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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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What protest? He was rejected at the door! :Heh:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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He was protesting this was 21 February 2012 before the London conference i don't see where and when how he was rejected?
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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oxymoron wrote:
Date:1990 March 13
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/ ... 527_a.html

REPORT TO PRESIDENT
SIAD BARRE, ABOUT THE STATUS OF HIS ARMY IN THE NORTH & SNM REBEL GROUP.

PROFITEERING "WARLORDS" HAD TAKEN FULL CHARGE OF
SOMALI ARMY FORCES STATIONED IN THE NORTHWEST. HE FOUND
NONE/NONE PROSECUTING THE WAR AGAINST SNM. INSTEAD,
ALL SENIOR COMMANDERS WERE DEVOTING THEMSELVES ENTIRELY
TO BUSINESS DEALS, SELLING SOLDIERS' RATIONS, FUEL, AND
AMMUNITION TO BOTH SNM AND TRIBAL FIGHTERS.
-
-- FIGHTING NOW GOING ON WAS CONDUCTED ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY BY TRIBAL MILITIAS OR "FRONTS" AND WAS AIMED
AT PRESERVING TRIBAL TERRITORIES, HERDS, WATERHOLES, AND
GRAZING AREAS AGAINST ENCROACHMENTS BY OTHERS (OFTEN BUT
NOT ALWAYS SNM). SOLDIERS BELONGING TO LOCAL CLANS HAD
DESERTED THEIR UNITS AND SHED THEIR UNIFORMS IN ORDER TO
FIGHT ALONGSIDE TRIBAL BROTHERS; THOSE FROM OUTSIDE THE
REGION HAD SIMPLY WITHDRAWN TO TOWNS TO WAIT OUT THE WAR.
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-- TRADE IN GUNS AND AMMUNITION HAD BECOME HIGHLY
PROFITABLE FOR ARMY OFFICERS, SINCE BOTH SNM AND ALLIES
AND THEIR TRIBAL OPPONENTS WERE BIDDING UP PRICES.
COMMANDERS WERE ALSO PROFITLNG FROM DESERTION OF THEIR
TROOPS BY SIMPLY POCKETING SALARIES.
-
-- MANY DISPLACED PERSONS (I.E. ISAAKS) WOULD HAVE
RETURNED HOME LONG AGO HAD THEY NOT BEEN DETERRED FROM
DOING SO BY BOTH/BOTH SNM AND GOVERNMENT FORCES. GROWING
NUMBERS WERE NOW RETURNING, BECAUSE AUTHORITY ON BOTH
SIDES HAD PRACTICALLY COLLAPSED AND ISAAKS, SUFFERING
FROM THIRST, HUNGER, DISEASE, AND ABOMINABLE CAMP
CONDITIONS, WERE DEMANDING TO GO HOME.
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-- AMONG THEMSELVES, TRIBAL LEADERS -- REALIZING THEY HAD
BECOME VICTIMS AND PAWNS IN THE WAR BETWEEN SIAD AND SNM --
WERE NEGOTIATING PEACE AGREEMENTS ON ALL SIDES. ISAAKS OF
HABR TOLJALQ AND HABR YUNIS CLANS HAD SIGNED A TRUCE
WITH DOLBAHANTA FROM LAS ANOD. ISAAKS FROM HARGEISA AND
BORAMA HABR AWAL WERE SUING QADABOURSI FOR PEACE ALONG
THEIR COMMON TERRITORIAL BORDER EAST OF BORAMA. A SIMILAR
AGREEMENT BETWEEN GADABOURSI AND ISSA APPEARED WITHIN
REACH.
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-- CLOSURE OF DJIBOUTI-BORAMA HIGHWAY HAD BADLY HURT
COMMUNITIES ALONG THAT ROAD AND FORCED PRICES SKY HIGH IN
BORAMA. A 50 KILO BAG OF RICE NOW COST MORE THAN 80,000
SO.SH., OR ABOUT TWELVE TIMES THE PRICE OF AN AVERAGE
GOAT. HOWEVER, GADABOURSI IN BORAMA HAD ESTABLISHED
ALTERNATIVE TRADE LINKS VIA BERBERA AND WERE RUNNING
CONVOYS UNDER ARMED (NON-MILITARY) ESCORT FOUR TIMES A
MONTH, CARRYING LIVESTOCK TO BERBERA PORT AND RETURNING
WITH SUPPLIES OF FOOD. (COLONEL OMAR COMMENTED THAT IT
WAS NOW DJIBOUTI ITSELF THAT WAS SUFFERING MOST FROM
CLOSURE OF THE ROAD AND LOSS OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.)

