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Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:57 pm
by Titanium
Let's call a spade a spade people. The reason why Muslims are at their lowest point today is because of the Salafiyya. They are the sole reason why Muslims are at their current state. The Salafiyya are the only reason why the ummah is going through fitna.
There is no such thing as an ummah anymore. That word should cease to exist. It was a reality at one point but now a fantasy.
It is absolutely sickening how a member of that sick movement can have the audacity of coming up in here and blaming other things for the problem of the current state of the Muslims. It is like a murderer blaming the victim for their death.
How dare he utter such nonsense from the same tongue people like him have used to spread the evils of the Salafiyya movement.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:41 am
by Twist
Alphanumeric wrote:Ah, the usual response; starvation, war, and oppression are simply a test. A child dying from hunger is only being tested by Allah. A girl who's raped is only tested by Allah. Hardship is simply a test. As well as a life full of comforts. Don't ask questions. Let the kuffaar enjoy this world, eh? What's to come will surely be better. Ignore all your woes, drown them out with dua'. Chase a life of zuhud, renounce all that life has to offer. Prosperity lies in poverty.
^ Exactly what keeps me sleepless many nights. And even worse, there's not way to ever find answers to those questions.
PS: I am not sure if the members above who seem (or should I say, pretend) to be "
shocked" felt that way because what Alpha mentioned here never occurred to them or it's just that they don't want think & question.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:47 am
by Arabman
Titanium wrote:Let's call a spade a spade people. The reason why Muslims are at their lowest point today is because of the Salafiyya. They are the sole reason why Muslims are at their current state. The Salafiyya are the only reason why the ummah is going through fitna.
There is no such thing as an ummah anymore. That word should cease to exist. It was a reality at one point but now a fantasy.
It is absolutely sickening how a member of that sick movement can have the audacity of coming up in here and blaming other things for the problem of the current state of the Muslims. It is like a murderer blaming the victim for their death.
How dare he utter such nonsense from the same tongue people like him have used to spread the evils of the Salafiyya movement.
There are no Salafiyya in power, and before the current revolutions they pretty much didn't exist. Secularists have been in power for at least half a century since the post-colonial times, so the blame squarely lies on them. For instance, it wasn't the Salafiyya who are responsible for Somalia's civil war; it was the secularists.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:56 am
by InoCabdi
GPK:
you getting concerned about ash sham isnt a problem. but ignoring other innocent muslims that are getting eaten, beaten, raped and killed is a problem.
Nu'man b. Bashir reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The similitude of believers in regard to mutual love, affection, fellow-feeling is that of one body; when any limb of it aches, the whole body aches, because of sleeplessness and fever.
[Bukhari]
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:00 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
AbuQatada wrote:?? I don't understand your point.
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Conversation between man and "woman that left kitchen went" wrong.
The reason for all this fitan is that muslims long for worldly life and they are afraid of death. Also knowledge is dissapearing by every day.
Compare that to the golden generation(sahaba), most of them longed for hereafter. They loved to fight in the cause of Allah swt. And every mujahid within their ranks possessed knowledge of the true religion.
If ahlu shaam do not estabilish prayer(after victory), take zakaat from the believers, implement shariahlaw then will you find a better nation?
Allah's messenger pbuh said if there is no goodness in ahlu shaam then there is no goodness in other nation.
May Allah return caliphate in Syria or atleast a strong islamic state that is anti-Zionist, anti-crusaders and anti-Rafidha.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:10 am
by ZubeirAwal
^ Your a pro Zionist, " Rum is america so we should be allies with them instead if Russia"
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:47 am
by Colonel
Alphanumeric wrote:Ah, the usual response; starvation, war, and oppression are simply a test. A child dying from hunger is only being tested by Allah. A girl who's raped is only tested by Allah. Hardship is simply a test. As well as a life full of comforts. Don't ask questions. Let the kuffaar enjoy this world, eh? What's to come will surely be better. Ignore all your woes, drown them out with dua'. Chase a life of zuhud, renounce all that life has to offer. Prosperity lies in poverty.

Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:26 pm
by grandpakhalif
Titanium wrote:Let's call a spade a spade people. The reason why Muslims are at their lowest point today is because of the Salafiyya. They are the sole reason why Muslims are at their current state. The Salafiyya are the only reason why the ummah is going through fitna.
There is no such thing as an ummah anymore. That word should cease to exist. It was a reality at one point but now a fantasy.
It is absolutely sickening how a member of that sick movement can have the audacity of coming up in here and blaming other things for the problem of the current state of the Muslims. It is like a murderer blaming the victim for their death.
How dare he utter such nonsense from the same tongue people like him have used to spread the evils of the Salafiyya movement.
It's secularists like you who are in power, there's not one pure Salafi government other than pre-911 Afghanistan. It's secularists who committing wide massacres, not Salafis.
You are disgusting.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:39 pm
by ZubeirAwal
The reason why the Ummah is in the state that is, is because we fear and admire nations who don't fear us at all, but ridicule us in their media, throw insults at our beloved, and amazingly we imitate their lifestyles, dress-codes, everything. We have taken democracy thrown away the caliphate system the prophet and his companions introduced to us. Muslim governments build mosques with rizq they earned through riba, we let the shaytan into our homes, Ali (RA) said that the end of times will not come until you see the flag of fasad in every home, this flag of fasad is the TV, and folks try to argue and say there's benefit in it (TV), well Allah says there's benefit in Alcohol, a little benefit won't save you from a greater evil. In conclusion, the whole world of islam abandoned the Sunnah and have divided amongst themselves, muslims sit at home on youtube and watch the wars in the Middle East, witnessing muslims being beheaded and widespread bloodshed, then they finish watching as if it they did not just witness insaan being killed and we just watch like it's the gladiators! The only way a muslim can sincerely worship Allah with little to no distractions is to make hijra away from all the dajjalistic fitna and live in a land where he doesnt listen and witness at that which makes the heart hard.
Re: The reason why the ummah is going through fitnah
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:43 pm
by grandpakhalif
ZubeirAwal wrote:The reason why the Ummah is in the state that is, is because we fear and admire nations who don't fear us at all, but ridicule us in their media, throw insults at our beloved, and amazingly we imitate their lifestyles, dress-codes, everything. We have taken democracy thrown away the caliphate system the prophet and his companions introduced to us. Muslim governments build mosques with rizq they earned through riba, we let the shaytan into our homes, Ali (RA) said that the end of times will not come until you see the flag of fasad in every home, this flag of fasad is the TV, and folks try to argue and say there's benefit in it (TV), well Allah says there's benefit in Alcohol, a little benefit won't save you from a greater evil. In conclusion, the whole world of islam abandoned the Sunnah and have divided amongst themselves, muslims sit at home on youtube and watch the wars in the Middle East, witnessing muslims being beheaded and widespread bloodshed, then they finish watching as if it they did not just witness insaan being killed and we just watch like it's the gladiators! The only way a muslim can sincerely worship Allah with little to no distractions is to make hijra away from all the dajjalistic fitna and live in a land where he doesnt listen and witness at that which makes the heart hard.
I agree.