Feminism in Islam

[EvolSyawla]

I believe the saying goes "behind every great man is an even greater woman." Lol so, no.

[jalaaludin5]

I believe the saying goes "behind every great man is an even greater woman." Lol so, no.

But what about bad men?
Hitler had a wife?
Obama has a wife.
netenyahu has a wife.

You want to share the glory of great men but distance yourself from the deeds of bad men?

[EvolSyawla]

Lol dont put words in my mouth. You brought up the quote, I merely corrected it my friend. I do not speak about sharing the glory with men at all but that women shouldn't be prevented from succeeding in life simply because we are women.

[ZubeirAwal]

It depends on what you define as success.

[jalaaludin5]

Lol dont put words in my mouth. You brought up the quote, I merely corrected it my friend. I do not speak about sharing the glory with men at all but that women shouldn't be prevented from succeeding in life simply because we are women.

And whos doing that?

There is no boogeyman in the closet.

No one is out to get you. look at you using a computer and speaking your mind so freely.

[EvolSyawla]

Lolll listen jalapeno, you are trolling now.

[jalaaludin5]

Ok am gone.

[YummyMummy]

Do you think it is feasible to be a righteous and pious woman and follow the sunna but still fight for our rights to be heard, seen and taken seriously when in the political/business battlefields? To insist that our witness counts as much as men and not half? We're taught as young girls our laughs or voices should not be heard before we are seen. If you are laughing in public old men stare and some have the audacity to say 'naaya afkaga sku qabo' ama 'naga amoos'.

Yes, you can be a righteous woman & fight for female rights in Islam. Case in point: the lovely niqaabi sister who fought off Mona Eltahawy. That's the point though, in Islam we have already bene given all our rights. It's a matter of us knowing them, demanding/fighting for them and utilizing them to the highest ability. Not many women, myself included if I were to admit, know our full rights in Islam. A few examples:

a) 2 women's witness statement = 1 man's. This is from the Raxma of Allah, to prevent people from throwing cheap shots to deny the sister's testimony. Hence 2 women are less vulnerable than 1. Not because she's forgetful, or exaggerates, or would lie.

b) women in Islam get 1/2 of the dhaxal that their brothers get. That's because you do NOT have to share your dhaxal, whereas your brothers are obligated to share theirs on you and their family. Whether they do it or not, iyaga iyo ilaahay ayay utahay, laakin they'll get questioned on that, and Allah has already prepared you for that eventuality with a plan B: your dhaxal!

c) women wearing niqaab & hijaab. Men are predators (hello brothers ). You don't throw a lamb into a predators den. Sex & sexual desires are to men what water & oxygen are to all of us. That's how they were created. And this is a man's world. Alxamdulillah we don't read minds because we'd be frightened of what men were thinking and we wouldn't leave our homes. Case in point: Jon Snow from Channel4 news saying "I have contemplated/imagined sex with every woman I ever saw in my life" (his mum excluded). And a whole roll of men were distancing themselves from him perhaps because he exposed their truth?
So a simple piece of cloth would do you more good (however annoying) and the men more harm than you could ever imagine.

Side point: I personally don't like Mona Eltahawy. My personal opinion is that the niqaab is the highest form of female piety & ciffa in Islam, in the footsteps of our mothers Aisha RA & Co., and I aspire to be like that one day in shaa Allah.

[Phinks]

Do you think it is feasible to be a righteous and pious woman and follow the sunna but still fight for our rights to be heard, seen and taken seriously when in the political/business battlefields? To insist that our witness counts as much as men and not half? We're taught as young girls our laughs or voices should not be heard before we are seen. If you are laughing in public old men stare and some have the audacity to say 'naaya afkaga sku qabo' ama 'naga amoos'.

