Should the capital of Somalia change?

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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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hargaysaay wrote:Mogadisho is a big city with a neat town planning it only needs renovation and reconstruction and it will be fit to represent our nation
the rest are shanty little villages compared to Mogadishu who are we kidding, hosting two embassies is gonna be great challenge for them
let alone all governmental institutions.
i agree with u if its only about original somalia aka the ex italian colony. unlike somaliland and her many potentially great cities, somalia only has xamar and that city is no way near rehabilitaed lol

somaliland = usa (many nice cities potentially)
somalia = uk (one nice city only potentially)
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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superlander wrote:
hargaysaay wrote:Mogadisho is a big city with a neat town planning it only needs renovation and reconstruction and it will be fit to represent our nation
the rest are shanty little villages compared to Mogadishu who are we kidding, hosting two embassies is gonna be great challenge for them
let alone all governmental institutions.
i agree with u if its only about original somalia aka the ex italian colony. unlike somaliland and her many potentially great cities, somalia only has xamar and that city is no way near rehabilitaed lol

somaliland = usa (many nice cities potentially)
somalia = uk (one nice city only potentially)
silanyoland is just hot and desert faanka jooji
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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sahal80 wrote:the ones who tried lately have lost their cases after HG brough an ancient jareers from no where who claimed their land being taken by the old regime.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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If we, Isaaq, Darod, Rahawein, Dir and other important Somali pillars join our forces--------we can do so much including building a new capital from zero to hero in just ten years. So I say brothers, let us make a new capital whether Hawiye agrees or not. They are a minority.

Here is the plan. We name a new temporary capital but we lay the stone for a completely brand new capital with no single building. We take our bulldozers, excavators and cranes there and get to work----it should not take longer than 10 years including full embassies, all ministerial departments, civil servant housing blocks, etc etc.

I believe we would build far better city than Mogadishu with capital and security mind.

We limit urbanization for the first 15-20 years and only settle civil servants, security personnel, few hotels and restaurants..leisure, recreations and one national university.

We build it based on the same principles as Australia's Canberra.

At the very center we put one huge Masjid-----north of it Parliament----south Presidential villa (we call it the Buul (after Buul Somali))---East is the University and West is the National Museum.

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Australia built this city in few years after Sydney and Melbourne kept fighting over the capital. Now it is its own territory called ACT...We need SCT (Somali Capital Territory).

Hamar can just be a commercial city full of Hutus.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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superlander wrote: i agree with u if its only about original somalia aka the ex italian colony. unlike somaliland and her many potentially great cities, somalia only has xamar and that city is no way near rehabilitaed lol

somaliland = usa (many nice cities potentially)
somalia = uk (one nice city only potentially)
just a question.
if you hate somalia so much.
then would you stop completely using it's written language?
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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^ why dont u say that same question to djibouti? besides we are fully somali while u guys have jareers, banaadiris etc
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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superlander wrote:^ why dont u say that same question to djibouti? besides we are fully somali while u guys have jareers, banaadiris etc
yes, a full somali has arab origins. :lol:

and

im asking you, as an isaaqlander.
if you hate somalia so much.\ and it's former government

then I dare you to stop using the writing system it made.

I dare you.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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waryaahoy wrote:
superlander wrote:^ why dont u say that same question to djibouti? besides we are fully somali while u guys have jareers, banaadiris etc
yes, a full somali has arab origins. :lol:

and

im asking you, as an isaaqlander.
if you hate somalia so much.\ and it's former government

then I dare you to stop using the writing system it made.

I dare you.
Do you know the difference between Somali, Somalia, Somali Federal Republic, Somalilander and Somalian?

On the same token, we all know Iraq and Kuwait don't like each others. Should Kuwait stop using the Arabic script since Baghdad contributed more to the Arabic literature than 19th century invented Kuwait?

Somalia is not Somali and Somali is not Somalia. A Somali (ethnic) can be the son from Kenya's northern east region, Ethiopia's east, Djibouti, Somaliland region, Somali region...yes Somalia is a region equivalent to Somaliland and the two form what is today The Somali Federal Republic (Nation State).

Until now the citizens of Somalia and the Somali Federal Republic are denoted as a Somali but this is not technically correct because not all ethnic Somalis are citizens of Somali Federal Republic nor Somalia Region.

The correct term should be Somalian.

And allow me to give you an example why this term is not correct. Let us assume that Somali Federal Republic restored stability and became prosperous nation. Now we are hosting immigrants from Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Eritrea, etc, and after a period of time we decided to grant them citizenship. Are you going to identify them as a Somali or as a Somalian?

Of course they can't be Somali because they are not part of our ethnicity but are indeed our nationality which should be Somalian.

The Somali language and its literate is a universal norm shared by all Somalis across the Horn and beyond and no one should be asked to stop being Somali because he or she doesn't agree with Somalia Region or Somali Federal Republic and that includes pro-Ethiopia Abdi Iley of Somali Region of Ethiopia.

Peace out sons and learn the basics.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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FYI the arabic script originates from the nabataean language script. However the arabic script changed

im saying that if they have siad barre and his government so much, then why should they enjoy the fruits of the government they hate so much.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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ive never heard more childish crap.

There are dozens of arab countries , several spanissh speaking countries,
confusing langauge and citizenship is just childish.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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gurey25 wrote:ive never heard more childish crap.

There are dozens of arab countries , several spanissh speaking countries,
confusing langauge and citizenship is just childish.
but if you hate a government, then why should you enjoy the fruits of it.
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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we will enjoy and take whatever we want , because we can.
for example if the government builds a factory or a mine, damn straight im going to enjoy it.

its the spoils of war,.

i took it with my gun and i will keep it,
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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waryaahoy wrote:
gurey25 wrote:ive never heard more childish crap.

There are dozens of arab countries , several spanissh speaking countries,
confusing langauge and citizenship is just childish.
but if you hate a government, then why should you enjoy the fruits of it.
enjoy what? massacres and clan discrimination. - what is is with u faqash and revisionism?
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Re: Should the capital of Somalia change?

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Hawdian wrote:If we, Isaaq, Darod, Rahawein, Dir and other important Somali pillars join our forces--------we can do so much including building a new capital from zero to hero in just ten years. So I say brothers, let us make a new capital whether Hawiye agrees or not. They are a minority.

Here is the plan. We name a new temporary capital but we lay the stone for a completely brand new capital with no single building. We take our bulldozers, excavators and cranes there and get to work----it should not take longer than 10 years including full embassies, all ministerial departments, civil servant housing blocks, etc etc.

I believe we would build far better city than Mogadishu with capital and security mind.

We limit urbanization for the first 15-20 years and only settle civil servants, security personnel, few hotels and restaurants..leisure, recreations and one national university.

We build it based on the same principles as Australia's Canberra.

At the very center we put one huge Masjid-----north of it Parliament----south Presidential villa (we call it the Buul (after Buul Somali))---East is the University and West is the National Museum.

Image

Image

Australia built this city in few years after Sydney and Melbourne kept fighting over the capital. Now it is its own territory called ACT...We need SCT (Somali Capital Territory).

Hamar can just be a commercial city full of Hutus.
very good hawdian infact id say hawiye shouldnt even have a say in this.
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