SOMALIS WHO PANDER BLACK "AGENDA"

[Samatr]

Ok so I haven't been coming on here like I used to. I am taken aback by Somalis mostly females who pander this Somalis are "African American" or "Black" nonsense.... We are "SOMALI" before anything else our color is a given & not something we identify our self with as a people. Usually people who are without a nation or tribe resort to those kind of general "Identifications" as a last resort!!! I understand there are "Some" Somali's both men & women who are in relationships with African Americans...I have a hunch some of them have a vested interest to push this regressive idea on us....Since any offspring's they have with African Americans will lose their Somali Identity. So is the wider Somali community supposed to give up its Somali identity because a few want to mold us to their "Agendas" maybe you should've thought about that before marrying out???? I am Somali that has black skin <--adjective. I am not merely a Color. Africans have also called them self's by their ethnicity & tribes & even nationalities but we have never downgraded our human essences to a mere color!!! So can those who are pandering this garbage please tell us whats the fixation & agenda???


I 've seen "Nigerian Americans, Kenyan Americans, Vietnamese American, Korean American ect... Why should we as Somalis call our self's "African Americans" or simply "Black"????

If you live in America you are considered Black whether you like it or not.
If you are stopped by the police you will realize that your opinion of what you are means jack shit, you will realize you are just another nigger to them but with a funny name; don't you forget it either.

I expected this sort of response where one takes up a vague identity
For pc reasons. I thought Somalis had green skin last time I Checked tell us
We were wrong & didn't know our own skin color this whole time. So now some fools are ashamed of
Being somali never thought I'd see that day! When was the last time someone
Saw any Arab say i am Asian???? I hear that African American CEEb will make some people do
Some really crazy shit. This is living prove!

Race in America is pretty clear cut, if your are from Sub-Saharan Africa you are black, I don't make the classifications up.
I heard cadaan ceeb will make some people do crazy things like forget their ethnicity, it also makes them have bad spelling.
This is living proof.

This is living prove!

[Spec2014]

Your the 1st to respond with a well written reply I could not agree with you any more.
Having said that I understand that in America we are viewed as "Black" by physical appearance...Some people on this site as of late have been advocating overtly or covertly that Somalis should simply call themselves "Black" which is the my point for creating this thread....Any Somali with eye sight can tell he is "Black" & its simply a superficial identity....I am sure you've never seen an Arab say "I am Asian" after all much of the Arab world is on the "Asian" landmass....Even other "Black" people from Africa & the Caribbean are proud to tell you I am "Jamaican" "Ethiopian" ect but.... *Some* Somali individuals have taken it a step further advocating that we are simply "African American" or "Black" while discarding the "Somali" identity for the purpose of "assimilation" as some have even put it! Which is tantamount to cultural genocide!

Why should what some Somali people say bother you to such a degree? You know you are Somali (to a fault it may seem) and holding on to your culture is your responsibility. You can teach your kids the language, the music, the culture; what others decide to do with their lives is the least of your concern. If a Somali man/woman wants to be with a non-somali, that is absolutely none of your concern nor does that person owe you anything because you happen to share an ethnicity. They are not indebted to you for any cause or reason or any sort of ethnic loyalty to stick to their own kind. All you can control, is your actions.
You have assimilated to some degree yourself, you speak the language, you wear the clothes, you greet people in the American custom....genocide hasn't happened yet lol.

You've missed my point I don't care who someone lays with & choices to have kids with that's their issues. But I was basically highlighting the constant Somali's who keeping pushing the we are "African American" rhetoric which is completely unchained chained on here. You've made your point but it won't detract from my objective as well which is to counter this nonsense.... If people want to climb into beds with others & bare children or have children with it's their bodies & their rightful choice! But to come on here & try to brain wash the masses with garbage is another thing altogether.Mind you minors populate these forums as well. So thanks for your replying even though you've missed by point...I am entitled to my views & opinions as well & the readers can come to their own conclusions

[Spec2014]

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I expected this sort of response where one takes up a vague identity
For pc reasons. I thought Somalis had green skin last time I Checked tell us
We were wrong & didn't know our own skin color this whole time. So now some fools are ashamed of
Being somali never thought I'd see that day! When was the last time someone
Saw any Arab say i am Asian???? I hear that African American CEEb will make some people do
Some really crazy shit. This is living prove![/quote]

Race in America is pretty clear cut, if your are from Sub-Saharan Africa you are black, I don't make the classifications up.
I heard cadaan ceeb will make some people do crazy things like forget their ethnicity, it also makes them have bad spelling.
This is living proof.



