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Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:00 am
by XimanJaale
Wallahi these retarded Ogaden members are living a dream. How can they quick to forget who the real boss of Jubbaland is? How can they forget how they got abused by Marehan in the last 16 years?
Kablalax cannot beat Marehan without Al-Shabaab (back in 2006-2008) and today they cannot beat Marehan without the Kenyans. Whilst the Marehan do not need any help from either Ethiopia or any other Somali clan.
Today though they are controlling Kismaayo with the power of Kenya they still need Marehan to seek political power. Hence their desperate attempts of giving Marehan 2 ministerial positions and giving Fartaag the second in command of their admin. They know that they cannot be in power without Kenya or Marehan. Yet they have the audacity to gloat and pretend they are powerful. Wallahi 1 sub-clan of Marehan can fuck the whole Kablalax.
Know your recent history:

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:10 am
by grandpakhalif
XimanJaale wrote:Wallahi these retarded Ogaden members are living a dream. How can they quick to forget who the real boss of Jubbaland is? How can they forget how they got abused by Marehan in the last 16 years?
Kablalax cannot beat Marehan without Al-Shabaab (back in 2006-2008) and today they cannot beat Marehan without the Kenyans. Whilst the Marehan do not need any help from either Ethiopia or any other Somali clan.
Today though they are controlling Kismaayo with the power of Kenya they still need Marehan to seek political power. Hence their desperate attempts of giving Marehan 2 ministerial positions and giving Fartaag the second in command of their admin. They know that they cannot be in power without Kenya or Marehan. Yet they have the audacity to gloat and pretend they are powerful. Wallahi 1 sub-clan of Marehan can fuck the whole Kablalax.
Know your recent history:

wow ximan go easy on them they are already abused b amxaar

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:18 am
by XimanJaale
grandpakhalif wrote:
wow ximan go easy on them they are already abused b amxaar

We have been respecting them and being soft on our fellow Daarood cousins for a long time, it is time for them to taste the reality.

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:51 am
by Colonel
Warya Xiimaan you're a grown man there's no need for insults sxb, let's discuss this in a good manner.
The screenprint you posted only reinforces what we've been saying. Ogaden troops under Sheikh Hassan Turki captured not only Kismayo but the whole region back in 06.
Kismayo then fell to Ethiopians (not MX

) in 07.
Guess what, Ogadeni HSM troops once again retook kismayo a year later. Yes there was other tribes involved however they were a minority, your screenprint itself mentions the leader role Ogaden took in the 08 battle. Barre Hiiraale himself blamed Ogaden for chasing him out.
Saxiib let's be honest, MX needs Ogaden to survive. When we pulled our support for MSB it was over for you.
Then we took leadership in the Darood SPM and bailed you out from Hawiye in 91. When a part of Ogaden pulled their support we once again sent you running for your lives. Only for you to be protected by Belgian/US troops for the next few years

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:00 am
by XimanJaale
Colonel wrote:Warya Xiimaan you're a grown man there's no need for insults sxb, let's discuss this in a good manner.
The screenprint you posted only reinforces what we've been saying. Ogaden troops under Sheikh Hassan Turki captured not only Kismayo but the whole region back in 06.
Kismayo then fell to Ethiopians (not MX

) in 07.
Guess what, Ogadeni HSM troops once again retook kismayo a year later. Yes there was other tribes involved however they were a minority, your screenprint itself mentions the leader role Ogaden took in the 08 battle.
Saxiib let's be honest, MX needs Ogaden to survive. When we pulled our support for MSB it was over for you.
Then we took leadership in the Darood SPM and bailed you out from Hawiye in 91. When a part of Ogaden pulled their support we once again sent you running for your lives. Only for you to be protected by Belgian/US troops for the next few years

Wallahi you have no clue do you? Don't embarrass yourself. You have zero clue about the Kismaayo wars of 2006-2009.
Regards to 1991, you wish. It was Marehan VS USC & SPM + Raxanweyne and minorities. Remember how Omar Jess was named Caasho Jess? When Hawiye used you and then began attacking you then did you decide to join our fight against USC. You were always a bunch of traitors.
You know nothing about the recent history of Somalia.
Whilst Marehan were busy trying to recapture Mogadishu, the weak Ogadens tried to capture Baidoa and were being beaten by Raxanweyne and their bows and arrows!!
Marehan advancing towards Mogadishu:
Weak pathetic Ogadens being beaten by Raxanweyne with their bows and arrows

