 19th century prophet are no different to musaylama ibnu xabiib and tulayxa ibn khuwaylid who influenced people and made new changes to the deen, they are indeed the khawaraj of our time and as with every khawaraj they will go in the garbage bin when this corrupt world-system collapses in which they grew out of. primary salafi-cult states only thrive because of the nature of western civilzation, that in itself is a sign of their khawarjnimo.
To the rebel-sympathizers, don't use russia and china as a reply, I think it takes an idiot to actually think the kufr in russia and in the western zionist nations are the same, it is russia that the muslims will make a alliance with to fight dajjal, and it is the zionists who work to prepare dajjals arrival in this retarded but awesome dunya.
Care to elaborate and maybe even provide proof? jizakallah

Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:05 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Nabi Muhammad (SA) has prophesised that
'You will make an alliance with Rum'.
Rum in the Qur'an is easy to identify. It is the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church'; which had established the Byzantine Empire with Constantinople as its capital...
Prophet (SA) said 'You will make an alliance with Rum'. The Byzantine Empire has disappeared today, but the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church' has not. If we want to find Rum, where is the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church' today?
Answer, the headquarters is now in Russia. If I am wrong I ask you to correct me. And so when the Prophet (SA) said, 'You will make an alliance with Rum', my answer is its going to be an alliance with Russia. .."
allahu aclam.
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:54 pm
by saacJabshee
AbuukarSubeer wrote:Nabi Muhammad (SA) has prophesised that
'You will make an alliance with Rum'.
Rum in the Qur'an is easy to identify. It is the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church'; which had established the Byzantine Empire with Constantinople as its capital...
Prophet (SA) said 'You will make an alliance with Rum'. The Byzantine Empire has disappeared today, but the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church' has not. If we want to find Rum, where is the 'Eastern Orthodox Christian Church' today?
Answer, the headquarters is now in Russia. If I am wrong I ask you to correct me. And so when the Prophet (SA) said, 'You will make an alliance with Rum', my answer is its going to be an alliance with Russia. .."
allahu aclam.
okay. a you saying this prophesy is being fufilled today ?
Re: Sayida Zeinab, the Prophet Muhammad's granddaughter
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:02 pm
by ZubeirAwal
the ayah or prophecy has yet to manifest itself, however I think this war is the build-up to it.
as you can see, the christianity you have in eastern orthodox europe, and western zionist europe, are two different kinds, and it is the western zionist christian nations that stand defiant with the opposition in syria.