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Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:51 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Haye what did jufri do? So do you admit that you were wrong in ccalling Sh Hamza a mushrik?
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:52 pm
by grandpakhalif
Imaam Shaafici wrote:"A Sufi cannot be a Sufi unless he has four characteristics; he is lazy, he eats too much, sleeps too much with much extravagance and wastefulness."
Sadaaqt ya Imam Shaafici, indeed this is perfect description of Sufiya today.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:58 pm
by InoCabdi
i have never called HY a mushrik. but the fact that he spreads modernist ideologies shows his deviance.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:01 pm
by InoCabdi
and also you're very stupid if u follow cimran husain and HY at the same time. they both have conflicting ideologies.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:13 pm
by InoCabdi
You're audio is so stupid. I never accused HY being a mushrik. I talked about Yacqoubi. You want a dagaal sxb.
Sufis are ahlas sunnah ?!?! Pffffffffffffft.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:02 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Imam ghazali a Sufi, arguably the greatest thinker of Islam, was upon ahlul sunnah wal jama'a, you see there are lot of deviant Sufi sects, but the ones who stick to the most pure such as Imam Ghazali, the kutub he wrote cannot be matched by anyone, and about Hamza Yusuf, you said
you should learn from ahlis sunnah not from sufi mushriks like yaqoubi and hy
And I don't know where you got those quotes of Imam shafi because surely someone nitpicked and edited the original saying:
Abu Nu`aym narrated with his chain in Hilyat al-Awliya’ that al-Shafi`i said: “If a person did NOT exercise Sufism at the beginning of the day, he would not reach Zuhr except an idiot.” And this is true, as shown by the detractors of Sufism till our time. ((
http://www.livingislam.org/k/si_e.html ))
What is tassawuf? Wake up in the morning, ikhlas three times, salatul duha, subhanallah 100x and then go on your day, and this is what many seem to call a kafir sect, way 7ak
In imam shafici's diwan (RA) he states
Faqîhan wa-s.ufiyyan fakun laysa wa7idan
fa'innî wa-7aqqillâhi iyyâka ans.ah.u
Fadhâlika qâsin lam yadhuq qalbuhu tuqan
wahâdhâ jahûlun kayfa dhûl-jahli yas.luh.u
Learn what that means and do not bring statements of lies of Imam Shafi!
mong al-Shâfi`î's sayings on Sufism and S.ûfîs:
• “I accompanied the S.ûfîs for ten years and benefited from them but from two words: their statement that
time is as word: if you do not cut it, it cuts you,
and their statement that
deprivation is immunity.”[3]
there are many sayings in which imam shafi speaks well of the sufis, salafi websites change them so they can propegate their najdiyya mathab.
You want facts? Go to masr and to the library of alAlexandria and read Imam shafici's diwan, page 177 chapter 45, and don't bring lies upon his name, he knew better than to insult the people of taqwa.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:58 am
by InoCabdi
iim talking about the extreme sufism, genius. ones like yacqoubi and jifri. im talking about the ones who do tawassul the Rasuulki SAW which is xaraam. im talking about the ones who exaggerate with Rasuulki SAW. im talking about the ones who commit shirk. and the ones who follow the likes of ibn arabi who spoke against The Prophet Nuux AS.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:01 am
by ZubeirAwal
Warya, aan wax kuu sheego, before one becomes a learned man in Islam, he reads and studies and does not learn from sheikh youtube.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:06 am
by InoCabdi
AbuukarSubeer wrote:Warya, aan wax kuu sheego, before one becomes a learned man in Islam, he reads and studies and does not learn from sheikh youtube.
ibn arabi was a kafir and a big one. he spoke against Nuux CS.
He also believed in waxadat al wujuud.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:07 am
by Insigne
Masha'allah, he is on the right manhaj.
All of you should be ashamed.
And to the zombie followers of taqleed...we do not worship Sheikhs or graves in Islam..
Sufis are no different to rafidha..
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:10 am
by InoCabdi
AbuukarSubeer wrote:Warya, aan wax kuu sheego, before one becomes a learned man in Islam, he reads and studies and does not learn from sheikh youtube.
do u follow ibn arabi?
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:18 am
by ZubeirAwal
Waryaahoy you read to find the faults of a well known sheikh and not his accolades, this by no means is the way of a seeker of knowledge.
Insignia, tell us more, stop being self-righteous as that is one of the diseases of the qalb, hawa, you do well to wage jihad against it because now you are void of any sense of adab by just saying I'm right your wrong, Islam doesn't work like that, Christianity does so if you love your ego you can take it there.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:20 am
by ZubeirAwal
I have heard from Ibn Arabi and right now I'm reading one his famous kitaabs, stop being shirk police and focus on yourself, only allah knows who's a mu'min and who isn't. So I advise you to be wise and not call anyone you disagree with a Kafir.
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:23 am
by InoCabdi
AbuukarSubeer wrote:Waryaahoy you read to find the faults of a well known sheikh and not his accolades, this by no means is the way of a seeker of knowledge.
Insignia, tell us more, stop being self-righteous as that is one of the diseases of the qalb, hawa, you do well to wage jihad against it because now you are void of any sense of adab by just saying I'm right your wrong, Islam doesn't work like that, Christianity does so if you love your ego you can take it there.
i don't spend my time exposing shuyuukh genius. you're the one who is angry because i mentioned the faults of extreme sufis.
i suggest you learn from better scholars. Not extreme sufis.
And also, Ibn Arabi is a big kaafir. he spoke against a Nabi!
Re: Audio message to 14 year old takfiri boy waryaahoy
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:26 am
by InoCabdi
AbuukarSubeer wrote:I have heard from Ibn Arabi and right now I'm reading one his famous kitaabs, stop being shirk police and focus on yourself, only allah knows who's a mu'min and who isn't. So I advise you to be wise and not call anyone you disagree with a Kafir.
huh? I just talked about extreme sufis and you take it out of proportion.
"Concerning the people of Nooh he said: if they had turned away from their worship of [their idols] Wudd, Siwaa’, Yaghooth and Ya’ooq, they would have lost more of Al-Haqq."
That goes against Nuux AS.
Do you follow Nuux CS or Ibn arabi?