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Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:20 am
by Colonel
Sxb don't get angry at facts.
Ethiopia is the sole reason you entered Kismayo in 07.
As with Mogadishu, Kismayo fell with little fighting. A battalion of Islamists traded artillery fire with the Ethiopian-led troops at Jilib, north of Kismayo, late on Sunday, before retreating towards Kismayo and then beyond.
As the Islamists left, residents looted their bases, dragging away machine guns and other weapons. Some fighters shed their uniforms and melted back into their clans, but the hardline leaders and fighters belonging to the Islamists' radical wing, Shabaab, are believed to have retreated to fight again.
According to agency reports, Ethiopian jets flew low over the sea looking for any boats that might be carrying escaping Islamist fighters. The US, which has a large military base in neighbouring Djibouti, was said to be assisting with intelligence and surveillance from the air and water.
ICU actually left the city without a fight after clan elders asked them to leave.
Mohammed Arab, a leader of the Ogaden sub-clan, said 36 elders of various clans and sub-clans met over the weekend with Islamist leaders and tried to persuade them that resisting the huge Ethiopian-backed force heading toward them would be futile.
“We told them that they were going to lose,” Mr. Arab said, “and that our city would get destroyed.”
Therefore you entered Kismayo on the backs of Ethiopian tanks. I don't need to provide evidence for who retook the city in 08 as you've already done that for me
EDIT: lol @ that last screen print, more comedy from our MX friends. Don't make me post the evidence that we took over leadership of all Darood in the south and launched the successful counter offensive.
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:27 am
by HusseinHassan
what does gudoomiyaha degmada kismaayo mean? is that the mayorship position?
Gudoomiyaha gobolka Jubada Hoose….Cabdirashiid Cabdullaahi Cali Gooni…….Absame
Gudoomiyaha degmada Kismaayo……Ibraahim Maxamed Yuusuf………………..Harti
Gudoomiye kuxigeenka degmada Kismaayo……………………………………………….Mareexaan
Guddomiye kuxigeenka degmada Kismaayo………………………………………………Absame
Gudoomiye kuxigeenka degmada Kismaayo………………………………………………Gaaljecel
http://www.dhanaan.com/dhanaan/beelaha- ... -kismaayo/
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:31 am
by XimanJaale
Colonel wrote:Sxb don't get angry at facts.
Ethiopia is the sole reason you entered Kismayo in 07.
As with Mogadishu, Kismayo fell with little fighting. A battalion of Islamists traded artillery fire with the Ethiopian-led troops at Jilib, north of Kismayo, late on Sunday, before retreating towards Kismayo and then beyond.
As the Islamists left, residents looted their bases, dragging away machine guns and other weapons. Some fighters shed their uniforms and melted back into their clans, but the hardline leaders and fighters belonging to the Islamists' radical wing, Shabaab, are believed to have retreated to fight again.
According to agency reports, Ethiopian jets flew low over the sea looking for any boats that might be carrying escaping Islamist fighters. The US, which has a large military base in neighbouring Djibouti, was said to be assisting with intelligence and surveillance from the air and water.
ICU actually left the city without a fight after clan elders asked them to leave.
Mohammed Arab, a leader of the Ogaden sub-clan, said 36 elders of various clans and sub-clans met over the weekend with Islamist leaders and tried to persuade them that resisting the huge Ethiopian-backed force heading toward them would be futile.
“We told them that they were going to lose,” Mr. Arab said, “and that our city would get destroyed.”
Therefore you entered Kismayo on the backs of Ethiopian tanks. I don't need to provide evidence for who retook the city in 08 as you've already done that for me
EDIT: lol @ that last screen print, more comedy from our MX friends. Don't make me post the evidence that we took over leadership of all Darood in the south and launched the successful counter offensive.
What facts? You are merely posting journalistic articles whom aren't verified and neither independent. Whilst I'm posting factual events recorded and verified by souces whilst being used in books!
I'm not denying the Ethiopians presence's in Kismaayo. Because Ethiopians were actually raiding all cities in Somalia against ICU, they didn't come to Kismaayo to help Marehan. Also the following year, the Ethiopians left the town and the Majerteens whom tried to take control were easily beaten out of Kismaayo.
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:42 am
by Colonel
XimanJaale wrote:
I'm not denying the Ethiopians presence's in Kismaayo. Because Ethiopians were actually raiding all cities in Somalia against ICU, they didn't come to Kismaayo to help Marehan. Also the following year, the Ethiopians left the town and the Majerteens whom tried to take control were easily beaten out of Kismaayo.
What has that got to do with Ogaden? When we came back we rightfully took the city, you're own man Hiiraale made a recording blaming Ogaden. Are you going to deny that too?
As for the civil war, where was Marehan leadership during the counter-offensive of Darood? Both positions of Chairman and Military Commander were given to Ogaden while Harti got the Police leadership. Where was Marehan?
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:49 am
by HusseinHassan
colonel and ximanjaale, both of you need to stop. forget about lower jubba and gedo, kismaayo alone is enough for all of us to live together, side by side. jubbaland is very large for us and every sade, absame and harti family can have 4 acres of land and there will still be more free/empty land that would be available.
jubbaland/puntland is for you and me guys so stop this nonesense, mareexaan did this, ogaden did that.