The subject at hand is not the "Blackness" of "Somalis" but how somalis identify them self's as which isn't simply a superficial one i.e "BLACK" but by ethnicity---->Somali & even --->SOMALI AMERICAN..
No one is disputing that Somali's aren't Black since its a very obvious point! Some of you have the Black "CEEB" so far up your craniums that you don't think we should call our self's Somali's anymore but some other vague identities that is not befitting.... All you "Black Ceeb" lovers keep reiterating is "Somalis are a "Black" people" NO FU@CKIN SH!T??????? Who would've ever thought Somalis are a Black?????? I always thought they were BLUE!!! We are SOMALI/SOMALI-AMERICAN....If you want to be called "African American" or Simply "Black" its your prerogative just don't push it on those of us who are Somali & identify our self's as such!! Thank You Very Much!! No go back to nursing on that Black ceeb!!!

[Samatr]

Black= Sub-Saharan Africa
Somalia= Sub-Saharan Africa

It's very simple to understand, I think Tyrone took your girl and now you hate all African Americans.
I know about guys like you who would weep with joy if a cadaan convert would marry their sister but would hate their sister to marry from a clan they look down on.
Let me explain to you how it works, Japanese Americans are still Asian Americans, Somali Americans are African -Americans/Black Americans; you have a huge inferiority complex.
If you are trolling, you are doing a horrible job Black boy.

[Spec2014]

Black= Sub-Saharan Africa
Somalia= Sub-Saharan Africa

It's very simple to understand, I think Tyrone took your girl and now you hate all African Americans.
I know about guys like you who would weep with joy if a cadaan convert would marry their sister but would hate their sister to marry from a clan they look down on.
Let me explain to you how it works, Japanese Americans are still Asian Americans, Somali Americans are African -Americans/Black Americans; you have a huge inferiority complex.
If you are trolling, you are doing a horrible job Black boy.

You keep repeating the same tired crap... No Africa is on one of Saturn's moons... I believe the majority of the people reading this know which continent Somalia is located on, which makes you look like a pile of steamy fecal matter! You keep avoiding the fact that we call our self's Somali & not a color...Even somalis in the bush who've never seen a class room know which continent there country is on. So you're making a very dumb point with that! I don't know of any African Immigrants or expats that simply call themselves "African Americans". Just because a few self hating Somalis who have African Americans by the shirt tails like a prison bittch sure aren't going to change the views of 100's of thousands of Somalis in the west. When people look at your face they can tell your from the Horn of Africa & not Atlanta or Mississippi...But you can keep pandering that trash all you want.... even most African Americans look at Somalis as being totally different then them & many don't even consider Somalis "Black". But keep holding on to their shirt tails like a hoe.

[ms.naliaa]

You keep saying that there are "people" in here that keep saying that Somalis should call themselves "African Americans"
(side not: Somali are African and those who live in America are considered American ). But I dont see anyone in here who is trying to "brain wash" the youths in saying that they should forgo their Somali-ness.

So, Id like some proof.

[Spec2014]

You keep saying that there are "people" in here that keep saying that Somalis should call themselves "African Americans"
(side not: Somali are African and those who live in America are considered American ). But I dont see anyone in here who is trying to "brain wash" the youths in saying that they should forgo their Somali-ness.

So, Id like some proof.

Look at a few of the responds to this thread...where some are vehemently pushing the idea that we should call our self's "African Americans" as opposed to Somali American....

[ms.naliaa]

You keep saying that there are "people" in here that keep saying that Somalis should call themselves "African Americans"
(side not: Somali are African and those who live in America are considered American ). But I dont see anyone in here who is trying to "brain wash" the youths in saying that they should forgo their Somali-ness.

So, Id like some proof.

Look at a few of the responds to this thread...where some are vehemently pushing the idea that we should call our self's "African Americans" as opposed to Somali American....

I dont see that actually.
I see you going a tirade that keeps going in circles
p.s.
Cant someone be both African American and Somali American???

[herndonhomer]

well it's basically the same thing as a european immigrant moving to america if you think about it. they intermarry with american whites and assimilate within a generation. the smoothest transition somalis can make in america with an established group is african-americans.

I don't know where this treachery is emanating from...assimilation is a just a nice way of saying "Genocide"! No way around it. Why should we give up our identity, culture language to fit in with a mongrel race who has long lost theirs??? Not to mention the 2 cultures are very incompatible! We have a homeland & a rich culture that's worth it's weight in gold! To lose it to African Americans is treacherous! Other groups that have been here for 100's of years such as the Chinese & Mexican Americans have retained their culture! When has it been a sin to be Somali & why are many of you fools advocating Somalis to strip their culture & take on African American culture??? I feel great disgust each time I hear another skinny pandering this sleazy garbage!! The African Americans must be pushing this Idea on today's youth especially the "Nation of Islam buffoons" a sub link of the Black Panthers!

Am I missing something here? ain't no damn homeland no more and literally every different culture on the planet regards their own culture as "rich". somalis ain't special we got to end this superiority complex towards AA's.

[Spec2014]

You keep saying that there are "people" in here that keep saying that Somalis should call themselves "African Americans"
(side not: Somali are African and those who live in America are considered American ). But I dont see anyone in here who is trying to "brain wash" the youths in saying that they should forgo their Somali-ness.

