Biyomaal, Geledi, Tunni, Jareerweyn: 'Baldy our new hero'

[Xildiiid]

The thing is without Federalism How do You think Somaliland, Puntland would come back into the fold? You think they would accept Central Rule?

And who told you Somaliland is in favor of federalism so far from what i have seen is totally the opposite. Also what we are witnessing is far from federalism and instead is making matters much worse for south central Somalia.

Ofcourse, I agree the implementation is a disaster, but I agree in the idea of Federalism. The problem is the Somali Gov doesn't have the credibility, trust, capability to implement it so they have to rely on neighbors who frankly don't know anything about Somalia. As for Somaliland, listen lets just cut the BS. They will never, ever be recognized. Eventually somehow someway they will come back to the union and when they do they will want no part of Central rule and would only accept being a autonomous Federal State. You also ignored the part about Puntland, You think Puntland would accept Central rule?

Keep SL out of your mouth you filthy Boon gudhuu.

[Vivacious]

At this moment in time i'll support anything that brings lasting peace, stability and progression for all Somalis. Somalia as a whole will never recover as long as we want to retain our clan hegemony and try keeping other clans in check. If we can't all agree on something then let everyone go their way. Simple really.

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[STARKAST]

Marques i already said that, however successionism is a game that is only played by fools, confused people and kuffar. I know you come from a clan that practices successionism but don't feel the need to normalize it when your clansmans are around, reject it.

Regarding the thread if baldy presence induces peace then so be it, we should 'rally' behind him, same as if xamar governor did.

[Murax]

Even123,

I'm with You 100%. I think the debate should be what kind of Federalism, how will it be implemented Vs Federalism or Centralism. That ship has sailed, since 2004 that was the model that the world agreed to for Somalia and frankly its the one that makes the most sense now.



Bermooda,

No doubt, everybody has their reasons for not wanting Centralism. For some the reason may be due to Siyaad Barre aun. For others it may be the fact that Mogadishu was home to all kinds of warlords for a very long time and people can't picture a central Gov there. For others it may be a different reason. Whatever the reason, the fact is that it is not feasible for Somalia now. The current Gov cannot stop attacks agianst ministers, mps, etc. with 8k AMISOM in Xamar alone, how the hell can they protect and rule from Ras Casayr to Ras Kambooni?

[Khalid Ali]

Let me tell you Somaliland will never ever be part of Somalia whether they have federalism centralism autonomy they have been clear about their stance its consistent for 23 years , the pursuit of recognition will most likely continue till its achieved. Somaliland independence is sacred , for many walanweyns this is hard to grasp but this is very true.

[thegoodshepherd]

Let me tell you Somaliland will never ever be part of Somalia whether they have federalism centralism autonomy they have been clear about their stance its consistent for 23 years , the pursuit of recognition will most likely continue till its achieved. Somaliland independence is sacred , for many walanweyns this is hard to grasp but this is very true.

Khalid your politicians royally screwed up when they decided to indoctrinate the populace with the idea of complete secession. Now you have no choice but to stay the course because the indoctrination has seeped deep into the populace, and any attempt at reforming ties with Somalia are doomed to fail.
You should have thought about the possibility of never gaining recognition before you decided to indoctrinate your people.

[Khalid Ali]

Let me tell you Somaliland will never ever be part of Somalia whether they have federalism centralism autonomy they have been clear about their stance its consistent for 23 years , the pursuit of recognition will most likely continue till its achieved. Somaliland independence is sacred , for many walanweyns this is hard to grasp but this is very true.

Khalid your politicians royally screwed up when they decided to indoctrinate the populace with the idea of complete secession. Now you have no choice but to stay the course because the indoctrination has seeped deep into the populace, and any attempt at reforming ties with Somalia are doomed to fail.
You should have thought about the possibility of never gaining recognition before you decided to indoctrinate your people.

This is the problem walanweyns make no one indoctrinate the people of SL the SNM were the closest Unionist , but the people in 1991 when victory came said no more walanweynism no more Somalia , the politicians would have loved a union an equal union , but the people were fed up with Somalia said fuck it we not gonna share a country with them.. I dont mind recognition staying away aslong as we control our land and there are no walanweyns in Somaliland and the people of Somaliland are happy recognition will eventually come , but it the freedom is already there for the people of Somaliland live and do what they like and are not part of Somalia and its mess , they are no longer part of Somalia and inshallah willl never bee.. Independence strugges are not easy look how south sudan struggled for 50 years or the eritreans or the Palestenians who have no land, atleast we have defacto and our people live in peace we are better than many recognized states

[GIJaamac]

These foreign living federalist fanatics don't understand or don't want to understand that the ordinary Somali back home (minus the few elites who want to feel like their in charge of their own country and their businessmen) don't want anything to do with this (clan) federalism that is being pushed inside their throats.

What i fear the most is that these suit wearing mafiosa foreign passport holders who keep ignoring this silent majority will face a day where they no longer will have the choice to do so and you can be sure neither will be the winners in the end but shabaab.

The thing is without Federalism How do You think Somaliland, Puntland would come back into the fold? You think they would accept Central Rule?

These jebertis

Dude Somaliland is gone, accept that. They ain't never coming back. They were useless to Somalia anyway. As for puntland, well they have to choose between secession or coming directly under Xamar. As centralism will be adopted by the majority citizens of Somalia, there will be no these autonomous stuff anymore. Same goes to your Gedo as well. You both are useless to Somalia by the way. I personally prefer you to secede.

[waraabe251]

Let me tell you Somaliland will never ever be part of Somalia whether they have federalism centralism autonomy they have been clear about their stance its consistent for 23 years , the pursuit of recognition will most likely continue till its achieved. Somaliland independence is sacred , for many walanweyns this is hard to grasp but this is very true.

Khalid your politicians royally screwed up when they decided to indoctrinate the populace with the idea of complete secession. Now you have no choice but to stay the course because the indoctrination has seeped deep into the populace, and any attempt at reforming ties with Somalia are doomed to fail.
You should have thought about the possibility of never gaining recognition before you decided to indoctrinate your people.

faroole still said he wants to seceded with sl, we made-up our minds but you haven't, once the president is darood you run to Mogadishu but once hawiye comes, you runaway

[thegoodshepherd]

faroole still said he wants to seceded with sl, we made-up our minds but you haven't, once the president is darood you run to Mogadishu but once hawiye comes, you runaway

That is very funny because Darood are so used to ruling from Xamar. We have never gone below PM. The lowest position Darood has ever held in Somalia is PM,while the highest postion idoor have ever attained is PM. All other tribes Dir, hawiye, Digil-mirifle, idoor have had times when they were neither PM nor president. Darood is the only clan in Somali history to be either PM or president in the past 54 years, non-stop.

[Bermooda]

Murax its called devolution my friend devolution i suggest you look up on it that's if you don't know how it works. Also why do you keep claiming majority want federalism did a referendum took place that i don't know off