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:52 am
by XimanJaale
Colonel wrote:XimanJaale wrote:
I'm not denying the Ethiopians presence's in Kismaayo. Because Ethiopians were actually raiding all cities in Somalia against ICU, they didn't come to Kismaayo to help Marehan. Also the following year, the Ethiopians left the town and the Majerteens whom tried to take control were easily beaten out of Kismaayo.
What has that got to do with Ogaden? When we came back we rightfully took the city, you're own man Hiiraale made a recording blaming Ogaden. Are you going to deny that too?
As for the civil war, where was Marehan leadership during the counter-offensive of Darood? Both positions of Chairman and Military Commander were given to Ogaden while Harti got the Police leadership. Where was Marehan?
It has everything to do with Ogaden, because you guys attempted to capture Kismaayo in 2008 and faced severe lose as the text I provided states it. There were no Ethiopians in Kismaayo back in 2008! So both Harti and Ogaden lost to Marehan without Ethiopians!! Do you get it now??
You are really a funny guy. Are you trying to say SNF was a Ogaden/Harti group?
Just because Siad Barre made Morgan one of the military leaders of SNF does not make it a Kablalax group.
It was General Gaani that was leading the Marehan to recapture Mogadishu whilst the dumb Ogadens were being busy butchered:
SNF were the only Daarood group that was fighting against USC majority of the time. The dumb Ogadens of SPM decided to help their fellow Daaroods after the USC decided to break the deal you had with them! Hence you decided to help SNF just to save your own ass.

Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:06 am
by Colonel
You're all over the place. Jess defected from MSB's government and took control of Bakool region in 1990, he formed an alliance with USC which didn't last long and after joined up with Darood in the south.
The counter-offensive was launched from Dhoobley (Ogaden town) and lead by Ogaden followed by Harti. That's how Kismayo was retaken, I don't see Marehan having any major role in that.
I don't see why you're mentioning Mogadishu and other regions, the discussion is about Kismayo. Is it because you don't have any history in Kismayo besides the 7 years under HG?
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:21 am
by XimanJaale
Colonel wrote:You're all over the place. Jess defected from MSB's government and took control of Bakool region in 1990, he formed an alliance with USC which didn't last long and after joined up with Darood in the south.
The counter-offensive was launched from Dhoobley (Ogaden town) and lead by Ogaden followed by Harti. That's how Kismayo was retaken, I don't see Marehan having any major role in that.
I don't see why you're mentioning Mogadishu and other regions, the discussion is about Kismayo. Is it because you don't have any history in Kismayo besides the 7 years under HG?
Are you dumb? Marehan were busy defending Gedo, occupying Bay and counter-attacking Mogadishu whilst defending attacks USC from Gaalkacyo and Galgaduud. Again the SNF forces operated and defended Kismaayo, and Morgan was put in leader for it whilst Marehan leaders were busy fighting the heavy sections of USC in the surroundings of Mogadishu.
At the end of the day, Marehan have the power to fight an alliances of different Somali clans without any significant help from other Daaroods. And we do not need Ethiopians, Kenyans or any other Somali clans to help us control Kismaayo.
I just hope that Kenyan forces leave Kismaayo, it will be the end of Ogaden fairy tale dream.
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:45 am
by Colonel
Just as I thought, no history in Kismayo or Jubba region. We shall see what happens when Kenyans leave, we've already had a sneak preview a few months back however this time there won't be any excuses for you guys.
Re: Fartaag and Madoobe close to fighting. Jubba Mamul endin
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:19 pm
by The`Republic
If what Hussein posted is what they named, then it seems they settled for tie breaker and named the guyss they wanted Cabdi Barre (Marehan/Fartaag) and Cabdullahi Dheere (Ogaden/Madoobe) as deputies.
The idea that Marehan will negotiate on Kismaayo. I look forward to the day the Kenyan baboons leave.