So, Id like some proof.

Look at a few of the responds to this thread...where some are vehemently pushing the idea that we should call our self's "African Americans" as opposed to Somali American....


I dont see that actually.
I see you going a tirade that keeps going in circles
p.s.

You can be multiple colored monkeys uncle if you want but don't expect others to as well

[Spec2014]

well it's basically the same thing as a european immigrant moving to america if you think about it. they intermarry with american whites and assimilate within a generation. the smoothest transition somalis can make in america with an established group is african-americans.

I don't know where this treachery is emanating from...assimilation is a just a nice way of saying "Genocide"! No way around it. Why should we give up our identity, culture language to fit in with a mongrel race who has long lost theirs??? Not to mention the 2 cultures are very incompatible! We have a homeland & a rich culture that's worth it's weight in gold! To lose it to African Americans is treacherous! Other groups that have been here for 100's of years such as the Chinese & Mexican Americans have retained their culture! When has it been a sin to be Somali & why are many of you fools advocating Somalis to strip their culture & take on African American culture??? I feel great disgust each time I hear another skinny pandering this sleazy garbage!! The African Americans must be pushing this Idea on today's youth especially the "Nation of Islam buffoons" a sub link of the Black Panthers!

Am I missing something here? ain't no damn homeland no more and literally every different culture on the planet regards their own culture as "rich". somalis ain't special we got to end this superiority complex towards AA's.

Says the guy who was advocating that Somali's assimilate with "African Americans"??? So in your eyes the Somali's culture is not worth saving, & the African American's should be elevated over ours ???? What am I missing here??? A lot of self hating Somalis crawling out of the wood works or could they be African American trolls??? We shall never know thanks to the anonymity of the internet??? ....Subvert our culture while praising another whats going on here ???

[Sophisticate]

Spec2014 you make an interesting point. Bro or sis are you afraid these people are commingling? What is your greatest fear really? I'm really curious. My hooyo lived in the states over 30 years ago for schooling, she rarely interacted with AA, just the few Somalis and Eritreans that were there. Although this was in the deep south and people that were black or brown in skin colour were barred from frequenting certain areas, and where sundown towns were still present. Anyway, I had assumed ethnicity trumped skin colour any day.

From what I also gather its impossible to identify with the plight of transatlantic blacks. I mean their ancestors were stripped of their identifiers (names, ancestral legacy, language, customs, clothing) and interjected with foreign elements that I feel has transmuted them into a totally different people. Although I must congratulate them for fighting for their life and freedom. I still question where this blackness came from, who imposes it and what interest or goals that it serves. That is something I would like to know. It seems as what is black is taken for granted notion.

[Spec2014]

Spec2014 you make an interesting point. Bro or sis are you afraid these people are commingling? What is your greatest fear really? I'm really curious. My hooyo lived in the states over 30 years ago for schooling, she rarely interacted with AA, just the few Somalis and Eritreans that were there. Although this was in the deep south and people that were black or brown in skin colour were barred from frequenting certain areas, and where sundown towns were still present. Anyway, I had assumed ethnicity trumped skin colour any day.

From what I also gather its impossible to identify with the plight of transatlantic blacks. I mean their ancestors were stripped of their identifiers (names, ancestral legacy, language, customs, clothing) and interjected with foreign elements that I feel has transmuted them into a totally different people. Although I must congratulate them for fighting for their life and freedom. I still question where this blackness came from, who imposes it and what interest or goals that it serves. That is something I would like to know. It seems as what is black is taken for granted notion.

You & I think quite alike...we don't share anything with African Americans but skin color & this whole idea of being "Black" is foreign to Somalis who haven't until recently faced this odd identity situation shoved in their faces...! The only nation on the African Continent where Africans identify by color is South Africa.... The rest of Africa already knows their skin color & its an unspoken fact... But some will have you thinking that your color trumps your ethnicity or even nationality. Its a foreign concept to much of the world...For example Latin America has many African descendents who don't identify by their skin color but rather their nationality. This whole "Black" ideology has it's roots in the United States & Europe....So I too question whats the agenda behind this foolish nonsense.

[ms.naliaa]

oh, I get it now. By calling a Somali an African American, you believe that they will no longer be Somali but just another black guy/girl in the black masses.

Gotcha.


p.s.
I do agree that we dont and cant relate to the plight of the Americans whose ancestors were enslaved. We as Somalis have not dealt with perpetual racism generation after generation like they have. The concept of being Black was created by those same people who created slavery.

[Spec2014]

oh, I get it now. By calling a Somali an African American, you believe that they will no longer be Somali but just another black guy/girl in the black masses.

Gotcha.


p.s.
I do agree that we dont and cant relate to the plight of the Americans whose ancestors were enslaved. We as Somalis have not dealt with perpetual racism generation after generation like they have. The concept of being Black was created by those same people who created slavery.