Yes, you can be a righteous woman & fight for female rights in Islam. Case in point: the lovely niqaabi sister who fought off Mona Eltahawy. That's the point though, in Islam we have already bene given all our rights. It's a matter of us knowing them, demanding/fighting for them and utilizing them to the highest ability. Not many women, myself included if I were to admit, know our full rights in Islam. A few examples:

a) 2 women's witness statement = 1 man's. This is from the Raxma of Allah, to prevent people from throwing cheap shots to deny the sister's testimony. Hence 2 women are less vulnerable than 1. Not because she's forgetful, or exaggerates, or would lie.

b) women in Islam get 1/2 of the dhaxal that their brothers get. That's because you do NOT have to share your dhaxal, whereas your brothers are obligated to share theirs on you and their family. Whether they do it or not, iyaga iyo ilaahay ayay utahay, laakin they'll get questioned on that, and Allah has already prepared you for that eventuality with a plan B: your dhaxal!

c) women wearing niqaab & hijaab. Men are predators (hello brothers ). You don't throw a lamb into a predators den. Sex & sexual desires are to men what water & oxygen are to all of us. That's how they were created. And this is a man's world. Alxamdulillah we don't read minds because we'd be frightened of what men were thinking and we wouldn't leave our homes. Case in point: Jon Snow from Channel4 news saying "I have contemplated/imagined sex with every woman I ever saw in my life" (his mum excluded). And a whole roll of men were distancing themselves from him perhaps because he exposed their truth?
So a simple piece of cloth would do you more good (however annoying) and the men more harm than you could ever imagine.

Side point: I personally don't like Mona Eltahawy. My personal opinion is that the niqaab is the highest form of female piety & ciffa in Islam, in the footsteps of our mothers Aisha RA & Co., and I aspire to be like that one day in shaa Allah.

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As expected, YummyMummy smashes the ball out of the park with her witty humour and writing style which never fails to exude eloquence.

[YummyMummy]

^ Phinks



(I just realised Alice from Alice in Wonderland has fat calfs, yuck ... )

BTW Phinks I'm surprised you agree with me, especially point c. What happened to all your chest-bashing "men are superior to women" talk?

[Phinks]

^ Phinks



(I just realised Alice from Alice in Wonderland has fat calfs, yuck ... )

BTW Phinks I'm surprised you agree with me, especially point c. What happened to all your chest-bashing "men are superior to women" talk?

Well I was raised by a single mother and I am the eldest child so a lot of responsibility was placed on my shoulders to help around. Especially with protecting my younger siblings. So this might have contributed to my view on this lol. With that said, I believe that women deserve to have everything a man does such as power ie political positions, jobs, voting rights etc but we are not fundamentally the same. Men are far stronger than women and I believe Allah (swt) made it like this for a reason. Men and women compliment each other like the ying and the yang. One cannot be complete without the other and I know this might sound lame or dumb/stupid but I grew up feeling strongly that men should protect women.

I'll let my wifey do whatever she wants. Whether she wants to have a career or be a full-time mother to support our children, I'll support her 100%.

Although I'd prefer she be a mother as it's just so much better in the long term development of our children.

[YummyMummy]

Well I was raised by a single mother and I am the eldest child so a lot of responsibility was placed on my shoulders to help around. Especially with protecting my younger siblings. So this might have contributed to my view on this lol. With that said, I believe that women deserve to have everything a man does such as power ie political positions, jobs, voting rights etc but we are not fundamentally the same. Men are far stronger than women and I believe Allah (swt) made it like this for a reason. Men and women compliment each other like the ying and the yang. One cannot be complete without the other and I know this might sound lame or dumb/stupid but I grew up feeling strongly that men should protect women.

I'll let my wifey do whatever she wants. Whether she wants to have a career or be a full-time mother to support our children, I'll support her 100%.

Although I'd prefer she be a mother as it's just so much better in the long term development of our children.

Maa shaa Allah, your mum raised you well, ilaahay cimrigeeda ha dheereeyee, aamiin. Our viewpoints are not that much different if all you're saying is that men are physically superior to women (i.e. strength). And I agree with your preference, having been a full-time working mum, teaching other people's kids, I feel very guilty sometimes. Life is much easier if you're at home as a woman, with your kids. But sometimes that's not an option.

[ChiefKimbo]

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Islam is one part of the world where feminism is not allowed

[StormShadow]

Case in point: Jon Snow from Channel4 news saying "I have contemplated/imagined sex with every woman I ever saw in my life" (his mum excluded). And a whole roll of men were distancing themselves from him perhaps because he exposed their truth?

[Keyblade]

men, generally the more stupid, selfish and heartless sex

Chauvinist pig!

Considering all the great evil committed in this world was done by men, I stand by my statement.

Since women historically have never had the power or equal opportunity to commit all of those evils, statistically speaking who else would have committed them? Having your cake and eating it too, not bad