-
4. THE SNM LEADERSHIP WAS
ITSELF COLLAPSING, ITS FORCES HAD TAKEN SEVERAL SEVERE
DEFEATS AT THE HANDS OF GADABOURSI AND OTHER TRIBAL
"FRONTS" IN RECENT WEEKS, AND ISAAK ELDERS WERE PROBING
FOR PEACE DEALS AMONG BOTH OTHER TRIBAL GROUPS AND GSDR
ITSELF. SNM LEADERS WERE NO LONGER "TALKING SO TOUGH"
AS THEY HAD BEFORE AND ARE SO DIVIDED THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO HOLD THEIR SCHEDULED CONGRESS. INDEED, COLONEL OMAR
SAID, THEY HAVE FALLEN INTO THE SAME HABITS AS SOMALI
ARMY OFFICERS: USING TRUCKS DONATED BY ISAAK SUPPORTERS TO
TRANSPORT KHAT AND FOR OTHER PRIVATE COMMERICAL PURPOSES.


-
5. ONE INTERESTING SIDELIGHT: WITH THE EXHAUSTION OF
NOMADIC FIGHTERS ON BOTH SIDES OR THE BORDER AND SOLDIERS
FROM BOTH SIDES SELLING THEIR GUNS TO BUY FOOD, BIGGEST
PURCHASERS OF WEAPONS HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE THE OROMO
LIBERATION FRONT. OMAR POINTED OUT THAT THE OLF (WHICH
COUNTS ON BACKING FROM SOME 22 MILLION OROMOS, OMAR SAID)
NOW SEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MENGISTU'S
SETBACKS AT THE HANDS OF ERITREANS AND TIGRAYANS AND HAVE
SUDDENLY GROWN VERY AMBITIOUS.

-
6. COMMENT: COLONEL OMAR'S ASSIGNMENT, WE INFER, WAS TO
INSURE THAT THE GADABOURSI AROUND BORAMA REMAIN FIRMLY
ENROLLED ON THE SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT (THEY ARE IN FACT
SURROUNDED BY ANTI-GOVERNMENT ISAAK AND ISSA FORCES THAT
HAVE BEEN TRYING UNSUCCESSFULLY TO BRING BORAMA TO ITS
KNEES). OMAR SEEMS TO HAVE GONE BEYOND HIS ASSIGNMENT,
HOWEVER, TO SURVEY THE MILITARY AND POLITICAL SITUATION
GENERALLY IN THE NORTHWEST. HIS REPORT TO THE PRESIDENT
HAS BOTH BAD NEWS AND GOOD NEWS: AN UTTERLY INEFFECTIVE
AND CORRUPT SOMALI ARMY FORCE FACING AN EQUALLY INEFFECTUAL
AND EXHAUSTED INSURGENCY. OMAR BELIEVES EVERYONE IS TIRED
OF THE WAR NOW AND LOOKING FOR PEACE AND WE HOPE HE'S
RIGHT. CERTAINLY PRIME MINISTER SAMANTAR IS COUNTING
HEAVILY ON THE FATIGUE FACTOR, AS HE MOUNTS HIS RELIEF
OPERATION FOR RETURNED ISAAKS IN BURAO AND PROMISES A
PEACE AGREEMENT WITHIN TWO MONTHS.

Whats the source of this?

REPORT TO PRESIDENT
SIAD BARRE, ABOUT THE STATUS OF HIS ARMY IN THE NORTH & SNM REBEL GROUP.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
a leak about what some underling reported to siad barre in the dying days of the regime.
and this is your source?
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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Khalid Ali wrote:He was protesting this was 21 February 2012 before the London conference i don't see where and when how he was rejected?
Stop lying! He went there to partake the london conference uninvited and they rejected his ass at the door. The most humiliated Somali ever!
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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Metamorphosis war forget that remember when he caught the bus to the SL&Somalia talks in Turkey?

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I was laughing for at least 10 minutes :lol: :lol: you can see the fatigue in the old mans face :lol:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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^ :dead: :dead:

Ismail say wallahi that's true !! I was laughing at met's video and I saw even worse :dead:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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Bro pictures don't lie :pac:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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the other thing i heard is mr silaanyo doesn't know when to stop eating. Da'da baa ka daba timid so he has to be told it's time to stop eating :dead:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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That looks like a hired bus for himself and his staff.....
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hydrogen wrote:That looks like a hired bus from himself and his staff.....
Is that the irrir in you speaking :leon: :ehh:
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BlackRain wrote:
hydrogen wrote:That looks like a hired bus for himself and his staff.....
Is that the irrir in you speaking :leon: :ehh:
No that's me observing a picture and deducing something rational from it.
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jareerad bantu siding with isaaaq. Only on cyber !!! :pac:
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Re: Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre A

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Ismail87 wrote:Metamorphosis war forget that remember when he caught the bus to the SL&Somalia talks in Turkey?

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I was laughing for at least 10 minutes :lol: :lol: you can see the fatigue in the old mans face :lol:
:lol: here is the video.

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BlackRain wrote:jareerad bantu siding with isaaaq. Only on cyber !!! :pac:
:Heh:
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BlackRain wrote:jareerad bantu siding with isaaaq. Only on cyber !!! :pac:
Are you mistaking me for your Osman Mohamud cousins who recently were crying about what happen to their jareer relatives in S/hoose?

And I'm not "siding" with anyone.
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